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Help California Secede!
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Posted on 11/04/2004 4:28:16 PM PST by AZChick

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To: anonsquared

I think part of the problem is the republican party committe chairman in this state. Sundheim for example. Why in the world did they promote Bill Jones, then when he was elected in the primary ignore him??EGAD! my neighbor could have done a bette job against Babs Boxer. As I posted earlier another part of the problem is redistricting the state is redistricted to suit the democrat.


51 posted on 11/04/2004 8:17:49 PM PST by Burlem
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To: aft_lizard
I say kick the entire Bay Area Out out, we can work with the rest of the state if that were to happen.

Thanks for your post. Those who hate all Californians and think we are all liberal are very misguided. If you look at the red/blue map, you will see that it's pretty much ony the cities along the coast of California that voted against President Bush.


52 posted on 11/04/2004 8:21:47 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: anonsquared

I'm already in the friendly part :)


53 posted on 11/04/2004 8:30:15 PM PST by NetSurfer (All your provisional ballots are belong to us.)
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To: xrp; lawgirl
In all seriousness, California is a BIG problem. Within the next 20-30 years, it could swell to 70 or more electoral votes. Any candidate who wins this state has 25% of what he/she needs. This is pretty disturbing.

You are right, it's a big problem when four million (plus a few) people voted for Bush in this state and Bush didn't get one single Electoral College vote. Talk about disenfranchised! We who live in the conservative part of California feel like our vote doesn't count.

What needs to be done is either break California into two states (East California and West California) or to give out the Electoral Votes proportionally, according to how the state is split percentage wise. I'm not holding my breath though.

54 posted on 11/04/2004 8:30:59 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: AZChick

They can have San Francisco. Take down the bridges connecting to the mainland and they need a passport to visit the mainland...


55 posted on 11/04/2004 8:32:26 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mtngrl@vrwc

Proportional distribution of the electoral vote would favor the left and severely dilute the need for even having states, sorta like going all popular vote only.


56 posted on 11/04/2004 8:37:20 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: xrp
Um.....okay. However, it does seem ironic that such a small part of the state (granted, it's highly populated) can give all fifty-five of California's Electoral College votes to Kerry and that this huge block of conservative voters, over four million who voted for Bush, have no sway over who wins the Golden State's EV votes.

So what do you think should be done? As it stands right now, whoever wins California already has a fifth of the Electoral College Votes needed to win the presidency. Amazing.

57 posted on 11/04/2004 8:44:25 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: xrp
Um.....okay. However, it does seem ironic that such a small part of the state (granted, it's highly populated) can give all fifty-five of California's Electoral College votes to Kerry and that this huge block of conservative voters, over four million who voted for Bush, have no sway over who wins the Golden State's EV votes.

So what do you think should be done? As it stands right now, whoever wins California already has a fifth of the Electoral College Votes needed to win the presidency. Amazing.

58 posted on 11/04/2004 8:45:15 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: mtngrl@vrwc

Split California into West and East, or even North and South. I think conservatives could take South California. What gives California to the left is the San Francisco Bay area, not so much the Los Angeles area.


59 posted on 11/04/2004 8:51:52 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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To: AZChick

This site is called "US out of San Francisco." It lists a petition site seeking to allow CA or just SF, I'm not too clear, to secede. What is the point, these people would be too chicken to defend their country.


60 posted on 11/04/2004 8:55:07 PM PST by oldbrowser (the people have spoken............loud and clear)
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To: xrp
Yeah, that would be a good thing (East CA and West CA), but I don't see that happening with the 'rats controlling the state government here. They know they have a good thing going.

An East California would overwhelmingly vote for the Republican candidate. That would make the 'rats have to work a little harder to win the presidency.

61 posted on 11/04/2004 9:01:44 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc ( We cannot change the direction of the wind... but we can adjust our sails.)
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To: Riley
I know I grew up in California, I loved it dearly. It was a beautiful state. My brother lived in San Jose and I worked in the City for awhile. I lived in Aptos and took the train from San Jose to the City. Yes I know what you mean. It began to change rather drastically after Dukmejian left office.

When I was transferred to TEXAS I didn't no what to expect. But Texas is my home and strangely enough just as beautiful as California. California left me. and Texas adopted me. I'm home

62 posted on 11/05/2004 3:59:46 AM PST by marty60
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To: aft_lizard

I'll sign it.


63 posted on 11/05/2004 4:31:53 AM PST by daddyOwe (If God wanted me to be a liberal he would of given me less brains)
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To: AZChick

I love liberals. California's loss would be no big deal to the country. Bush was re-elected despite the opposition of the people of this state to his Presidency.


64 posted on 11/05/2004 4:34:09 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Betis70

Why do you think they call it "Whine country?"


65 posted on 11/05/2004 4:41:39 AM PST by TN4Liberty (The difference between a dead democrat and a live democrat is that the dead one only votes once.)
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To: highflight

There is a very good book I think called the "The 900 days" that details how it worked.

Bottom line, if the body of water to the city's rear hadn't frozen over to allow transport in and out, the German's would have suceeded.


66 posted on 11/05/2004 4:57:41 AM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: RightWingMama

Yes; hence the term Left "coast"! North, East or West!


67 posted on 11/05/2004 12:25:19 PM PST by raivyn (I love the smell of FUMING LIBERALS in the morning, but I hate the noise. (Don't you?))
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