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Why do urban centers vote Democrat, and rural Republican?
11-03 | M. Peach

Posted on 11/03/2004 6:23:56 PM PST by M. Peach

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To: BunnySlippers

Thank you. I appreciate it.


141 posted on 11/03/2004 7:14:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: M. Peach
Easy answer most of the minorities (Blacks and Latios) are concentrated in large cities - and they vote overwhelmingly for the DUs
142 posted on 11/03/2004 7:14:34 PM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: M. Peach

There might be a mindset that drives people to the "big city" to "make a name for themselves". If someone is motivated by such a prejudice, they're going to be in a somewhat elitist mindset, wanting to differentiate themselves from us "hicks in the boondocks" in philosophy, morality etc.


143 posted on 11/03/2004 7:15:36 PM PST by Brett66 (Dan Rather, the most busted man in America.)
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To: M. Peach
I did not see the smilie. With all due respect, look at the responses you are getting. Onr VERY big over looked area is apparently people who are conservatives who live in urban areas.

I was approaching the subject with the intent of exploring the differences in red and blue areas. Some others join in to be obnixious.

144 posted on 11/03/2004 7:15:44 PM PST by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thank you Doughtyone - well thought out and reasoned. I'll pass this on to my son.


145 posted on 11/03/2004 7:15:56 PM PST by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)
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To: M. Peach

Urban residents don't know their neighbors. They are basically "me" people. Unlike rural folks who have strong social interactions usually over long periods of time with several generations of families.


146 posted on 11/03/2004 7:16:14 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I have also heard quite a few times your post is the reason the founders came up with the electoral college. They knew the large metro areas would become socialist cesspools, and the college gives the rural areas, the lovers of freedom and independence, at least some influence over national elections.

It's a Red/Blue thang, proven again yesterday. And, it's why the flaming liberals would love to do away with it, and can't, because even small, liberal states won't give up that freedom. Brilliant.

147 posted on 11/03/2004 7:16:33 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: DoughtyOne
Living in the city, one is much more likley to become involved with the psychoanalysis community at some point in time.

Meaningless speculation.

If you want to meet really strange crazy people the most rural precincts are where to go. Outside day-to-day social experiences they are easier become estranged from what most accept as in the range of normal behavior.

Yet they don't see shrinks -- it's a long drive and the shrinks don't market well -- and concentrated market has more of any service provider, pumblers or shinks and folks using thereof.

148 posted on 11/03/2004 7:17:47 PM PST by bvw
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To: BunnySlippers
The combination of lead-based paint, toxic waste and pollution lead to a vast proportion of urban populations being brain damaged.

Oh, brilliant! You realize that one of the largest groups of Freepers is based in California ... the urban areas. I know as I have Freeped with them for years.

Your theory is ignorant and just plain stupid.

One of the side effects of lead poisoning is that it renders people without a sense of humor.

149 posted on 11/03/2004 7:18:06 PM PST by PattonReincarnated (They say only 10% of Muslims are extremists - that's only 100,000,000+ people)
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To: VRWCTexan

Why?


150 posted on 11/03/2004 7:18:54 PM PST by bvw
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To: BunnySlippers

"Some others join in to be obnoxious."

I hear what you say - It is cocktail hour in most parts - and I'm sure you can tell which ones have knocked back a few. I think some just try to be funny and say stupid things.

They only demean themselves -


151 posted on 11/03/2004 7:19:35 PM PST by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)
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To: error99

Bingo!


152 posted on 11/03/2004 7:20:43 PM PST by fourscore (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Born to Conserve
And, why didn't the liberals follow them? It is more expensive to live out side the cities, and the parasites cannot follow their hosts easily.

The parasites don't have to follow, they just expand the city limits and re-absorb the escaped hosts via annexation.

153 posted on 11/03/2004 7:21:25 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: faithincowboys
"If black voters voted like normal Americans,...

That is likely one of the most blatant racist comments that I have ever seen posted on FR.com.

I grew up in a city, and I have lived as a minority myself, big time. The problems with urban voters are in my view are not black vs. white.

The issues have to do with Class and affluence.

154 posted on 11/03/2004 7:21:31 PM PST by Radix (My Tag Line just woke up from a bad John Kerry won the White House dream!)
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To: PattonReincarnated
Did you forget your smiley faces? It came across as totally ignorant. If you meant otherwise (a joke?) it was not apparent. Look at some of the responses we see on this thread. As far as I am concerned, I am doing what I can as a conservative in a big city (Los Angeles).

If I can't get support from the red states on this site, where can I find it?

155 posted on 11/03/2004 7:23:31 PM PST by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: M. Peach

For most people, voting is hereditary. That is, if they vote at all, they vote as their parents did.

The Democrats, early in their history, deliberately set out too take control of the political machinery of large cities. That has been a pillar of the party's existence since its inception. Martin van Buren built the first Democrat coalition of the South and New York.

Later, the Democrats tightened their grip on Boston and New York by means of using their existing urban machines to co-opt large numbers of Irish immigrants (c.f. Boss Tweed, Tammany Hall) into the party. It's the same in Boston.

In the mid-west, the German, Scandinavian and other immigrants that settled the area departed from countries with traditions of monarchy and aristocracy, and carried that notion of social organization with them to the New World.

In postbellum America, freed slaves travelled to many cities looking for jobs and opportunity. They were a solid Republican constituency, until the Democrats won them over with the civil rights acts of the mid-20th century.

Finally, media consumption is far higher in cities than in rural creas, and television and major urban newspapers are overwhelmingly liberal.


156 posted on 11/03/2004 7:25:08 PM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular vote victory in history!)
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To: M. Peach

That's easy. Residents of rural areas, recognize bull poo poo by sight, sound or smell. Politicians can't sh*t them.


157 posted on 11/03/2004 7:25:08 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (.Let's not replace a Daschele with a Specter, just because his little ass fits the same chair.)
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To: Our man in washington

Very good answer.

Urban areas also seem to provide ample audience to support the narcissist. Since they don't really produce much of value on their own, they need more external economic support from those who will pay for the narcissist's "superiority". i.e. A farmer / miner / lumberjack will likely not be willing to spend hard-earned money on a piece of art, where a city-dweller would be much more likely to.


158 posted on 11/03/2004 7:25:55 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.)
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To: M. Peach

This might sound funny, but I think it starts with distraction. There are so many other things to do than to go to church, so many other priorities than family, church and community. Without those things, work friends become the primary influence on the person's life, and so their liberalism tends to rub off on the impressionable. There are exceptions (we live in the DC suburbs,) but they tend to be people who tenaciously stick to church, and especially homeschoolers. Most of the rest are liberal.
It is interesting to me to compare. For example, as an adult I have lived in rural Ohio and Cleveland, outside Binghamton, NY, in rural WV and Clarksburg, WV (a small city) and in 2 DC suburbs. In the country, people take time for talking, for family, cooking and crafts. They spend time just talking in a relaxed way, and enjoying each other. In the cities, people tend to go from event to event, only relaxing to some extent, and then usually with entertainment (TV, movies...) It is a hectic, stressful way of life, filled with much motion and perhaps not much meaning, unless the person sticks to church, or creates artificial meaning (like save the whales.)
Not everyone is like that, but many are, and it might explain some of the differences.


159 posted on 11/03/2004 7:26:42 PM PST by HomeschoolGenealogistMom
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To: BunnySlippers
Oh, cool your jets BS. While one of the biggest groups of Freepers might come from urban California, they still probably amount to ~0.0001% of that urban areas population. In case you hadn't noticed, nearly ALL of the significant major urban COASTAL California areas voted 'Rat. If you'd parsed that a little better you'd note the coastal caveat. I'm in one, I should know. You need to chill...
160 posted on 11/03/2004 7:26:50 PM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent.)
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