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Death of a “Blasphemer”-What the murder of Theo van Gogh reveals about the cost of multiculturalism.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | November 3, 2004 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 11/03/2004 5:42:51 AM PST by SJackson

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1 posted on 11/03/2004 5:42:51 AM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
2 posted on 11/03/2004 5:44:21 AM PST by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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The question is: Can a nation that tolerates all religions tolerate a religion that does not tolerate other religions?


3 posted on 11/03/2004 5:45:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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They are reaping what they have sown - no way out of a long drawn out civil/terrorist war unless there starts to be mass conversions on muslims to Christianity...
4 posted on 11/03/2004 5:46:21 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SJackson

"you cannot just kill people on the street"

You can if you are muslim and there is always a liberal willing to explain away the reasons for the killing.


5 posted on 11/03/2004 5:46:45 AM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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Here's hoping that Pres. Bush and the new Congress will quickly take action to change the insane immigration laws of this country.


6 posted on 11/03/2004 6:17:44 AM PST by reelfoot
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“Nothing is known about the motive” of the killer." Said Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende.

Duh, I think the motive is screaming at him from the previous sentence.


"His assailant...a Dutch Moroccan who was wearing traditional Islamic clothing.....shooting van Gogh several times,...stabbed him repeatedly, slit....throat...butcher knife,.......a note containing verses from the Qur’an on the body."


7 posted on 11/03/2004 6:20:28 AM PST by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (You can't trust a Poodle to operate a grenade laucher or a Nuclear Football!)
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“Nothing is known about the motive” of the killer."

Another radical animal rights activist.

8 posted on 11/03/2004 6:29:06 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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>>>>>>To what extent are Muslim immigrants in Western countries willing to set aside Islamic strictures on questioning, criticizing, and leaving Islam? <<<<

Required reading for European dummies, before they become dhimmis:

The scorpion and the frog

The Camel's nose in the tent

Eurabia - the road to Munich

9 posted on 11/03/2004 6:33:02 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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"His death shows that it’s something that everyone who values freedom should worry about."

An Excellent this-is-the-future-so-take-heed post.


10 posted on 11/03/2004 6:33:48 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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bookmarked.


11 posted on 11/03/2004 6:34:31 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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>>>>>>To what extent are Muslim immigrants in Western countries willing to set aside Islamic strictures on questioning, criticizing, and leaving Islam? <<<<

the preview of comming attraction. Kosovo today, Ravena and Notre Dame tomorrow


12 posted on 11/03/2004 6:35:09 AM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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Europe has swallowed a poison pill.


13 posted on 11/03/2004 7:01:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SJackson

Islam, The Cult of Intolerance & Murder™


14 posted on 11/03/2004 7:19:01 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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And the liberals rail about US evangelicals. You don't find the followers of Pat Robertson out on the streets slitting the throats of liberals.

It's called civilization.


15 posted on 11/03/2004 7:32:09 AM PST by wildbill
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Death of a “Blasphemer”-What the murder of Theo van Gogh reveals about the cost of multiculturalism.

Thanks to the election results...a fair number of the fellow-travelers of
these murders will soon be feeding the worms of Fallujah.

May Providence protect the US Marines/soldiers and the Iraqi forces as they
clean out the rats-nest.
16 posted on 11/03/2004 8:39:18 AM PST by VOA
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His assailant was a Dutch Moroccan who was wearing traditional Islamic clothing. After shooting van Gogh several times, he stabbed him repeatedly, slit his throat with a butcher knife, and left a note containing verses from the Qur’an on the body. Said Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende: “Nothing is known about the motive” of the killer.

Religion of Peace update.
17 posted on 11/03/2004 8:42:46 AM PST by Antoninus (A conservative bases his politics on his morals. ... A liberal bases his morals on his politics.)
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Before the flames are started, Van Gogh did not deserve to die for what he did. I hope his murderer is dispatched in exactly the same way (knowing he won't be).
His death shows that it’s something that everyone who values freedom should worry about. Van Gogh's death has less to do with his freedom being assaulted but the beliefs of others being assaulted by him. What point is made in dressing womaen in diaphonous Muslim veils with Koranic verses scribbled on their body? Can not that point be made in a way that doesn't blaspheme the religion? The freedom our Founding Fathers won for us was mainly of a political nature. They had no intention of underwriting the completely gratuitous degrading debauchery of a Howard Stern, a Maplethorpe or a Van Gogh. That is not worth the expense of the life of good men, and good men don't expend their life that way. No, Van Gogh did not deserve to die but anyone who factors in human nature to the way they view the world will not be befuddled by Van Gogh's useless death. It will be recognized that he gave grievous offense to many, many people (not, apparently, just Muslims).
18 posted on 11/03/2004 9:41:36 AM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: reelfoot
Here's hoping that Pres. Bush and the new Congress will quickly take action to change the insane immigration laws of this country.

And the new laws should be retroactive. The task isn't just to stop the ongoing invasion. What is equally important, is to clean up the harm already done, to get rid of the Islamic vermin so abundant everywhere in the West.

Look for instance at this part of the article:

She held up a sign saying, “Muslims Against Violence,” explaining: “I decided that as a Muslim and a Moroccan I should take up my responsibility to show that we do not support this act.”

They should do it back in Morocco, or any other Islamic cesspool they had come from. They demand so loudly a right of return for their terrorist Pali buddies... but their own right to go back was never taken from them. Mohammedans did learn their PR lessons. They always have at hand a group of "moderate intellectuals" ready to put up a show of tolerance and compassion. But the sincere majority is "dancing in the streets" and celebrates the deaths of infidels.

Even when that infidels had died quite a long time ago. Here in Wellington, for instance, the Somalian community leadership was quick to express "their outrage" when Jewish graves were desecrated several weeks ago. But I looked the grass-root Kiwi Somalians (what a joke!) in the eye, and I didn't believe a word.

And yes, in this tiny country we have a ever-growing Somalian, and Afghan, and Arab, and other Mohammedan communities, all heavily subsidized by the pinko Labour government with our tax money. There is even widely praised by the Left "the first Muslim MP" in the NZ Parliament...

They still restrain themselves from ritual killings of the infidels, keeping to more "moderate" crimes like rape of "white European whores" and, sometimes, each other... but wait another 10 to 15 years. When this mob is big enough, the gloves will go off.

19 posted on 11/03/2004 1:42:03 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: thegreatbeast
It will be recognized that he gave grievous offense to many, many people (not, apparently, just Muslims).

You are fighting a straw man of your own making. The article itself reveals that in the past van Gough had offended both Christians and Jews, who filed formal complains against him.

That what it's all about - civilised people choose civilised ways to deal with an offender, savages would shoot him several times, stabb him repeatedly, slit his throat with a butcher knife, and leave a note containing verses from the Qur’an on the body.

And this in deed is something that everyone who values freedom should worry about. Isn't it?

20 posted on 11/03/2004 1:56:23 PM PST by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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