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Last ditch appeal to Libertarians and Constitution voters:
11/1/2004 | agitate

Posted on 11/01/2004 6:34:54 AM PST by Agitate

Is your protest vote worth 4 years of John Kerry? Are you willing to risk appeasing terrorists, sellout to the UN and the EU, more taxes, less for the military, homosexual marriage and activist judges who will be there long after the president is gone, your for vote today?

Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the final war. Is a vote for a candidate who will not win worth 4 years of Kerry’s extreme liberalism? I hope not.




TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
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This is an appeal for Bush and the future of this land, not a flame, because I am seriously worried about America if Kerry is elected. I believe keeping him out is worth a compromise.
1 posted on 11/01/2004 6:34:54 AM PST by Agitate
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To: Agitate

This former Buchanan voter is solidly behind Bush this time around.


2 posted on 11/01/2004 6:36:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: Agitate

My guess would be that Libertarians are in favor of homo "marriage". That is the position of most libertarians I know.


3 posted on 11/01/2004 6:37:11 AM PST by Reaganez
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you much! We need every last vote -- must say as mad as I can get at Pat Buchanan at times, he gets it too!


4 posted on 11/01/2004 6:37:32 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: Agitate

We can't have the perfect choice, but we have a RESPONSIBILITY to ourselves and the country to pick the best viable choice, IMHO.

Electing John Kerry would be a disaster, in so many ways. I have a lot of respect for the many of the principles of the parties you mentioned. But I think we all have to be realistic. Good post!


5 posted on 11/01/2004 6:38:13 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: cripplecreek

This fromer Bush voter drew the line with "Free" Prescription Drugs and Amnesty.


6 posted on 11/01/2004 6:38:14 AM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: Agitate

Post that at LibertyPost.


7 posted on 11/01/2004 6:38:14 AM PST by Nataku X (Get Informed of the Polls: http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=4176)
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To: Agitate

I never did understand why someone would only vote for a candidate if they agreed with the candidate 100% of the time. Heck, I don't agree with my hubby 100% of the time and I married him. Oh well, I guess common sense in this day and age has "gone to hell in a handbasket" as my sainted grandmother used to say.


8 posted on 11/01/2004 6:39:03 AM PST by abnegation (John Kerry makes any sane person ill.)
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To: Agitate
Rational third-party voters in battleground states will undoubtedly vote for Bush. The irrational ones won't, but their numbers are small.

I think you'll find this to be the case tomorrow night. The third parties will do better in states where the outcome is already known.

9 posted on 11/01/2004 6:39:41 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: rmmcdaniell

Can we hunt you down if Kerry is elected?


(I'm kidding)


10 posted on 11/01/2004 6:39:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: rmmcdaniell

Bush promised neither.


11 posted on 11/01/2004 6:41:24 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: abnegation

A wise old timer taught me a simple rule of thumb.

If your candidate agrees with you 100% of the time one of you is lying.


12 posted on 11/01/2004 6:41:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: rmmcdaniell; MeekOneGOP; Old Sarge
This fromer Bush voter drew the line with "Free" Prescription Drugs and Amnesty. [sic]

*grumble* Apparently it's Liberaltarian day on FR...

13 posted on 11/01/2004 6:42:38 AM PST by TBarnett34 (Can I get an UNNNGH?!)
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To: rmmcdaniell

OK, enjoy your country wherein you're jailed for "hate speech" for speaking out against anything protected by PC forces.


14 posted on 11/01/2004 6:42:39 AM PST by Nataku X (Get Informed of the Polls: http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=4176)
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To: cvq3842
We can't have the perfect choice, but we have a RESPONSIBILITY to ourselves and the country to pick the best viable choice, IMHO.

Exactly what I was trying to express, and so right. I hope people realize what is at stake. I respect the right to vote as one chooses, but this is an EMERGENCY.
15 posted on 11/01/2004 6:43:52 AM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: Agitate
I've never understood protest votes. Picking the best electable candidate versus the perfect non-electable candidate gives you some voice and evolutionary change.

All or nothing, is the equivalent of taking your ball and going home. In Italy there are hundreds of parties and everyone can vote for just what they want, but then a ruling coalition must be formed and that parties 3 votes are squelched anyway. In our system, it is up to the voter to decide on his/her own coalition.

A Republican has to win to do anything, and the inconvenient fact is, that mean appealing to more than 50% of the voters. You might be right, 100% right, but unless you can bring 49% with you, get over yourselves and vote for what's best for this country.

Nuff said.
16 posted on 11/01/2004 6:44:52 AM PST by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: rmmcdaniell
This fromer Bush voter drew the line with "Free" Prescription Drugs and Amnesty.

I hated the amnesty thing too. But what do you think Kerry will do? Protect our borders? Is anything worth having Kerry in office? The man is dangerous.
17 posted on 11/01/2004 6:45:57 AM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: Agitate

BS...WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP

There at least 1000 conservative voters who don't vote at all FOR EACH Libertarian or Constitutional VOTER...If Bush can't get reelected it won't be because Libertarians voted Libertarian....

IT WILL BE BECAUSE BUSH VOTERS DIDN'T GOTV or make a persuasive enough argument!

Give me a frigging break....Vote your heart and mind, and if that is Libertarian because your in favor of legalized drugs and gays....go for it

18 posted on 11/01/2004 6:46:07 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: rmmcdaniell; TBarnett34; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...
To ALL Freepers and Lurker voters:

GO to the polls and vote for Bush. Take your friends with you to do the same. If you know any Zell Miller type Democrats that support Bush and they are voting for him, take them as well.

Vote EARLY to avoid the rush, and remember:

IGNORE ANYTHING IN THE MEDIA YOU HEAR (i.e., making a fast, early call in Florida for Kerry, etc.). WE CAN AVOID A REPEAT OF THE FLORIDA ELECTION DEBACLE OF 2000 THIS YEAR IF GOP TURNOUT IS STRONG, imho.


[Expletive deleted] !!!




19 posted on 11/01/2004 6:47:17 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Reaganez
My guess would be that Libertarians are in favor of homo "marriage". That is the position of most libertarians I know.

The true colors of the anti freedom people show themselves every time. I'm sure the author of this thread appreciates your attack on the people he is trying to convince to the Republican side.

No deep thinking in your comments.

20 posted on 11/01/2004 6:47:38 AM PST by Protagoras (The words pet peeve are my pet peeve)
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To: Agitate

The only candidate that a person agrees with 100% on the issues is themselves.

The only candidate who can win tomorrow are Bush or Kerry.!

Volunteer as a poll watcher tomorrow (especially in swing states ... OH, PA, NJ, etc). Don't let Kerry steal the election.

Tomorrow's election: SHOCK AND AWE.!


21 posted on 11/01/2004 6:48:02 AM PST by bluebeak (PA)
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To: antaresequity
There at least 1000 conservative voters who don't vote at all FOR EACH Libertarian or Constitutional VOTER...If Bush can't get reelected it won't be because Libertarians voted Libertarian....

You're wrong. Remember the margins by which New Mexico and Florida were decided in 2000?

Every single vote is important in this race. If you honestly think taking the risk of putting Lurch in office is worth voting your "conscience" then you've quite honestly lost your mind.

22 posted on 11/01/2004 6:49:00 AM PST by TBarnett34 (Can I get an UNNNGH?!)
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To: Agitate

Flame suit on and ready.

That's what we were told 4 years ago. I am tired of the RNC moving more and more to the left each election. I will vote for Bush but not because he is conservative. I just don't want Kerry and the liberal media to win.

It would be helpful if someone could list all of the conservative things Bush has done the last 4 years compared with all of the centrist positions. I don't want to see statements he made, but actual policies (and don't include the WOT, we already know about that).


23 posted on 11/01/2004 6:49:31 AM PST by okkev68
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To: TBarnett34
Apparently it's Liberaltarian day on FR...

The true colors of the anti freedom people show themselves every time. I'm sure the author of this thread appreciates your attack on the people he is trying to convince to the Republican side.

No deep thinking in your comments.

25 posted on 11/01/2004 6:50:10 AM PST by Protagoras (The words pet peeve are my pet peeve)
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To: antaresequity
BS...WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP There at least 1000 conservative voters who don't vote at all FOR EACH Libertarian or Constitutional VOTER...If Bush can't get reelected it won't be because Libertarians voted Libertarian.... IT WILL BE BECAUSE BUSH VOTERS DIDN'T GOTV or make a persuasive enough argument! Give me a frigging break....Vote your heart and mind, and if that is Libertarian because your in favor of legalized drugs and gays....go for it

Sorry you feel that way, but you're wrong. If this election is as close as they say, obviously every vote will count, libertarian and all.

We'll have more than a bunch of crap if Kerry is in office. Following your heart and not logic could put us under the likes of Kofi Anon and friends, and an emotional vote is not worth that risk, period.

I'm off now to work for the President's re-election.

26 posted on 11/01/2004 6:50:30 AM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: rmmcdaniell
So you're taking your ball and going home. Not a viable game plan for winning the game. No doubt you will taunt your own team when the opposition wins that they shouldn't have made you mad.

Take a breath and seriously consider whether your personal vanity is worth the consequences. I understand your frustration, I really do, but I beseech you to take one for the team. You'll get a lot more of what you are after debating with me than with President Kerry.
27 posted on 11/01/2004 6:51:23 AM PST by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: cvq3842
We can't have the perfect choice, but we have a RESPONSIBILITY to ourselves and the country to pick the best viable choice, IMHO.

Every time? Or THIS time?

28 posted on 11/01/2004 6:51:26 AM PST by Protagoras (The words pet peeve are my pet peeve)
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To: TBarnett34

I am voting Bush my friend...

But your simple analysis of NM for instance is flawed...the fact Bush lost NM isnt because some 200 odd voters voted Libertarian or what not...

ITS BECAUSE BUSH DIDNT GET ANOTHER 300 VOTERS TO THE POLLS

Its that simple


29 posted on 11/01/2004 6:51:47 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: Agitate

I'm libertarian, but I think the libertarian party is morally bankrupt! They're pro-baby-murder and pro-gay and pro-druggie! ICK!


31 posted on 11/01/2004 6:53:24 AM PST by Darth Gill
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To: MeekOneGOP

Will do!


32 posted on 11/01/2004 6:53:42 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance, bigotry, envy, and gluttony are a few floor joists in the democratic platform.)
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To: Protagoras
The true colors of the anti freedom people show themselves every time. I'm sure the author of this thread appreciates your attack on the people he is trying to convince to the Republican side. No deep thinking in your comments.

You assume too much. If you thought a bit deeper you would not assume that 1) I am a male, I'm not, and 2) that all who disagree with you are "anti-freedom." If you can't understand the risk Kerry poses to this land, I am very sorry.
33 posted on 11/01/2004 6:54:08 AM PST by Agitate (littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog -Jihadwatch.org -Protestwarrior.com -Congress.org -ACLJ.org)
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To: Protagoras
No deep thinking in your comments.

I'm sick of the trolls, and I don't care whether they're Democrats or "Libertarians." For the sake of the next four years, a vote against Bush is a vote against conservatism.

Keep in mind the small margins by which Bush won Floriduh and Gore won New Mexico in 2000. What if those 500+ voters in Florida had voted for Browne? What if the 300+ votes in New Mexico that made the difference in that state had been cast for Buchanan?

Contrary to your opinion, I'm not 'attacking' freedom. I'm attempting to preserve it by keeping John F'n Kerry out of the Oval Office. The action of casting a vote against Bush, whether it's for Kerry, Peroutka, or Badnarik, is the true attack on freedom in this election.

34 posted on 11/01/2004 6:54:32 AM PST by TBarnett34 (Can I get an UNNNGH?!)
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To: Agitate

Voting Constitution may make a person feel better, but in the end it is a vote for the very opposite, John Kerry.

We don't life in a country with a parliamentarian form of government. If we did, the Constitution Party could have delegates elected which would align with other parties to form a majority. As it is, the Constitution Party comprises only protest votes, and no one will be listening, no pro-life Supreme Court justice will be nominated, and no pro-abortion laws will be stopped. One had might as well spit against the wind.

The Republican Party is the place for pro-lifers and those who believe in personal responsibility. The GOP comprises different groups allied against the entitlement party of the left. It is the only place, at the time, for those who treasure the Judeo-Christian values of our founding.


35 posted on 11/01/2004 6:55:57 AM PST by Broadus (The chief end of man is to glority God and enjoy Him forever.)
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To: TonyRo76

Oh I get it...because someone doesn't toe your line, they are immature and need to GROW UP!

How persuasive...congratulations on your depth and breadth of articulating the argument....and for the last time...

I have always voted republican [since Reagan's first term], and will always vote republican


36 posted on 11/01/2004 6:55:58 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: antaresequity
But your simple analysis of NM for instance is flawed...the fact Bush lost NM isnt because some 200 odd voters voted Libertarian or what not...

Naturally, I'm speculating.

But what you need to realize with this comment...

ITS BECAUSE BUSH DIDNT GET ANOTHER 300 VOTERS TO THE POLLS

...is that you are, also.

I prefer to leave no margin for error. Not only do we need to turn out every possible Bush voter, but we also need to convert those who think they're "taking a stand for conservatism" by voting against the only viable conservative candidate.

37 posted on 11/01/2004 6:56:12 AM PST by TBarnett34 (Can I get an UNNNGH?!)
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To: rmmcdaniell
This fromer Bush voter drew the line with "Free" Prescription Drugs and Amnesty.

So, let me see if I understand - you'd rather have sKerry and universal health care where EVERYTHING is "free" - except it'll be paid for out of your pocket - prices up, quality down?

("fromer"?)

38 posted on 11/01/2004 6:57:12 AM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: cripplecreek

I sent a letter last night to the person in MI who also has been involved with both parties over the years asking for a voice of sanity to his long list of followers. He complied an wrote a letter and endorsed George W. Bush and sent it to his followers. I am at work now so I don't have a copy of his letter but it was pretty well thought out.


39 posted on 11/01/2004 6:57:25 AM PST by kempster
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To: rmmcdaniell

so you prefer socialized medicine and full control of the medical industry by the goverment?


40 posted on 11/01/2004 6:59:12 AM PST by gdc61
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To: rmmcdaniell
so you prefer socialized medicine and full control of the medical industry by the government?
41 posted on 11/01/2004 7:00:12 AM PST by gdc61
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To: MeekOneGOP; All
Vote EARLY to avoid the rush, and remember: IGNORE ANYTHING IN THE MEDIA YOU HEAR (i.e., making a fast, early call in Florida for Kerry, etc.). WE CAN AVOID A REPEAT OF THE FLORIDA ELECTION DEBACLE OF 2000 THIS YEAR IF GOP TURNOUT IS STRONG, imho.

BEAUTIFUL advice, meek! we need to vote EARLY, so the exit polling/numbers will demoralize, and surpress the rat turnout!!!

42 posted on 11/01/2004 7:00:59 AM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Broadus
Voting Constitution may make a person feel better, but in the end it is a vote for the very opposite, John Kerry.

NO IT IS NOT...It is a vote for whoever they vote for...

Further and statistically speaking it represents only a half of a vote for the other side, assuming it is a vote for the other side at all.

If the vote is tied and and a voter defects to the libertarian party...then the tie is broken by only 1 vote.

If the voter indeed 'votes for the other side', then the tie is broken by 2.

200 - 200 --> 200 - 199 = delta 1
200 - 200 --> 201 - 199 = delta 2

Its all semantic nonsense...a vote for a third candidate is not a vote for the otherside...its a vote for a third candidate

43 posted on 11/01/2004 7:02:15 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: TBarnett34

fair enough


44 posted on 11/01/2004 7:02:48 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: rmmcdaniell

45 posted on 11/01/2004 7:04:30 AM PST by wolicy_ponk (Kerry, follow me no closer than 1000 yards, or I'll teach you what a real purple heart is. -T.Peck)
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To: tame
I hear that they are expecting cold weather and snow (??) in
Wisconsin and Michigan. The 'RATS should stay at home by
their warm fireplaces tomorrow. :^D

46 posted on 11/01/2004 7:04:37 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Agitate

I voted for Browne in 2000 and 1996, Andre Marrou in 1992, and Mike Dukakis in 1988.

Tomorrow, I will proudly punch my ballot for George W. Bush.

The Supreme Court, our security, and our economic future are too important to entrust to "None of the Above", which is a default vote for Kerry.

Bush has flaws, but this is not the time to obsess about them. The alternative is far worse.


47 posted on 11/01/2004 7:05:03 AM PST by oblomov
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To: rmmcdaniell
This fromer Bush voter drew the line with "Free" Prescription Drugs and Amnesty.

Some of us will remember......

48 posted on 11/01/2004 7:05:16 AM PST by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: gdc61

Moot point. Republican house and republican senate means even if Kerry gets elected any "universal" healthcare proposal will fail, and badly at that.


49 posted on 11/01/2004 7:05:50 AM PST by NYorkerInHouston
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To: cripplecreek
This LIBERTARIAN voed on Saturday. I stood in line over four hours to do so, and it was a fine...fine fall day out. I voted Bush, and every Republican that I saw on the Ballot.
50 posted on 11/01/2004 7:06:04 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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