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U.N. Watchers Warn Over Bush Win
IPS ^ | Nov 3, 2004 | Thalif Deen

Posted on 11/03/2004 4:02:24 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

UNITED NATIONS, Nov 3 (IPS) - U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan was quick to congratulate U.S. President George W Bush on his re-election Wednesday but diplomats and U.N. watchers issued warnings about future U.S.-U.N. relations.

Annan, who irritated the White House recently by describing the U.S. invasion of Iraq as ''illegal,'' has little or no choice but to welcome four more years of a new Bush administration, according to U.N. diplomats and officials.

''If the United Nations is to survive as an institution, it has to learn to live with the United States,'' said an Asian diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Annan was his usual diplomatic self after the news was announced, conveying ''warm'' wishes to the U.S. president.

After congratulating Bush, the secretary-general said he is ''committed to continuing to work with President Bush and his administration on the whole range of issues facing the United Nations and the world.''

Since Annan is expected to finish his second five-year term as U.N. chief only by the end of December 2006, he will have to work with the new Bush team at least for the next two years.

Bush, whose new four-year term will end December 2008, will also play a key role in electing the next U.N. secretary-general, possibly from Asia.

A long serving U.N. official says Annan cannot afford to take a confrontational stand against Washington, ''because he will only be doing irreparable damage to the institution''.

''Either you cooperate with the White House -- or you just perish,'' he added.

The reaction was equally strong from U.S. political analysts, academics and U.N. activists.

''The Bush policies toward the United Nations are likely to remain similar -- viewing the United Nations as a significant tool when useful to Washington and as an irrelevant ritual otherwise,'' says Norman Solomon, executive director of the Washington-based Institute for Public Accuracy.

''Likewise, we'll see Washington continue to use the rhetoric of 'multilateralism' when expedient, while taking unilateral action whenever convenient,'' Solomon told IPS.

Diplomats at the United Nations, he said, would be foolish to take Bush's claims seriously. "The United Nations should impede and oppose -- not assist or tacitly support -- policies from Washington that seek to extend empire," said Solomon, co-author of 'Target Iraq: What the News Media Didn't Tell You'.

The Bush administration, which went to war in Iraq in March 2003 without U.N. authorisation, has also remained at odds with the United Nations over sending a large team of U.N. employees to organise elections in the occupied country in January 2005.

Annan has said he will not send U.N. staffers until and unless the security environment in Iraq shows signs of improvement.

''I think the United States is very eager to get the United Nations on board to provide some semblance of international credibility to these inevitably flawed 'elections under occupation','' says Phyllis Bennis of the Washington-based Institute for Policy Studies.

But clearly their commitment to getting the United Nations involved in the polls is limited, she added.

''We know from the (New York-based newspaper) 'Newsday' leak that it was Washington that rejected the offer of a large multilateral deployment of troops from a number of Muslim countries specifically designed to protect U.N. election workers, because the force would be under U.N., not U.S., command,'' said Bennis, author of 'Before and After: U.S. Foreign Policy and the Sep. 11 Crisis'.

''That means (U.S. officials) were more concerned with maintaining Pentagon hegemony in Iraq than in creating a scenario under which the United Nations might go in. But it remains politically crucial for the United Nations to continue its refusal to return to Iraq under the terms of the U.S. occupation -- even if the official reason remains the lack of security,'' she told IPS.

A U.N. return to Iraq under those conditions would mean legitimating the U.S. occupation of that country -- and thereby delegitimising the United Nations itself, Bennis added.

According to Nasser Aruri, chancellor professor emeritus at the University of Massachusetts, ''There is no reason to assume that the Bush administration, which has ridiculed the United Nations as an institution whose 'time has passed', is likely to develop a sudden respect for the world body whose basic principles are at odds with the world view of the Bush administration."

The Bush government, he added, has effectively reduced the five permanent members of the Security Council, to just one -- the United States (the others being Britain, France, Russia and China).

Bennis predicted the Bush administration would continue with its "aggressive" foreign policy while totally disregarding the United Nations.

''The world will see a re-empowered American administration claiming a popular mandate, with a strengthened commitment to preventive war in Iraq, intensified support for Israel's occupation of Palestine, renewed military threats against other perceived 'enemies,' the abandonment of nuclear weapons accountability, the sidelining of the United Nations, and the consolidation of a law of empire to match the rejection of international law," she added.


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1 posted on 11/03/2004 4:02:24 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

To Kofi Annan, don't let the door hit you in the ass.


2 posted on 11/03/2004 4:03:37 PM PST by Perdogg (W stands for Winner)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Hey UN,

Would you rather we kicked you out of OUR country?

Sincerely,

The United States of America


3 posted on 11/03/2004 4:04:54 PM PST by Luircin (PROUD to be a member of Generation W)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
but diplomats and U.N. watchers issued warnings about future U.S.-U.N. relations.

Go ahead. Make my day.

4 posted on 11/03/2004 4:05:48 PM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Interesting, the anonymous asian diplomat gets it, but this solomon idiot doesn't?


5 posted on 11/03/2004 4:06:22 PM PST by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It can not be stated enough "Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US"


6 posted on 11/03/2004 4:06:51 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What pathetic drivel the UN manages to continue sending out.
2 more years Kofi!


7 posted on 11/03/2004 4:06:54 PM PST by Truthbringer (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.)
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To: All

"If the United Nations is to survive as an institution, it has to learn to live with the United States...Either you cooperate with the White House -- or you just perish"

Ahh, now they get it.


8 posted on 11/03/2004 4:07:00 PM PST by Democracy In Iraq
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Time for Kofi & Co. to go....
Enough of their trash! Send them packing! The building will make good office space!


9 posted on 11/03/2004 4:07:01 PM PST by gimme1ibertee (Kerry.....Is so very......GONE!!!!!!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
How do I say this diplomatically? Let's see.

Go fornicate yourself Kofi.

Now I feel better.

10 posted on 11/03/2004 4:09:03 PM PST by Militiaman7 (Jesus is my personal Physician.)
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To: Perdogg

How about John Ashcroft for the new UN Secretary General.


11 posted on 11/03/2004 4:09:33 PM PST by agincourt1415 (OK, Democrats ITS OVER, GET OVER IT!)
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To: Perdogg

ROFL!


12 posted on 11/03/2004 4:10:04 PM PST by MeekMom (Win Bush Win!!!!)
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To: Militiaman7
Kofi,
We of the United States, cordially invite you to return to your predesignated country of origin, and initiate auto-copulatory procedures.
Makes saying "Go home and f**k yourself" just a bit more elegant than normal.
13 posted on 11/03/2004 4:11:28 PM PST by akorahil (MSM is RIP)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

According to Nasser Aruri, chancellor professor emeritus at the University of Massachusetts.


isn't her visa up?


Doogle


14 posted on 11/03/2004 4:11:31 PM PST by Doogle (USAF..4077thTFW...Wolf Pack...408MMS ....Ubon,Thailand in "69" Night Line Delivery.AMMO)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Any one that uses the term "hegemony" in regards to
American policy.......is not our friend.


15 posted on 11/03/2004 4:12:02 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

''If the United Nations is to survive as an institution, it has to learn to live with the United States,'' said an Asian diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity.


...OR they can learn to shut their socialist mouth's or LEAVE.


16 posted on 11/03/2004 4:14:28 PM PST by RetSignman (The Pendulum is swinging.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"The United Nations should impede and oppose -- not assist or tacitly support -- policies from Washington that seek to extend empire," said Solomon, co-author of 'Target Iraq: What the News Media Didn't Tell You'.

Didn't they used to call these kind of statements, advising the hampering of our own country, treason?

17 posted on 11/03/2004 4:15:25 PM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'll got out on a limb here and post an old cry:

Get the U.S. out of the UN and the UN out of the U.S.!

18 posted on 11/03/2004 4:16:55 PM PST by ImpBill (Twas a very good night for the Republic!)
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To: Doogle
According to Nasser Aruri, chancellor professor emeritus at the University of Massachusetts. isn't her visa up? Really... the quota on 'imported academics who come here solely to bash the U.S., our freedom,and our power in the world' is way too large. Time to cut back on it.
19 posted on 11/03/2004 4:17:04 PM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''The world will see a re-empowered American administration claiming a popular mandate, with a strengthened commitment to preventive war in Iraq, intensified support for Israel's occupation of Palestine, renewed military threats against other perceived 'enemies,' the abandonment of nuclear weapons accountability, the sidelining of the United Nations, and the consolidation of a law of empire to match the rejection of international law," she added.

I get goosebumps just reading this. Yeah!

20 posted on 11/03/2004 4:17:14 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Fingers now uncrossed)
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To: Perdogg

"Bush, whose new four-year term will end December 2008,"

I could be wrong, but doesn't his new four-year term end Jan 20th 2009?


21 posted on 11/03/2004 4:17:43 PM PST by DaiHuy (Admin Mod= denial of free speech)
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To: akorahil

Well said!


22 posted on 11/03/2004 4:20:08 PM PST by Militiaman7 (Jesus is my personal Physician.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''If the United Nations is to survive as an institution, it has to learn to live with the United States,''

The choice is clear. Either get along with us or fade to irrelevance and disappear. Personally, I like the second choice.

For me, this is a very important mandate. Preservation of United States sovereignty. Kerry would have sold us out and Clinton would be the Secretary General. [shudder]

23 posted on 11/03/2004 4:23:12 PM PST by Colorado Doug
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To: DaiHuy
"Bush, whose new four-year term will end December 2008,"

I could be wrong, but doesn't his new four-year term end Jan 20th 2009?

lol....what do you want from a Muslim professor at a liberal college in Mass, smarts?


Doogle
24 posted on 11/03/2004 4:24:05 PM PST by Doogle (USAF..4077thTFW...Wolf Pack...408MMS ....Ubon,Thailand in "69" Night Line Delivery.AMMO)
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To: Democracy In Iraq

If the United Nations is to survive as an institution, it has to learn to live with the United States,''

Why l do I get a picture of a Giant tick sucking on an elephant in my head when I heard this statement?


25 posted on 11/03/2004 4:26:47 PM PST by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

To Kofi: I should give a sh*t because....


26 posted on 11/03/2004 4:28:17 PM PST by Army Air Corps (The real Kerry-Edwards election slogan: "Attacked at Home, ridiculed abroad.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
If the United Nations is to survive as an institution, it has to learn to live with the United States,'' said an Asian diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity.

DID ANYONE ELSE PICK UP ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS? If the US pulls out of the U.N. it's DONE!!! GET U.S. OUT NOW!!!
27 posted on 11/03/2004 4:28:51 PM PST by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... SEE ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''The Bush policies toward the United Nations are likely to remain similar -- viewing the United Nations as a significant tool when useful to Washington and as an irrelevant ritual otherwise,'' says Norman Solomon, executive director of the Washington-based Institute for Public Accuracy.

I pick "irrelevant ritual". When has the UN ever been a significant tool? Unless we're using the term "tool" as a deragatory term - as in "what a tool!".

28 posted on 11/03/2004 4:29:07 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: ImpBill

It's time to revive the bumper stickers from the 70s.

Get the US out of the UN
Get the UN out of the US


29 posted on 11/03/2004 4:35:36 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ping


30 posted on 11/03/2004 4:38:10 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Tailgunner Joe
These UN diplomats are a bunch of pompous asses. The reason why the US didn't want muslim security forces for the UN workers is because Iraqi does not want foreign musilm troops. They have the gall to say that the US is losing credibility when it's the UN that is losing credibility with every passing day.

If the US pulls this Iraq election off with little or no help from the UN, it will underline it's complete and utter irrelevency. The US will have shown it has more capability, dicisiveness and, above all, more willingness to act on their principles than the corrupt UN.

31 posted on 11/03/2004 4:38:29 PM PST by rudypoot (Kerry sold out the US for political gain before now and he is doing it again.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''Likewise, we'll see Washington continue to use the rhetoric of 'multilateralism' when expedient, while taking unilateral action whenever convenient,'' Solomon told IPS

How about:

we'll see Paris continue to use the rhetoric of 'multilateralism' when expedient, while taking unilateral action whenever convenient

32 posted on 11/03/2004 4:38:43 PM PST by expatpat
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To: expatpat

Someone needs to introduce this writer to spell check.


33 posted on 11/03/2004 4:55:12 PM PST by diane in IL
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''Either you cooperate with the White House -- or you just perish,'' he added.

You do not annoy the 800 pound gorilla in your living room.

Or to go one better, you don't step on Superman's cape.

34 posted on 11/03/2004 4:56:51 PM PST by mhking
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To: Tailgunner Joe
My two stage plan for future U.S./UN relations:

1. 24 hour notice.

2. Bulldozers.

35 posted on 11/03/2004 5:03:22 PM PST by BikerTrash (Enough already with the carnival freak show...bring back COOL!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''Either you cooperate with the White House -- or you just perish,'' he added.

Please..... PLEASE DON'T COOPERATE!!

FMCDH(BITS)

36 posted on 11/03/2004 5:12:03 PM PST by nothingnew (KERRY: "If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again!")
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To: All
My 2¢'s about the un?

American Policy Center on-line Declaration of Independence from the U.N.

As I recall, the un has one or more "contingency sites" located in other nations... let's banish them there--

Moreover:

 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/679476/posts
U.N. Finally Forced to Probe Its Pedophilia Scandal
Newsmax.com ^ | Tuesday, May 7, 2002
"Imagine the screaming headlines and worldwide outrage if the Catholic Church or any other church allowed sexual abuse of children on such a massive scale. Could the media establishment's pro-U.N., anti-religious bias have anything to do with the stunning discrepancy? "

Child sex book given out at U.N. summit

UN cash for accused Nazi (Waldheim got 4,1 million)

'War Crimes' Fear For British Troops. Well, they wanted the World Court Didn't They?

Click this picture & goto "last" for the latest:


massive sexual abuse of children in Africa,


37 posted on 11/03/2004 5:21:15 PM PST by backhoe ("We meet at Dawn- destiny Awaits...")
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To: Democracy In Iraq

Uncle Sucker has bankrolled every "international"
thing to come along, without so much as a complaint.
The U.N. is like the kept mistress who complains that
her Mercedes isn't big enough and cuckolds her lover
with other men.


38 posted on 11/03/2004 5:28:29 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: NY Attitude

BUMP


39 posted on 11/03/2004 5:30:12 PM PST by oldtimer
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To: agincourt1415

How about Alan Keyes for the new Secretary General!


40 posted on 11/03/2004 5:31:12 PM PST by oldtimer
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Sounds like GW's UN policy is right on the money. The Security Council consists of us. Period. We suck all the air out of the room. That's a fact. Get over it.


41 posted on 11/03/2004 5:32:37 PM PST by hershey
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To: Tailgunner Joe
A long serving U.N. official says... ''Either you cooperate with the White House -- or you just perish,'' he added.

Sounds about right.

These folk don't know how to deal with a Texas Cowboy...no nuancing, no parsing, just cards on the table.

42 posted on 11/03/2004 5:33:15 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Right Wing Professor

Double "yeah"


43 posted on 11/03/2004 5:36:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Newsflash to elites, the voters have spoken and the working majority agree with Bush regarding the UN as a tool.

The UN better wake up and smell the coffee before abolishing the UN becomes a wedge issue in 2008.


44 posted on 11/03/2004 5:37:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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To: Colorado Doug
For me, this is a very important mandate. Preservation of United States sovereignty. Kerry would have sold us out and Clinton would be the Secretary General. [shudder]

Did we just dodge a big bullet or what?

45 posted on 11/03/2004 5:38:35 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
''The Bush policies toward the United Nations are likely to remain similar -- viewing the United Nations as a significant tool when useful to Washington and as an irrelevant ritual otherwise,'' says Norman Solomon, executive director of the Washington-based Institute for Public Accuracy

the united states played by the rules of the united nations when knocking off saddam. they also played by the rules in the food-for-oil program. the united nations has not been playing by the rules. what the world is learning is that bush and powell are great diplomats and can cut through the crap to get to the truth. if ugly t*rds are uncovered, so be it.

46 posted on 11/03/2004 5:41:23 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

To Kofi: We just cancelled the check on the dues, now get out of this country. Go to France, no...go to Hell! Bubbye!


47 posted on 11/03/2004 5:45:08 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The United Nations should impede and oppose...policies from Washington...

Nearly 60,000,000 Americans are just waiting for a chance to boot the UN from here to Brussels. So please, please impede and oppose our President.

48 posted on 11/03/2004 5:45:48 PM PST by Wolfstar (Tomorrow the United States of America hangs in the balance. Vote accordingly.)
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To: agincourt1415

Supreme Court...


49 posted on 11/03/2004 5:45:53 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Someone call the Waaaahhhhmublance!


50 posted on 11/03/2004 5:53:42 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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