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German Leader Seeks New Start From Bush (Don't Call Us, We'll Call You, Kraut!)
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 11/3/2004 | Geir Moulson

Posted on 11/03/2004 11:06:25 AM PST by Pyro7480

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To: Pyro7480
I think they should refer all begging German question's to Donald Rumsfeld
64 posted on 11/06/2004 3:16:29 AM PST by lillybet
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To: rrrod

See, i don´t hate america, i know that not all of you are like you seem to me... So, there is hope.... The fixed stereotypes that restrict your intellectual performance make me believe that you and your fellows around here are brainless, i didn´t think that people could be _this_ stupid... You talk like you were in the position of a winner, but if you leave your projected reality presented by your dumb-ass tv you will soon find out that you are totally wrong with every word you say. It´s your people dying in Iraq and elsewhere in the world, and they were sent out to kill people. Thats the deal. You keep on losing since Vietnam, and you don´t seem to learn. One day you will face...

And, as an example for american weakness, one fact: What if Wladimir Putin (the russian president) decides to trade his oil in € EURO?!? The federal reserve bank will emitt gold as the new currency, and everybody with guns will try to kill as many people as he/she can... Back to the wild west, just for the cause of a gigantic debit hole in your revenue... Your dues will eat you up, and thats the reason for america to wage war to make efforts on prospering...


65 posted on 11/06/2004 5:30:21 PM PST by SichAnDenKopfGreifender
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To: rrrod

Well, our military doesn´t torture for fun... watching your military in action was like a bad horror film...


66 posted on 11/06/2004 5:32:44 PM PST by SichAnDenKopfGreifender
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To: Pyro7480

We have the same geo political interests, the same enemies, the same goals. However, Germany is willing to play election politics with US security concerns, risk the lives of American soldiers and cost the US tax payer potentially billions.

The damage has become institutionalized. The relationship will remain cool until Schroeder leaves. Regardless, at this point Germany is viewed no longer as a reliable allied nation. No enemy (We all want the same and are heading the same way), but undeniably we are readjusting our force structure in Europe and even if denied (To end the knife cutting of each other) the degree of withdraw and how the US is realigning is greatly influenced by Germany’s 2002 Iraq stunt.

It’s no revenge, just the consequence of distrust. Why stay in Germany where you are “forward deployed” but can’t deploy fast from, have high costs, bureaucracy, anti-American undertones, lots of training restrictions and have to deal with an elevated threat because of the preponderance of Muslim organizations like Ansar Al Islam? Like a civilian firm, it’s more cost effective and easier to do military business elsewhere. Will we have over flight rights? Can we use the rivers? Will the boarders with neighbors be open? This war showed that there are to many variables in Germany. Especially now that Germany feels no longer threatened. They now are willing to play with NATO and US security for nearly any reason. Security will quickly be politicized since it’s no longer holly or off the table. No Warsaw pack makes the Germans very bold in their dealings with US forces.

Red6


67 posted on 12/04/2004 7:01:21 PM PST by Red6
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To: SichAnDenKopfGreifender

I think you were looking for the DU site. but now that you stumbled in here stick around. You may learn something.


68 posted on 12/04/2004 7:10:54 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Red6

Spot on!


69 posted on 12/04/2004 7:14:47 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: SichAnDenKopfGreifender

"Oooh, the Germans are mad at me... I'm so scared! Oooooh, the Germans...Uh oh...The Germans are coming after me... Oh, don't let the Germans come after me... Oh, the Germans are coming after me... No, they're so big and strong... Protect me from the Germans!"


70 posted on 12/04/2004 7:16:31 PM PST by Colosis (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: SichAnDenKopfGreifender

(Hope this is not over your head?)

The Saudis offered the Germans to use the DM in the late 70s. Knowing the consequences they declined. It would have ruined their economy as the Euro is doing today. The LAST thing they want is to now trade oil in the Euro. The difference with the US is that we have the economic volume to sustain under such pressure for a long time. It’s no conspiracy that trade is conducted in $. It was NOT even good for the US economy since it was pricing our products off the markets as in the 80s.

You do realize the US is in the Republic of Georgia where things are fairly stable while in neighboring Chechnya the Russians are failing? More examples? Afghanistan.

I understand that your Pravda and other STATE run media does not tell you about the OVER 10,000 Russians that died in the two Chechen wars. Not counting the stuff in between or things like the train bombing or assassination of their president, Beslan, hijacked planes and other car bombs and stuff. No, I’m talking JUST war. Sorry guy, we didn’t have Brigade commanders get captured in Groznyy and a whole armored brigade mauled to pieces down town.

Why do you think the US is in Moldova, Khuzestan, Uzbekistan, Rep of Georgia? Let me put it to you in a way that you won’t want to understand. YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF CLEANING UP YOUR OWN BACK YARD! You have failed over and over and over. In Afghanistan things are looking actually quiet well, you left defeated. We attacked in the winter. We do NOT boarder them and are doing everything via air.

What you should do is ask yourself whether you have a grip of even just the internal situation in Russia. Remember the Theater and several other bombings in just the last three years? If I were you, I’d be praying (But you’re probably Godless) that the US succeeds. But blinded by inferiority complexes you will not be able to see this. In fact, as you label Americans dumb you will not even see the threat. You see the West or US as a threat as you get bombed. But you’re hopeless. A product of state owned media yourself; you think that a free media as in the US with CNN and others is slanted in the US favor.

Let me give you some projections though. Russia’s economic growth will slow. Troubles with Islamists will continue and you won’t get control of them. While you think of the world as NATO vs. Warsaw Pack (ended in 1989) you have a nation in your East that has more military might soon than you. Someone you fought already in the 70s. Someone who took Tibet, claims Taiwan, supported the North Koreans, waged war against India and supported the Kamas Rouge and Viet Cong. They are no pacifists, are becoming militarily and economically bigger than you; and YOU boarder them.

You don’t even know who your enemies are! Go post your crap in some .ru site.

PS, we paid for your equipment to leave Maldova since you're to BROKE to pay for their move. Your Air Borne guys in the Balkans were volunteers. NATO had to end up paying some of your expenses because you could not afford it. Your own troops were better cared for in the Balkans than at their home station! However, while you hope for us to get a bloody nose (Since your empire collapsed, your economically on your A$$ and feel inferior) we actually prayed for you guys at my church when Beslan happened. We do not wish you evil or defeat. You live in the past. You're pathetic.

Red6


71 posted on 12/05/2004 11:50:31 AM PST by Red6
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To: Pyro7480
When they vote out the left and put the center-right back in, and when they get serious about Iran and nuclear proliferation, instead of flaking for terrorists seeking them to suck up to the French, we can talk. Until then, they can pound sand.
72 posted on 12/05/2004 1:32:28 PM PST by JasonC
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