Posted on 11/03/2004 1:24:15 PM PST by cogitator
I like Rudy a lot also - except for that one issue, which is a make or break one for me. If one can't respect the most basic of rights of the people, then you have no business wielding enormous power over them.
As for him being the Veep nominee, I could see it. It would be a very practical choice (he's well-liked across the board, there would undoubtedly be geographical balance, and he could bring NY to the Pubbies). Also, the nominee will choose whomever he (or she) pleases, without regard to the primaries, so Rudy would actually have a shot at it. If so, and if elected, I'd pray even harder for the continued good health of whomever was the Prez; that, and for a rock-solid conservative Congressional leadership that wouldn't tolerate any anti-gun legislation.
http://www.hillnews.com/news/090204/club.aspx
The Hill - The Club for Growth, known for it's early intervention into primary battles, jumps the gun again and endorses Governor Bill Owens of Colorado as the Republican nominee for President in 2008. This is a bold and risky move, but (IMO) pushes Governor Owens to near front runner status. This is not mentioned in the mainstream press.
Owens/Rice 2008?
Owens/McCain 2008?
Senator McCain
Note that this governor vs. senator thing is a knock on Obama, and he won't even have completed a full term in 2008.
What about Rick Perry, current governor of Texas? He's been very effective, strongly conservative, and he's also a babe magnet (more accurately, if I looked like him and I was single, I might be a babe magnet).
i also think that Rudy would - given that it would be a more national exposure - kind of ignore the gun issue. not propose any new gun control etc.
This is my own guess no evidence to support
I can't support anyone for VP who I wouldn't see as a good President. Rudy would not be a good President. Gun banning and pro-choice are not what the R's want in a President, or a man 1 heartbeat away.
I also will not vote for another Bush. Sorry but my ancestors did not fight to be rid of royalty only to reinvent it in America. Two Bush's is enough. It's the Republican party, not the Bush party. This is not Saudi Arabia.
If you go back over the last few decades, you'll find that not only are sitting or former U.S. Senators rarely ever successful in White House bids -- they've also been among the dopiest candidates we've ever seen.
George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Bob Dole, Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, and now John Kerry . . . I rest my case!
George Allen has been Governor and Senator
McCain will not play second-fiddle, I don't think. 2008 will be all-or-nothing for him -- and because he's a Senator, I think that knocks him out. Plus, McCain has too much centrist in him -- I don't think the GOP base would be wildly supportive.
I think Allen's a dark horse, but (as noted by myself and somewhat supported by others), being a Senator isn't the best place to start a Presidential campaign. For one thing, if you're absent a lot making the requisite appearances and you miss votes, you get the knock that you're not doing your job (which wasn't something that John Edwards wanted Dick Cheney to talk about, was it?)
I understand your point.
yea i can agree with that. I still think Owens is a top choice. He would satisfy the religous base and hold onto NV, NM, CO - which are increasingly becoming Democratic and also appeal to the south becasue of his strong conservatism. I think he would be a great pres.
I would like to see Republicans put forth school choice as a platform too. I think it could win with voters and, most importantly, its the right thing to do.
The biggest lesson a political party should have learned over the last 12 years is that their odds of winning a presidential election are substantially better if there is no contentious primary fight beforehand.
Bill Owens.
Tommy Franks?
On second thought, let's not. Three presidents from the same family would be a little too close to hereditary rule for my comfort.
I'm pretty sure Jeb sees it that way too.
I'm suggesting Jeb just for the DU lurkers who aren't unconscious yet. Drive 'em over the edge.
Plus, it gives us a front campaign to put the real campaign behind.
My GOP Dark Horse for 2008.... former US Representative, VA governor, and current US Senator George Allen. Quite a varied political career so far... why not President?
Allen's Senate term is up in 2006. If he decides not to stand for the seat, you can be darn sure it's because he's going to make a push for the White House.
Yeah... Pataki has three terms of not being Mario Cuomo, and New York is thankful.
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