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The Best Among Us, Remembering Space Shuttle Columbia
NASA Web Site ^ | 2/1/04 | NASA

Posted on 11/01/2004 1:01:30 PM PST by Paul Ross

For those who have the time to quietly reflect, as we choose for our nation our leadership, I humbly submit that there is little better "signal" of character than this solemn memorial to fallen heroes...



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: astronauts; columbia; memorial; nasa; shuttle; space; sts107; tribute
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To: Paul Ross

Great link. They are heroes!


41 posted on 11/01/2004 5:31:40 PM PST by Samwise (W4)
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To: Old Professer
They are not heroes, they are victims.

Wrong.

Many think that the Space Shuttle was some routine ride into space. It never was. Every launch and flight was a MAJOR risk where uncountable things could go wrong. It was never routine. What they did was extremely risky, they were truly hero's first, and victims second.

42 posted on 11/01/2004 5:35:46 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Old Professer
They are not heroes, they are victims.

If there are heroes anymore, these are.

43 posted on 11/01/2004 5:40:22 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: dep
there's not one among them who would have gotten aboard

Yes, they did now and they went anyway. There are a million more who would do the same thing. Ten million.

44 posted on 11/01/2004 5:41:46 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Prime Choice

thanks you for that post....as i was reading the posts, my first thought was "and slipped the surly bonds of earth, to touch the face of God." Contrary to what an earlier post said about them not being heroes but victims, all of these wonderful people ARE heroes - they have visited the new frontier looking for more than we have here on Earth. May God bless all of these true American Heroes. They truly did touch the face of God.


45 posted on 11/01/2004 5:44:37 PM PST by BamaDi
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To: dep
with all due respect to those aboard columbia, and those aboard challenger, too, there's not one among them who would have gotten aboard if they had the slightest inkling that the shuttle was as unreliable and dangerous as it not only was but was known to be.

This was not a mass produced flying Honda car where millions were made. A proven product so to speak.

Every launch, every flight was a big time risk to anyone on board. Shuttle flights were never routine no matter what the media may say. They all knew this going in.

Many of them don't go into prayer service before launch for nothing. They were hero's.

46 posted on 11/01/2004 5:47:13 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: RadioAstronomer; kattracks; Victoria Delsoul; buffyt

Ping.


47 posted on 11/02/2004 5:54:49 AM PST by Paul Ross (Deploy Real Missile Defense NOW. Iran will have nukes in 4 months.)
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To: Ravenstar
With all due respect, I work at Kennedy Space Center.

I worked at SAEF-II and the VPF. :-)

48 posted on 11/02/2004 6:13:11 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: dep
there's not one among them who would have gotten aboard if they had the slightest inkling that the shuttle was as unreliable and dangerous as it not only was but was known to be.

Codswallop! I would have been first in line!

49 posted on 11/02/2004 6:14:29 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Old Professer
they are victims.

No. They were pioneers venturing into a "new land". Were the people who died along the western wagon routes victims as well?

Should we still be living in caves?

50 posted on 11/02/2004 6:19:14 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Samwise; chimera; Physicist; Starwind; Light Speed; F14 Pilot; F16Fighter; Travis McGee
Heroes, all. Can there be any doubt?


51 posted on 11/02/2004 12:21:01 PM PST by Paul Ross (Deploy Real Missile Defense NOW. Iran will have nukes in 4 months.)
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To: BoBToMatoE
every single one of them knew the risks. When you are riding a controlled explosion into space, not matter how "safe" we make it look, it still stares death in the face.

Indeed, they did. There were studies that all the astronauts were aware of, that calculated the odds of catastrophic failure...indeed using catrastrophe theory and failure analysis of "criticality one" malfunctions...that show actually we have been beating the odds. These were heroes to take the gamble, and ride on what is still, at bottom, a continuing "X" prototype that continues to be modified and evolve.

The fixes we are now doing give us some over-due options. It would truly be best to now move on past the 1970's era design and get an all-new manned lift approach, or at least replace the 70's design with an escape module version. But negligence on the part of a fiscally-tight-fisted Congress...with social spenders constantly carping for more welfare, and less space exploration...does not take one iota away from the courage of these brave astronauts.


52 posted on 11/02/2004 12:32:29 PM PST by Paul Ross (Deploy Real Missile Defense NOW. Iran will have nukes in 4 months.)
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To: Paul Ross

I know this is an old thread,but I was just looking at things and I just wanted to say I really like that picture!


53 posted on 04/23/2005 4:46:33 PM PDT by prisoner6sson (Just another defender of Independence)
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