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'I don't think I can stay if Bush wins' - US Celebs.
National Post/The Daily Telegraph (Canada) ^ | 11/1/2004 | Catherine Elsworth

Posted on 11/01/2004 5:45:25 AM PST by SolutionsOnly

Some left-leaning Californians say they would rather leave the United States -- and go to Canada or elsewhere -- than stay with George W. Bush as president.

''I certainly don't love the climate of Vancouver, but I love the sanity,'' said Steve Crawford, 54, a singer and actor working as a volunteer at the Democratic Party offices in Santa Monica.

He and his wife, Karen, have been investigating selling their home in Pacific Palisades, an upmarket area close to the coast, and moving to Canada.

''For someone like me, if this happens, I can't in good conscience allow myself to support another Bush government, even benignly. And a lot of other people are saying the same.

''I have a good friend who is adamant he will leave if Bush is re-elected. He's picked two countries and will definitely go to one should this happen.''

In the heavily Democratic state, famous for its Hollywood- and San Francisco-inspired latte liberal politics, such talk has become increasingly common at Starbucks and at dinner parties.

At first, the threat was little more than a joke. Now, on the eve of one of the most polarized elections in recent history, some say they really do intend to leave should ''the worst'' occur.

There seems little doubt Californians will deliver the state's valuable 55 electoral votes to the Democratic candidate. In a poll on Friday, Mr. Kerry had a seven-point lead statewide, with a 24-point lead in Los Angeles county and a 35-point lead in the San Francisco Bay area.

But fear at what may happen in the key swing states of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania has led to an escalation in coffee-shop chatter about emigration to Canada, Britain and elsewhere.

''Do you think Great Britain would give us political asylum?'' a woman in Starbucks asked. ''It's just ... I don't think I can stay if Bush wins again.''

Mr. Crawford said it would be a difficult decision to move his nine-year-old son from his elementary school. ''But if I feel he's going to be living in an environment that's not safe for him, then I will do it. First and foremost I'm a dad.''

Gretchen Witte, 35, from Alhambra, east of Los Angeles, who runs her own Internet business, is making plans to move to London, where she previously lived for eight years, should Mr. Bush win.

''As a woman, the current climate is becoming intolerable. Bush has just appointed a man to the FDA reproductive health panel who believes that women with medical trouble should pray to Jesus for relief. If this is what America is becoming, I cannot live here. The only reason I can sleep at night is the thought that I can leave the country if he wins.''

Robert Boleyn, a 35-year-old independent consultant from Los Angeles, says he hears people ''all the time' 'saying they will emigrate if Mr. Bush wins.

''But I think it's often more a measure of frustration with the last four years than a real intention to leave,'' he added.

Voluntary exile as a political statement is nothing new. Democrat-supporting celebrities have a habit of making (usually empty) threats to leave should the election not go their way. Robert Redford, a vocal critic of Mr. Bush's policies, was reported this month to have vowed to move to Ireland, where he owns homes near Dublin, if Mr. Bush is re-elected. Before the 2000 poll, Alec Baldwin's then wife, Kim Basinger, told Germany's Focus magazine the actor ''might leave the country if Bush is elected ... and then I'd probably have to go, too.'' Mr. Baldwin did not leave.

The only public figure to carry out his promise was Pierre Salinger, the White House press secretary during the Kennedy administration, who died last month. Before the 2000 election, he said: ''If Bush wins, I'm going to leave the country and spend the rest of my life in France.'' He did.


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; hollyweird; jgarofalotheflag; liberals; radicalleftists; rats; socialists
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To: SolutionsOnly

Folks, I know many of you aren't at all comfortable with vulgarity or "sex" on screen, but I nevertheless HIGHLY recommend "TEAM AMERICA." If you want to see the Hollywood elites "dissed" like never before, and CLEARLY EQUATED with our enemies, see this movie.


121 posted on 11/01/2004 7:16:19 AM PST by LS
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To: SolutionsOnly

OOOOOOOkay!

Now where have I heard this before???


122 posted on 11/01/2004 7:16:28 AM PST by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: eyespysomething

If these celebs leave and make a movie it will be ... not well attended.


123 posted on 11/01/2004 7:20:06 AM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
"Celebs?"

To who?

Who the heck ARE these people!?

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

124 posted on 11/01/2004 7:21:11 AM PST by mhking
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To: SittinYonder

lol, like now?

Isn't ol' Afflict in some current movie?


125 posted on 11/01/2004 7:24:36 AM PST by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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To: Dawgreg
Talk about vanity. They think their threatened absence could affect other's vote. "G_d, if Dave MAthews and Barbara Streisand leave this country we'll never see them again. Oh, MY!(gasp)" Look, after four years Whoopee Goldberg and Alex Baldwin are still here. They are not going off to another country to be unemployed.
126 posted on 11/01/2004 7:28:09 AM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: SolutionsOnly

Not ONE of these a$$holes will EVER leave. They are parasites on this country and it's freedoms. Bi*ch, moan and complain but never, ever leave.

What a buncha flakey fakes.

Prairie


127 posted on 11/01/2004 7:28:24 AM PST by prairiebreeze (It's an honor to recognize those who've served in the United States military. We are grateful.)
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To: SolutionsOnly
Those leftists and socialists that find it "terrible" living in a free market society like America... governed by a leader like George Bush... are wise to find other countries in the world in which to live.

They will never really be happy in America until America is as socialist as the most leftist countries that they so readily admire for their imposition of this ideology on their citizens...

What doesn't make sense however is why history continues to show us that the line at the door to enter America's free market society which is often comprised of those who want to leave such socialist countries has always been so much longer than the line at the door to leave America and go the world's most socialistic (and communist) countries...

How nice for people who will be leaving us when Mr. Bush is reelected, that they won't have to stand in long line at the door to exit America...
128 posted on 11/01/2004 7:34:43 AM PST by SterlingSilver (If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... its a duck.)
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To: SolutionsOnly; All
Would some brilliant Photoshop wiz whip up "Come to Fallujah" brochure. Mailing list on this thread.
129 posted on 11/01/2004 7:35:19 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: SolutionsOnly

"Vote for me. I need those who are the "Heart and Soul of America" to stand by me. You can grab your crotches, have more wardrobe malfunctions, and curse as much as you want. The Lord knows, my wife and I do it all the time. So tell the Republicans to "Shove it" and stay with me."

/sarcasm off

130 posted on 11/01/2004 7:37:55 AM PST by sr4402
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To: SolutionsOnly

Since they put this in print...isn't there some way we can call it a legal binding contract and sue them if they don't follow through? LOL


131 posted on 11/01/2004 7:51:38 AM PST by trussell (Unemployed intellectual...will act like a pompous ass for food!!)
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To: oyez

oyez, I don't know what kind of effect their rantings and ravings have on the movie industry(hope it's negative), but more than one singer has been told to "shut up and sing". If we want any opinions, we'll ask for them. In the meantime we'll all just do the best that we can and do what's right.


132 posted on 11/01/2004 7:58:54 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: SolutionsOnly

Move!!!


133 posted on 11/01/2004 7:59:28 AM PST by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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To: prairiebreeze

Don't forget it's the public who pay their salaries and it's the public who can make em' or break em'.


134 posted on 11/01/2004 8:00:59 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: SolutionsOnly
I'll believe those lying, commie sympathizers when I have it in writing!
135 posted on 11/01/2004 8:01:26 AM PST by airborne (God answers all prayers. Sometimes the answer is ,"No".)
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To: SolutionsOnly

Bye!

And don't let the screen door smack-ya on the way out.


136 posted on 11/01/2004 8:02:20 AM PST by najida (Is it November 3rd yet?)
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To: SolutionsOnly
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE follow through your promises:

AND GO TO HELL!

137 posted on 11/01/2004 8:05:03 AM PST by crushelits
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To: SolutionsOnly
''Do you think Great Britain would give us political asylum?'' a woman in Starbucks asked. ''It's just ... I don't think I can stay if Bush wins again.''

Hysterical...they also supported the Iraq war...what a maroon...

138 posted on 11/01/2004 8:05:21 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

1600 people died in Montreal's hospitals in 2003 due to dirty conditions which created fatal infections. Mark Steyn (conservative writer) living in NH but a Canuck blasted Kerry on Canada's health care. Steyn is outstanding.

BTW - Canadians want drug exports to stop because they are subsidizing the cheap canuck drugs for US taxpayers.


139 posted on 11/01/2004 8:07:48 AM PST by FrankRepublican (DO NOT Believe that Gallup "early voter" poll in FL it is bullcrap)
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