Patriot Paradox
Posted on 11/01/2004 10:31:12 PM PST by InfantryMarine
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I just received a phone call from local B/C-04 Team Leader advising that ALL Poll Monitors WILL be allowed as per OHIO SUPREME COURT RULING W/in past hour or so reversing today's previous ruling.
REPORT FOR DUTY!!!!
PLEASE SPREAD THIS TO YOU LISTS FAR AND WIDE!
YESS!!! One man, one vote...
When the 6th circuit calls in, let us know.
i love the 6th circuit
and yes I know I forgot the bloody ping list. Its 1:30 in the morning!
WHAT Ohio court did this? Is the Supreme not the highest of OH? (I know in some states they don't call the highest court the Supreme)
What?? You mean they decided to abide by the law. I am disappointed in the democrats </sarcasm>
Just heard it on a FOX news break segment.....caught it about at the end...but the newsperson did say ( if i heard correctly)
something about a "stay" and an appeal to the US supreme court.
Good Marine, now kick ass and take names!
Forgive me if this is dumb, but will your job this AM primarily be objecting when a potential voter doesn't have adequate identification?
On MSNBC they were talking about all the Fraud that could take place without these poll watchers
The Dem talking heads with a straight face acted SHOCKED about it and couldn't understand why people think it's the Dems that commit the fraud
Cue Basil Poledouris's theme from Conan the Barbarian!
God bless you all for fighting for our country at the polling places tomorrow. Truly, a defeat for the President is a victory for terrorists all over the world who will trumpet his repudiation by the US voter. We cannot allow fraudulent voting to win the victory for our enemies. So thank you all very much, all of you volunteer poll workers in the contested states. May you be wise, alert, and courageous in stemming the tide of corruption that would steal this election from Pres. Bush by the traitors of this country.
Ditto
Hell yeah!
Thanks.
What are the odds that this will stand or does a Federal court have to weigh in?
It was wrong before. That was a different ruling by the state supreme court that was about something else. We all got confused including FOX news.
This is the real thing. This ruling says:
CHEATERS BEWARE!
Just the idea of someone watching the poll stops vote fraud in its tracks. St. Louis had the problem in 2000, and when the FBI was sent in 2002 to watch the polls, the problem mysteriously disappeared. Knowing you're being watched makes legitimate voters feel empowered and scares those who don't want to get caught cheating.
I'm willing to let it slide if it means that some people who missed it can sleep easier tonight or others can understand their duties better tomorrow morning.
Semper Fi!
The voter votes always! But the ballot if challenged goes into the challenged ballot box.
This is how it works in Arkansas.
Nov 2, 1:18 AM EST
AP News Alert
CINCINNATI (AP) -- The Ohio attorney general's office and lawyers involved with the case say a federal appeals court has cleared the way for challengers to be present at polling places in Ohio.
Sorry, I'm still confused.
Has a court above the State Supreme court ruled or not?
Is it likely one will have to rule?
Are we 1 step or 2 steps away from the US Supreme court?
What is likely in this situation in your guesstimation?
To this post: AP quote Ping.
I don't know, it may be a media mistake.
The State is responsible for this, unless they violate fed law.
So, it is evidently settled for tomorrow's duration, then?
Thanks much for your patience.
Note what it says under the Court of Appeals:
There are 12 of these courts. Each state and U.S. District Court is in one of the 12 circuits. Each court reviews cases from the U. S. District Courts in its Circuit. Appeals go to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Looks like the state supremes reversed their earlier non-ruling ruling to me. All is well, I think?????LOL!
I dunno?
I was asleep and they woke me up!!!
Glad SOMEBODY is standing the 'mid-watch' on the perimeter and 'on guard for the enemy' at the Ohio BC-04 HQ!
Night all!!!
Looooong day, on the dawn!
Never though I'd ever WANT to kiss a lawyer till now!
FEMALES ONLY NEED APPLY!
I like to think I've understood that for several decades.
1) Is there grounds for a circuit court to take the case?
2) Is it likely to be pushed that far?
3) Are the GOP folks giving the issue enough flack that there will be less motivation to take it to the circuit court and then to the US SUPREME COURT?
Still puzzled.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/state/ohio/2004-11-02-ohio-challengers_x.htm
..."A three-judge panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 to grant emergency stays of two federal judges' orders Monday that barred political parties' voter challengers in Ohio. The judges also consolidated the two cases."...
..."The judges also said that smooth and effective administration of the voting laws means that the rules can't be changed in the hours immediately preceding the election."...
Thanks.
Great to read.
Appreciate your kindnesses.
Heading to bed.
Good news.
Federal court clears the way for GOP representatives to challenge voters' eligibility in Ohio
Brief update from the trenches October 31, 2004 (11:12 PM)
http://www.brainshavings.com/mt/archives/001402.html
Today I attended a three-hour training session for Republican election observers in NE Ohio. We hailed from Cuyahoga, Lorain, and Erie Counties (see map), and this was just one of three training sessions taking place today in NE Ohio alone. Although I won't reveal any strategy or data that Democrats might find useful, I do have some interesting tidbits to share.
Pay close attention to news about Ohio's new provisional ballots. Remember the dance of the hanging chads? To win Ohio without a court fight, President Bush must take this state by a wide enough margin to make all provisional ballots irrelevant.
The GOP expected no more than 300 volunteers at today's poll observer training session in Westlake. Over 400 of us showed up, reportedly blowing away the attendance figures at a corresponding statewide Democrat confab hyped as a demonstration of their grassroots support. Keep in mind that there were two other GOP sessions in progress simultaneously, and you'll begin to get a sense of the scale of our motivation.
We 400 observers are mostly average citizens getting involved in a campaign for the very first time. I saw plenty of retirees, college kids, housewives, small business owners, and accomplished professionals. Very few were experienced political operatives. All of us are taking Tuesday off to keep watch over the electoral process. We're well-trained, we're on rock-solid legal ground, and we're motivated. Dear left-leaning friends: you'd be wise not to try any funny business. We won't interfere in the election, but we'll sure as hell catch you if you do. We know how to spot every trick in your playbook. You've gone a bridge too far, and managed to fire up more of the Republican base than in your worst nightmares.
Ohio law has permitted poll observers for something like 70+ years, but we've never used them and never challenged a vote ... until the left forced us to react to their blatant intent to win at any cost. Feel free to thank ACORN, the NAACP National Voter Fund, MoveOn.org, America Coming Together, The Media Fund, George Soros, Peter B. Lewis, Senator John McCain, Senator Russ Feingold ...
There are 78,000 GOP volunteers hard at work in Ohio. Young Republicans from out of state are knocking on doors (including mine, which is how I know) to get out the vote, and total political neophytes are burning up the outgoing phone lines at jam-packed local Bush/Cheney headquarters.
Democrats have filed lawsuits seeking to forbid more than one GOP observer per polling place. This is significant because many polling places contain voting facilities for multiple precincts. If the Democrat lawsuits succeed (as of 5 PM today the outcome was still up in the air), you'll see polling places where a single overworked GOP observer tries to keep an eye on several precincts at once. That'll be a situation ripe for exploitation by fraudsters.
At least one person tried to infiltrate today's training session in Westlake by posing as a Republican who dropped in at the last minute to volunteer. His name wasn't on the list and he couldn't identify any references. He threatened to volunteer at the Kucinich call center unless we let him in. Odd threat for a "Republican", eh? He left unhappy.
Infiltrating a political campaign carries stiff criminal penalties in Ohio. Mr. I-Love-Dennis-Kucinich ought to thank us for saving him from spending Christmas in the pokey.
Watch the Ohio poll results for a last-minute Democrat surge. Conservative SW Ohio and moderate Central Ohio report their results promptly, but heavily Democratic Cleveland always reports its results late in the evening and can tip the balance for the whole state. I'll leave you to speculate about the reasons for foot-dragging by NE Ohio Democrats when they're counting votes.
20,000 Republicans turned up in Westlake last week to hear President Bush speak, and only two dozen lethargic Democrats managed to show up to protest. It'll be raining hard in NE Ohio on Election Day. Rain discourages potential voters who aren't motivated. Re-read all of the bullet points above and ... you do the math.
Buckle your seat belts, folks. It's gonna be a wild ride.
Woo Hoo! I'm in Missouri and I'm soooo pumped up to vote. I CANNOT SLEEP!!!! BROKEN GLASS REPUBLICAN HERE. I'll shoot a terrorist on the way to the polls if I have to - nothings gonna stop me... Then later today I'm helping the GOP with the phones... Everything is on the line - LET'S ROLL!
I am with you.....the polls open here in Jersey at 6 am....and I am dressed and pumped to get there.
..... and yes I know I forgot the bloody ping list. Its 1:30 in the morning!hahahaaaa! I hear ya! :^D
*** OHIO REVERSES LOWER COURT THIS EARLY AM:
POLL WATCHERS ALLOWED! REPORT FOR DUTY IN AM! ***Excerpt:
Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.
Whoops! No excerpt this time .....
MWAH-ha-ha-haaaa! Eat it, Soros! EAT IT!!! :)
Hmm. I wonder if it would be possible to organize a non-partisan orginization to act as a national voter verification service? I'm thinking a national computer net with an untouchable database (like those signature capture ones) of biometric identifiers to ensure everyone who shows up to vote is an eligible voter and votes ONCE.
Informative post. Thanks.
I haven't seen this. It's an important post.
good news ping.
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