Posted on 11/02/2004 9:53:55 AM PST by areafiftyone
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday that he knows from personal experience how important it is to have an ample cadre of poll watchers monitoring polling places - since vote fraud scuttled his first bid to become mayor in 1989.
Commenting on Election Day reports that Philadelphia voting machines were found to be stuffed with thousands of ballots before the polls opened, Giuliani said: "It happened to me in 1989."
The Republican mayor told WABC Radio's John Gambling that at the time his advisors had calculated he'd need 50,000 to 75,000 extra votes just to compensate for Democratic Party fraud in New York City.
When he lost the race by just 42,000 votes, he said, "We had all sorts of claims of voter irregularities."
"There were machines that already had hundreds of votes on them," he explained. "When they open that machine - if you don't have your poll watcher there to look at the back of it, you could start off the election in that district down 100 votes, down 200 votes, down 300 votes."
In his case, Giuliani said, "I followed the rule that I believe is the best, which is, you don't contest these things in court."
But the next time he ran in 1993, he organized a voter integrity effort.
"We got thousands and thousands of people to be poll watchers," he told Gambling. "And they told me lots of stories of buses that showed up with people that were intending to vote the names of people whose names were in the books that were dead or people who had moved out of the district."
Of Democrat opposition to poll watchers in key battleground states this year, Giuliani said his experience shows, "Of course you need poll watchers."
I remember. NYC got David Dinkens, who was less than worthless.
*** VOTER FRAUD AND CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT VOTER FRAUD SHOULD BE A MAJOR FELONY ***
I remember too. Dinkins turned this city into a sewer!
Listen to Rudy. He knows what he's talking about. Take all the claims about fraud in Philly as the truth. This needs to be scrutinized closely. Voter fraud is the central issue in this election. Don't listen to the Dem. spin about how the voter fraud is non-existent.
That just makes me sick!
Now we know how Bill & Hillary Clinton won their elections!
If we save this election then that would be great. Otherwise, at least VOTE FRAUD becoming a mainstream issue is a GREAT thing and would help us in future for sure.
Vote Fraud is the ONLY reason W would not carry MI and PA. If it was not for VOTE FRAUD he would have carried them last time as well as this time.
Add Wisconsin and Missouri to the hinky voter state list.
WRONG Rhudypoot. The best rule is ZERO TOLERANCE for VOTER FRAUD.
The GOP had better get with it - fraud is the only thing keeping the leftwing in the game.
Note that Guiliani followed the precedent of Nixon and other candidates who chose not to challenge the election despite having lots of legitimate complaints. Only a low life like Al Gore would put the country through a trauma for his own ego.
I think Rudy learned his lesson from this one. I think that if he runs against Hillary for Senate he will be prepared BIG TIME!
The Democrap mission is to find a 'COOK' county in every state.
Last time they stole WI and NM for sure.
Maybe Pubbie poll watchers are can save OHIO today.
If we hold what we won last time than due to Souther states picking up 14 extra EVs in last Census, even with New Hampshire lost, we would prevail.
But the evil party is desperate to a point where I think they would even resort to violence to steal Ohio.
PING for vote fraud example - Guliani 1989.
The Dims are counting on this reaction.
The GOP better pull there collective heads out of their behinds and do something about this at the national level. I was hoping that the congress would do something after 2000. In this day of technology...there is no way this should be happening. If people don't want to show a pic id because they can't afford it (the dem talking points)...then I am all for a government program to give them a FREE one. I would LOVE my tax dollars to be spent enforcing the one person=one vote rule. It is the foundation of our democracy and what I fight for (being in the service for 17 years). We have to do something to stop this stuff...it souldn't be happening. We have the power...we just need to do it.
Moveon.org and United Auto Workers in Michigan are denying GOP voters from voting, so says Rush. Many valid names do not appear on their roster.
Rudy says we need poll watchers.
I know. Dinkens accelerated the rate of mayhem and degeneracy in NYC with his "Duh" style of running things. Rudy did miraculous things when he took office. Too bad there werte term limits.
Clintigula's evil assistant Algore; a raving lunatic..
he nailed the teamsters ... the dems can't be any tougher
Rudy dropped the murder rate from 2500 plus to about 600 without more onerous gun control laws.
It should be treason.
He may not look it, but Guiliani is a tough guy. He's not afraid of anything. I'm glad he's on our side.
"Moveon.org and United Auto Workers in Michigan are denying GOP voters from voting"
I'm hearing all kinds of info. about the moveon people causing problems - like they believe they own the polling places. I can't find any concrete info. though.
The AFL-CIO and Moveon need to be smacked down wherever they are causing problems at the polling place. Sounds like registration orgs. in michigan signed up voters, then dumped the gop registrants. Post any info. you get. Fraud is the only way Kerry/Edwards can win.
Could NOT agree more.
We are the most advanced nation in the world. Why do we have to rely on this ancient system.
Democraps do not want the system to be overhauled.
I say the same thing, increase my taxes, but take this one time hit and ensure that only eligible voters get to vote.
The only good thing that would come off this election (if Libs steal OHIO) is that maybe, just maybe the Pubbies would get mad enough to make this their top most priority.
In both cases, the "losing" candidate understood that his political career wasn't over. This was particularly true in Giuliani's case . . . everyone in New York City with an IQ over 70 knew damn well that the Dinkins administration would end up being one of the most incompetent in the history of mankind.
I don't know. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Saurbrregh(sp) lost by a slight margin her first time out against Spenddening. Even proved it when she challenged the vote fraud. Dem judge threw it out, said it was not submitted in time! I can not recall hearing of any Repub who challenged vote fraud and won. Any of you know of any case?
I'm glad that he is speaking out. I wish the GOP was really hearing!
If we don't do something by the next election we are the fools.
VOTER FRAUD AND CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT VOTER FRAUD SHOULD BE A MAJOR FELONY
AMEN!!! This attacks all citizens. The libs are pushing the envelope...this time there will be repurcussions from the voting fraud this election.
1. A national ID card will be proposed by someone.
2. Mandatory federal sentencing will be suggested.
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