Posted on 11/02/2004 12:03:04 PM PST by dangus
There is a bogus batch of exit polling numbers, supposedly released by what used to be the VNS, showing Kerry winning several key states. Don't feel bad about being suckered. They fooled Drudge and aparrently K-LO at National Review. But they are absurd on the face. Republican sources say Pennsylvania is tied, these reports say Dems are leading by TWENTY points. They even list Michigan twice.
Is there anything they won't stoop to?
If the 20 point lead isn't a dead giveaway, I don't know what is.
Two notes:
* I'm inferring they are what K-Lo saw, because they match what she says. But she did not list all the states, including the Pennsylvania results.
* Initially, they listed "MI" twice, with two different sets of numbers. The last batch I saw lists "Mich" and "MI."
I agree. Geez, it's early in the day, these breathless reports are getting ridiculous in my opinion.
You're right. I posted what Drudge had up and 2 seconds later when I looked again they were gone. I agree, let's wait to hear confirmation form the Bush camp. This is getting ridiculous.
I thought ONLY AP was doing the polls.
I hope the tens of thousands of free republic readers each post their own vanity describing their opinion about exit polls right now!
Hope someone told Drudge!!!
How about the fact that the source of the poll was reported to be VNS, yet VNS was dissolved after the 2000 election and no longer exists.
DAMMIT! What are you STUPID?!!! Did I not say explicitly that I was referring to the bogus numbers posted by K-Lo? SO you go and post them!
we can only hope
How funny; NRO saying not to post them when THEY are the ones posting them!
ENOUGH!
NRO got tricked big time. Conservatives HAVE GOT to continue voting regardless of what the MSM says.
>>>The major networks have it Bush -4 in Ohio, -4 in Fla, -1 in NN, -1 Mich, and -2 in Iowa...according to National Review Magazines 'The Corner'
Guess what - it's bogus.
I don't even think they can legally release numbers until the polls close. This whole exit polling should be outlawed. It has changed the results of elections, I'm certain.
People...remember in 2000? About this time of day, Drudge ran headlines screaming that Gore was President based on the exit polls.
1. These exits don't yet count GOP voters who actually have a job and vote after work tonight. The union people get the day off in some instances.
2. Dan Rather and his exit pollers are doing this at place like Precinct 12 in Philadelphia, PA. They aren't doing this at a zillion rural towns which are going 80% Bush and will have record turnout.
Everyone calm down....if anything, all this means is the race is tight, and GW won't win big.....but we all knew that beforehand.
But early sample was based on a 59- 41 women to men ratio... MORE...
Yep. All this bogus crap should be totally ignored.
Do not panic...just GOTV!
Note DRUDGE headline: early samples BASED ON 59-41 WOMEN TO MEN VOTERS. ain't no way! PA, Kerry winning 60-40, NO WAY WITH HUGE TURNOUT IN LANCASTER AND CENTRAL PA, WITH 70-30 BUSH. THIS IS CRAP!
There is a successor organization to VNS, but I forgot its name. Drudge linked to it, in spite of the fact that the organization will not release their data.
Drudge now says this early exit poll sample was based on a 59-41 woman to man ratio.
I thought the same thing.
Drudge should really know better before posting crap like this.
Drudge is now saying these exit polls are based on a 59-41 women over men ratio.
In other words, BOGUS!
This is for folks who saw the numbers, but didn't catch some of the major flaws:
There were two different sets of numbers each for Michigan and Wisconsin. In addition the Florida numbers were identical to one set of the Michigan numbers.
It was a malicious hoax, plain and simple.
All this proves is that the MSM is doing exactly what we warned they would do!!
STOP BELIEVING THE MSM!
Sheesh.
National Review Online is using the same hoax numbers Drudge raced to put on his page. Ignore them. Soon we'll get real exit numbers, then we'll have a better idea of what's going on.
the dow tanked big time on this bogus news i wonder how much money it cost innocent people . people have lost all sense of responsibilty
59-41? And these were spouted as Gospel?
Drudge and Conservative blogs had better get their act together and stop posting unstantiated garbage. Everyone else had better stop believing initial posts about exit polls.
I did, and so did some other people I know. First time I ever emailed him, but what he did was outrageous. Anyway, he pulled the numbers off his page, but left up that stupid headline.
The point is that It was a hoax; Drudge was duped, but we should exercise a little more caution.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
The point is that It was a hoax; Drudge was duped, but we should exercise a little more caution.
Why are they going with these numbers- I don't understand this, even I know VNS is gone.
Everyone better get off their duffs and if they haven't voted, yet, get out there and Vote -- drag a friend with you.
I emailed him also - told him most REPUTABLE reporters check their sources before printing!!! I was just on his site and saw headline was still there with the last line saying women overpolled. Everyone better be ready for onslaught of bad info from Dems leaking out.
EXACTLY!!! This is infuriating! I'm angry at Drudge and K-Lo, too. They should check these things before posting them.
Personally, I think the bit about women being overpolled is a fig leaf to hide the fact that Drudge (and NRO) ran with hoax numbers. No reputable polling organization is going to skew that badly in favor of women, especially when men historically have tended to vote in greater numbers that women.
Don't let the MSM do this to us again. Reported good news for Kerry excites them and depresses us and that's their plan. If you haven't voted, go vote!
If you extrapolate , Bush is ahead if the men get their butts down to the polls.
I also wonder if this includes the prevoting and the absentees.
I think Bush is comfortably ahead myself given the sample being skewed.
RATS ARE AT IT AGAIN....SKEWED NUMBERS
RATS ARE LIARS...DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING COMING OUT THIS EARLY
ALERT ALERT ALERT
BUSH WILL WIN BY A LANDSLIDE...RACE FOR WH IS NOT CLOSE!!!
;o)
But we were way ahead in the exit polls of advanced voting. There might actually be a pro-Kerry bias among the early-birds at the polls today in states where there is advance voting, leaving W up anyway in votes cast so far.
I smell a Rat. Methinks Drudge and NRO have been had by a Dim/MSM hit to dampen conservative turnout.
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