Skip to comments.Help California Secede!
Posted on 11/04/2004 4:28:16 PM PST by AZChick
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I say kick the entire Bay Area Out out, we can work with the rest of the state if that were to happen.
The Left Coast can go where ever they want - as long as they take their ideals with them.
California is the 5th largest economy in the world no go. Plus the Republic of Texas might take their cue, and then the seperatists in idaho and montana. In theory though I say bye bye
How about "Make Mexico take San Francisco Back"
Better yet "San Francisco Leftist Out of US!"
Placer County California 4 out of 5 voters voted George W. Bush.
I will pray for the Big One to roll San Francisco into the Pacific. -- Mother Mary Frances
Hell, yeah! I'd love to see California try to secede. It's about damned time this part of the country got liberated by PRO-AMERICAN forces!
Actually this is progress back when I lived in So Cal, there was the joke about having two California/s with a passport needed for Northern Cal folk to come across the border. It's now down to just SF.
I say we just let them put up a fence around every blue area on the map. No reason to give them huge chunks of the country when they only occupy small spots.
When they ask how they will feed themselves just reply "Don't know, don't care"
I've said many times that what we really need to do is introduce a constitutional amendment kicking them out. Actually, you don't need to kick out the whole state of CA. Just kick out the big coastal cities like SF and LA, and problem solved. Heck, we might even get CA to sign onto that one. Certainly the rest of the country would be sorely tempted.
We can charge tem obscene tarriffs.
Bush should threaten to pull all military and government aid out of Ca and see how quick it would become a third world nation.
We all should know that seceding is not legal.
We need to learn about purging or expulsion.
As in the California Bay city states should be purged.
Excuse me! It's the coastal counties that are in the "blue" zone. Most of the others are conservative.
Look at the voting map, Democrats are concentrated in SF area, and LA. A better solution would be to divide the state in half, long ways, perhaps we could keep San Diego.
Take a look at any county-by-county breakdown: lots of California is red. If they want SF, that's perfectly all right with me. Maybe this will be the "state" the addlebrained Cher told her gayboy friends that Bush would send them to adter his relection.
Tell me again, how did the seige of Leningrad work?
We'd be OK out here if we could just get rid of Sodom and Gomorrah (aka SF and LA).
As a proud Southerner, I say make them howl: Sack their property and loot their homes before burning them to the ground! Then disenfranchise them while raising the taxes on their property; if they cannot pay in gold, sell the property at auction to carpetbaggers who move in. Then place troops in their treets and unqualified officials in their governmental bodies--then make them take loyalty oaths to be admitted back!
I am a Californian of more than three generations, living on the east coast now. I remember when the City was a great place- a little bit eccentric- but still a terrific place to be. It just kills me to listen to the crap on that website and others like it coming from 'Californians' who almost invariably moved there from somewhere else.
It's far worse now than it ever been.
I just wish my company would move out of San Francisco. I'm sick of having to go there five days a week. :(
Please o please o PLEASE let all the Left Coast weirdos leave.
I have to chuckle every year this topic comes about. I am in Northern Califonia our county (Butte) over welmingly votd for Bush, The problem is redistricting, the democrat liberals in the bill mill (Sacramento, to non Californians)
have designed all districts or most districts to go democrat. Had to laugh yesterday when some pundit took "The Hammer" Delay to task for redictricting Texas, to the advantage for republicans, interesting it seems to be alright for democrats but not republicans.
How about only the blue counties of California...
I second the wall theroy. Living in WA the only place that needs to be walled up is the Seattle proper area. The rest of king county and the state are fine. Go by the county by county map and we are good to go.
Kerry's Alternate Concession speech:
I concede that I overestimated the intelligence of the American
people. Though the people disagree with the President on almost every
issue, [they] saw fit to vote for him. I never saw that coming...
I concede that I misjudged the power of hate. That's pretty powerful
stuff, and I didn't see it. So let me take a moment to congratulate
the President's strategists: Putting the gay marriage amendments on
the ballot in various swing states like Ohio... well, that was just
genius. Genius. It got people, a certain kind of people, to the polls.
The unprecedented number of folks who showed up and cited "moral
values" as their biggest issue, those people changed history. The
folks who consider same sex marriage a more important issue than war,
or terrorism, or the economy... Who'd have thought the election would
belong to them? Well, Karl Rove did...
There are some who would say that I sound bitter, that now is the time
for healing, to bring the nation together. Let me tell you a little
story. Last night, I watched the returns come in with some friends
here in Los Angeles. As the night progressed, people began to talk
half-seriously about secession, a red state / blue state split. The
reasoning was this: We in blue states produce the vast majority of the
wealth in this country and pay the most taxes, and you in the red
states receive the majority of the money from those taxes while
complaining about 'em. We in the blue states are the only ones who've
been attacked by foreign terrorists, yet you in the red states are
gung ho to fight a war in our name. We in the blue states produce the
entertainment that you consume so greedily each day, while you in the
red states show open disdain for us and our values. Blue state
civilians are the actual victims and targets of the war on terror,
while red state civilians are the ones standing behind us and yelling
"Oh, yeah!? Bring it on!"
More than 40% of you Bush voters still believe that Saddam Hussein had
something to do with 9/11. I'm impressed by that, truly I am. Your
sons and daughters who might die in this war know it's not true, the
people in the urban centers where al Qaeda wants to attack know it's
not true, but those of you who are at practically no risk believe this
easy lie because you can. As part of my concession speech, let me say
that I really envy that luxury. I concede that.
Healing? We, the people at risk from terrorists, the people who
subsidize you, the people who speak in glowing and respectful terms
about the heartland of America while that heartland insults and
excoriates us... we wanted some healing. We spoke loud and clear. And
you refused to give it to us, largely because of your high moral
values. You knew better: America doesn't need its allies, doesn't need
to share the burden, doesn't need to unite the world, doesn't need to
provide for its future. Hell no. Not when it's got a human shield of
pointy-headed, atheistic, unconfrontational breadwinners who are
willing to pay the bills and play nice in the vain hope of winning a
vote that we can never have. Because we're "morally inferior," I
suppose, we are supposed to respect your values while you insult ours.
And the big joke here is that for 20 years, we've done just that.
...This time I will not pretend that the simple folk of America know
just as much as the people who devote their lives to serving and
studying the nation and the world. They don't.
Can we build a hugh wall topped with electrified concertina wiredown the border??!!!!
Oh, just great. They secede and the next day apply for foreign aid from US.
I can see it now. Hordes of illegal Friscan immigrants washing up on the beaches of Oregon.
Oh, the humanity.
I myself will help chainsaw the entire state of Calicommiea from the rest of the US, float it out to sea and watch it sink in it's own smug, condescending hubris and arrogance.
I lived in SF 4 years and hated it. LA is still somewhat cool, but bad traffic.
Is this "Atlas" about to shrug?
Heaven help us all!
California is a beautiful state. Put the Leftists on boats and send them down to Cuba, where they'd be happier, and then the conservatives can get away from places like Sea**hole and all its citiots and live in a nice, warm, sunny state. Come to think of it, put the Sea**holes on the boats, too. I'd be able to tolerate the rain and wouldn't have to move.
Not surprising. Like little babies in a pickup game of basketball, they whine and stomp and complain when they don't get their way. Then they threaten to take their ball and go home.
Why do I still live in this area?
Look at an electoral map. Most of the state is okay. It's just the Bay area, and the LA area.
I know this post is a joke but I've live in the East Bay all my life and it is still a great place to live.....It is really S.F., LA. Oakland and Bezerkely that are the flaming liberal idiots....the rest of the East bay my br more demo but not flaming liberals......most of calif is somewhat conservative, after all, we did vote to make marriage between man and woman and voted for no benefits for illeagal aliens though it was ruled unconstitutional by the left wing supreme court.........hey, i believe Illinois and New York and the New England states had a higher percentage of votes for Kerry than California........they are much much worse than the ENTIRE state of california.....there, that is my 2 cents though you are totally right about the city fo SF.........nice place to visit actually but i wouldn't want to live there for sure
Well, they can secede as long as they are willing to put up with the house burning and the silverware stealing that goes along with it. They set the precedent. March to the sea, through Massachusetts.
In all seriousness, California is a BIG problem. Within the next 20-30 years, it could swell to 70 or more electoral votes. Any candidate who wins this state has 25% of what he/she needs. This is pretty disturbing.
I agree with NetSurfer - only half of California needs to succeed - the western half! My county voted for the President, 62%! Better than many Texas counties. I am sick of the Republicans writing us off. A few years back there was an initiative to split the state - north and south. It should have been - east to west. Look back to CA history - CA originally wanted to join the Union as TWO states, but they were not allowed to because of the slavery issue. The wimps in Congress wanted to keep the pro-slavery/against-slavery factions evenly divided so they wouldn't have to deal with the issue. It's time to DEAL WITH IT! At the very least we should have an initiative that splits our electoral college vote based on popular vote. The dems are always screaming about "DISENFRANCHISED VOTERS". How about the millions of conservative CA voters who never have their vote counted in national elections?
No, not all of the western half. Plenty of good old GOP here on the coast: Ventura, San Diego and Orange counties. We don't plan on seceding with the wing nuts in SF and LA.
I am all for it. I have been saying for years that CA needs to be kicked out of the Union. One state with 55 electoral votes and ideals that seem to come from Mars is dangerous.
No offense meant to any Californians who don't fall into the "Mars" crowd.
Give the entire coastal mountains from Salinas to Oregon to the Ducks in Oregon. The gross national production will be built around smoking dope and feeling superior.
I am a former resident of: San Clemente, La Jolla, Miramar, and San Luis Obisbo. All I can tell you is... MOVE, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! You don't want to be caught in Sodom and Gomorrah... err, umm I mean San Fransisco and Los Angeles, when they go up in cinders to pay for their crimes against humanity. MOVE NOW! You will be more than welcomed in California's version of "Fly-Over Country"!