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Other Networks' Election Loss Is Fox News's Big Gain
Washington Post ^ | 11/04/04 | Lisa de Moraes

Posted on 11/04/2004 7:03:00 AM PST by Pikamax

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To: truthandlife

Goawd!!! Fox needs more "spice?!" Yikes. Maybe add teletubbie graphics to an already massively overloaded and obnoxious screen? I love Special Report and Cavuto, but the rest of it causes me a reflex reaction to hit "OFF."


21 posted on 11/04/2004 7:15:08 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Pikamax

once they pulled the plug on the exit polls data they were the first to call Ohio!! and the election


22 posted on 11/04/2004 7:16:13 AM PST by rang1995
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To: truthandlife

I wish Tony Snow had been included. Maybe they could have rotated? Surprisingly, I am getting to like Chris Wallace. He could have been rotated also.

Juan needed to be there all the time though. I just loved watching his "deer in the headlight" eyes.


23 posted on 11/04/2004 7:16:47 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Can I git me some morals here?)
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To: jwalsh07

I've gotta agree. Barone was excellent and got better & better the later it got.


24 posted on 11/04/2004 7:17:06 AM PST by r.d.neck
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To: Pikamax
Interesting. They lost me at 7 p.m. I only monitored FR after that time.

Fox coverage on Special Report told me all I needed to know about the rest of the night's coverage, and I didn't feel like killing another TV.

26 posted on 11/04/2004 7:18:57 AM PST by mombonn ( ¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Quick1

I heard this a.m. that ol' Dan has called Ms. Mapes to get her input...he may be considering calling Ohio for W.


27 posted on 11/04/2004 7:19:28 AM PST by r.d.neck
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To: Goodwillhntg
"i remain mildly pissed about FOXnot having the nards to call the election when NV was clearly Bush's, but a few FREEPER comments have me back to taking big breaths and thinking of calmer thoughts."

It was mentioned on Fox that the margin of error had to be ... 300 to 1 ... before they would announce any results.

28 posted on 11/04/2004 7:19:43 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Pikamax

IMHO Fox was a bit cowardly. They refused to give Nevada to Bush until word of Kerry's concession came down. Clearly they were afraid to call the election for Bush out of a fear of being branded the GOP Channel. But facts are facts, and that is what the news channels are supposed to report. If Bush won Nevada report it. It has nothing to do with a potential contest over Ohio.


30 posted on 11/04/2004 7:20:50 AM PST by The Hound Passer
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To: sam_paine

I am not talking about the graphics, I am talking about the format. I liked CNN's big screen format but Larry King as the old senile father in the crowd was hilarious.

MSNBC had an awful panel except for Joe Scarborough but the crowd in the background gave the show some energy. I don't think there is any way FOX could do this because the leftist would do something stupid and could be harmful to the staff.

FOX had no energy in the show and needed something. No more graphics please.


31 posted on 11/04/2004 7:21:17 AM PST by truthandlife (http://www.neverforgetneveragain.com -- If you want Bush re-elected pass on this video link!!!!)
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To: liberateUS
I've read and heard that exit polls don't lie because they are after the fact. They were trusting in those polls and the actual results were throwing them off.

I can feel a small pang of compassion for SKerry. Can you imagine, he probably went through most of the afternoon just knowing he was going to win and then the truth hit, ha, ha. Okay, maybe I don't feel bad.

32 posted on 11/04/2004 7:23:17 AM PST by tiki (Win one against the Flipper)
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To: GOP_Proud; jwalsh07
Barone and Barnes with poor little Mort in the middle. That's a blood sport I'm comfortable with!

Then cutaway to Charles Krauthammer beat the hell outta Juanie Whiner Williams!!! Oh. I guess they already do that.

33 posted on 11/04/2004 7:24:09 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Poor little Jrong Juan...again.


34 posted on 11/04/2004 7:25:23 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Can I git me some morals here?)
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To: Goodwillhntg

i remain mildly pissed about FOX not having the nards to call the election when NV was clearly Bush's, but a few FREEPER comments have me back to taking big breaths and thinking of calmer thoughts.. go GW!!<<<<<<<<<


I am with you on this. They had the little roundish male appendages to call OHIO and stick to it and then didn't have it to REPORT NV after 100% of the vote was counted because it would have put Bush over. It was excrutiating to watch them intentionally avoid even talking about NV while they agonized about NM and IA.


35 posted on 11/04/2004 7:27:03 AM PST by politicalmerc (I just want to make ignorance painful.)
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To: dotnetfellow

I totally agree. I've been saying this for years. In a short time, ABC, NBC and CBS would be eating FOX's dust.


36 posted on 11/04/2004 7:27:19 AM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: Tragically Single
I agree, but poor old Brit. He was gobsmacked when Juan Williams went into the kook theory about Karl Rove being responsible for the early (false) exit poll data.

(Put Brit Hume voice here):

"Er, er, ah, ah, ah, . . . Juan, are you saying, . . . er, ah, are you saying KARL ROVE released this data? Ah, er, ah, . . . are you saying THAT?"

37 posted on 11/04/2004 7:27:48 AM PST by LS
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To: sam_paine

I couldn't agree more. I watch Fox not for spice but for the news. I love Brit Hume for that reason. I watched other stations for comparison but none compared to FNC. Not even close. Fox's graphics were more precise and easier to read with more info. They caught on early in the evening that the exit poll stats were bogus and threw them away. Mort actually read what the exit polls were saying so that their listeners would understand what was going on. They're not supposed to do that and Bill Kristol gave him dirty looks a plenty. Great TV! And I do agree with everyone that Michael Barone was stellar.


38 posted on 11/04/2004 7:27:58 AM PST by twigs
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To: Pikamax

I thought FOX was horrble Tuesday night. I was watching the roundtable and thought it was a eulogy for Bush. They got totally tricked by the exit polls, they should have known they would be worthless.


39 posted on 11/04/2004 7:28:29 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Tragically Single

Brit looked tired. But considering he had probably already worked a full day before ever sitting down in the anchor chair on Tuesday evening, I can see why.

Most of his work, starting in the evening, came at an hour of the clock where he is usually not on the air. He also worked until 3:00 a.m. EST.

In short - I don't blame him for being tired.


40 posted on 11/04/2004 7:28:33 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Gloating? Us? Well, okay.)
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