[Positive]

"Trade what? I think in order to trade you might have to actually produce something of value. I don't know if there is a market for poverty, misery and strife."

I think I like you riri - you absolutely nailed this one.

If the left and right coasts became stand alone nations, their government, tax codes and demographics would caused them to degenerated into Mexico like countries.

[GSlob]

"If the left and right coasts became stand alone nations, their government, tax codes and demographics would caused them to degenerated into Mexico like countries."
Indeed, but for the sake of Western Civ military industry in California, Hanford nuclear reservation in WA, and other similar assets like Raytheon are to be specifically excluded from Northeastistan and Pacificstan. I would have hard time trusting them with this kind of stuff.