Skip to comments.Why do urban centers vote Democrat, and rural Republican?
Posted on 11/03/2004 6:23:56 PM PST by M. Peach
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People who care about property rights get away from cities if they can.
Because urban areas are largely populated by many people who are in many ways on the public dole, and also by uneducated people who fall for liberal "promises" of one sort or another. It's a maddening situation, but we are making some inroads here. It's also the reason why the electoral college exists, so a high density population center cannot dictate policy to rural areas.
They know that if you get masses of asses in to a small area...they are easliy controlled and can be mad to be dependent on government for their survival.
They then work on controlling the center of government to control the rest of the country.
Country Boys can survive!!!!!!!!!
The city dwellers look around them, and behold all that the taxpayer has bought for them; and they want more. Let's face it, city dwellers realize benefits far in excess to their individual tax burden.
They see the Billion dollar subway system, and they want it made new again. I mean, it only costs them 50 cents to ride; and they 'deserve' the best. It's Democrats who take the tax dollars, and spend it so the city dwellers can live in convenience and luxury. Do you think the farmers and people outside the city limits enjoy all that the mighty taxdollar has wrought.
The city dwellers see the handouts, the low income housing, the free clinics, food stores, new roads, sports stadiums; and then do the math. "Hey, I can use the stadium any time I want, and it's cheap for me" is as far as their train of thought will go. They never consider the fact that people on the other side of the state were taxed to build stadiums, airports, roads, free clinics, Planned Parenthood, malls and other things; that these people will neither ever use, or even be told of their existance.
Now, add to that the bums looking for handouts; the Unions who thrive in non-competitive city environments, the students brain-washed by liberal professors; and it all starts to make sense.
Two words: work ethic
Lefties love to be in charge of things, and there are TONS of things to be in charge of in big cities. That doesn't mean they are good at running all those things. They stink. But they don't care. They just loving have stuff to command. Have you ever worked with a lefty in an office? They work in the office like they would work in the Dept. of Crap and Junk. "Here, let me copy this for you." "Here, let me call for a staff meeting."
That's why I now work for myself and moved to Texas, where there is a ton of Red County land.
The big city trade unions indoctrinate the members into thinking that the union is their sole means of support and without the union, they would have no job. (And in some cities that is true - if you are a plumber, you are not going to work in Philly if you are not a union plumber.)
Then you have the government employee unions. The Democrats run the cities and since the unions are in bed with the RATS, it is a symbiotic relationship.
The union mentality is groupthink, and when the union leadership says "vote DemocRat", many of them do.
(I have a friend who is afraid to vote Republican because he thinks the union will find out he did. This is a grown man - and I'm not so sure he's not crazy. I've read stories about how unions check the voter rolls to make sure their members have registered with the "proper" party.)
The rural areas are primarily homeowners. We feel the pinch when the gov't reaches into our pocket. Therefore, we desire a smaller, less intrusive gov't. The urban areas do not pay property taxes and usually get gov't handouts. They then tend to vote for the person who promises them everything. Its call redistribution of wealth or socialism.
Actually I think it is that criminals tend to be demokrats.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."
"Houston doesn't vote republican (not the city itself). The previous mayor (before the current liberal mayor) was a black carpet bagger liberal democrat and he got elected. The outer suburbs are republican, but the city is democrat."
2 words. Sheila Jackson.
What is a "normal American"?
Excellent mini-essay - did you steal any of this from Ann Coulter? This really makes sense.
Urban areas originally spawned social welfare programs. Unfortunately, many consider the entitlement mentality to have evolved from these programs. Out in the rural areas, our forefathers weren't bickering or complaining that government owed them something. Problems were solved by hard work and little dependency on government (not to say that government has never helped).
I believe that cities provide the anonymity necessary to behave without personal accountability.
By contrast, in a small town, or suburb, people often know who you are, who your family is, where you work, etc.
In the city, you're just another face. Or... just another gay man, godless individual, foul-mouthed neanderthal, woman that has an abortion, etc... No one "judges you" because there is no "you." You are anonymous.
Take away accountability, and people tend to do whatever they want, creating a moral and ethical enviornment that is much different than that of smaller communities.
IMHO, of course.
The reason why I was at first liberal was because everybody around me was liberal, and if you were conservative, you were seen as some sort of "race traitor."
Now that I've grown up, paid taxes and have spent 5 years away from public schools, I've simply seen liberalism for the crock that it is.
Generally speaking (and stereotyping of course), the rural folk are raised in a largely self reliant atmosphere with very little need nor desire for government or social assistance.
The opposite is true in densely populated areas (whether urban high crime or not). Densely populated areas simply rely more on a higher degree of governmental "management" and support.
What you write makes sense - I wonder if any study has been done pertaining to I.Q. and/or profession and how it correlates with one's choice of political parties?
Insanity is the norm so it's easy to align with socialist ideology and rhetoric.
Greater density and percentage of people who live off government largesse?
Believe it or not, this is a serious answer to your question. A friend from New York explained it to me a couple of years ago. She said that, basically, because the city of New York is (without question) one of, if not THE, centers of commerce and culture in the world, New Yorkers are raised to believe that it is a very special place and they are very special people. As she said, "We are taught from the day we are born that we are better than other people anywhere". She is not flamboyant, so I believe she was telling me the truth. As to California, it is similar, but with a slightly different twist (I lived there for years, so I can speak to this). There is a definite, deeply ingrained idea that we are smarter because we had the brains to "come in from the cold weather", i.e. anywhere that has four seasons. Believe it or not.
Urban centers vote Democrat because they are filled with democrat leaning minorities (Blacks, Dominican/Puerto Rican Hispanics, Jews, Homosexuals, Irish Catholics).
In the areas of urban centers that are filled with ordinary middle class white Protestants and Italian/German/Polish Catholics, the vote looks just like in rural areas.
Think Staten Island, Northeast Philadelphia, parts of Cincinatti, etc.
Urbanites - get their nails manicured.
Ruralites (is that a word?) cut and haul cedar.
U - never see an animal either give birth or die
R - watch the entire life cycle and understand it, participate in it
U - families are distant things
R - families are who you eat dinner with Sunday after church
U - pay $150,000 for an apartment (guessing on that price)
R - pay $150,000 for 20 acres
Just my first thoughts, not really fleshed out.
Like generally begets like. The brave people who set out on their own into the wilderness usually raised brave offspring; those who were afraid to leave the safety of numbers usually raised cowards who were afraid of their own shadows.
There are a lot of gays who live in the neighborhood. I KNOW gays gravitate to urban high-pop areas for the anonymity. It's tough being gay in a little town.
There are lots and lots and lots and lots of immigrants here in L.A. Yeah, I'm sure that they are living with some public assistance. On the other hand they live around people who have a lot ... in Los Angeles there are people who have nice jobs and a lot of money and flaunt it.
So I think proximity of living, immigrants, poverty-wealth.
BTW, when I was 20 I joined Head Start and lived in a little town of 5,000 people in AZ working on the White River Apache Reservation. Very different. Life is different in small towns.
"In the city, you're just another face. Or... just another gay man, godless individual, foul-mouthed neanderthal, woman that has an abortion, etc... No one "judges you" because there is no "you." You are anonymous. "
But you're not "Just another conservative." in the city. You're a 'Nazi", especially in Minneapolisgrad.
I should add that in days of old before the blacks had moved north from the south, northern non-Irish filled cities were Republican.
anonymity in a crowd & acceptance among similar deviants...
the lunatic fringe are the overall minority yet a congregated majority
Excellent essay - thank you.
The real questions are:
Why did all the conservatives leave the cities? Simply to get away from the liberals. To get away from their rudeness and taxing government.
And, why didn't the liberals follow them? It is more expensive to live out side the cities, and the parasites cannot follow their hosts easily.
Well, Griz, I can only speak for myself. But I was born and raised in Los Angeles ... since the 40's. And it is not a cess pool.
There are terrific advantages to living in a big city ... and a down side. As there are advantages and a down side to living a rural life.
No offense is meant here, just answering the question.
I've noticed an urban stereotype about small towns, that how small towns are bastions of racism. That's the exact opposite of what I've noticed when I travelled to small towns. When I travelled to a small town in rual Minnesota, I was shocked at how friendly the people were. It impressed me so much that now I'm thinking about moving to that town after I establish my buisness down in Florida.
That is accurate. You'll note that urban and suburban areas that are well-kept and low crime are also generally Republican. Its the more run-down, crime-ridden areas that vote Democrat. And for good reason - its the laziest among us that look to others to provide for the needs that they don't wish to provide for themselves.
Urban areas are where all the Social Services are centralized......the base of the Democratic (Socialist / Communist) party.
Having lived, for years, in a rural area.....yet worked across the country in urban areas, it is my opinion that it can be summed up in one phrase.
Urban voters suffer from a type of faux-intellectual elitism.
And that translates into a type of "bleeding" for every type of "cause" they can create. They view themselves as "victims" on every level. And thus if THEY are victims, then of course everyone around them in their urban bubble, is a victim too. And if you view yourself as a victim...you want everyone to make it "all better" for you. In order to make it all better for you.....you have to make it "all better" for everyone else.
I see it as a self-perpetuating cycle of mutual victimhood that feeds on itself.
I thin kyou may be onto something here. At the same time I am appalled at some of the absolutely ignorant comments I see on this thread!
Put another way, those of us in the red zone are the wagon pullers, and the blue zone denizens are the ones riding in the wagon. Oh yeah, and the guilt ridden 2nd & 3rd generation wagon owners, who are also blue, live in palaces in the blue zone, ruling over their parasite sheep-like subjects.
Cities contain greater concentrations of "the entitled" who are bought off by the rats entitlement programs.
STILL hasn't been called on the Fox website!
"Actually, what Murray and Hernstien said about IQs in urban areas is that they are higher than in less densely populated areas, not lower. You should have read that book more carefully before quoting it, but then, it was a big book."
I read it entirely, about nine years ago.
I was trying to be sarcastically funny, about democrats being low IQ. Actually I think democrats attract both the lowest and highest IQ (if same can be guaged by education).
Rural = self reliance, individualism, private property, broader experience, common sense
Urban = crowd thinking, gang mentality (us vs. them), survival instincts, community property, fight for yourself because nobody else cares