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The last word on Bush’s bulge (strap holding his bulletproof vest in place)
The Hill ^ | November 4, 2004 | Albert Eisele and Jeff Dufour

Posted on 11/04/2004 9:41:43 PM PST by NavySEAL F-16

The last word on Bush’s bulge

Call off the conspiracy freaks. Now it can be told: That mysterious bulge on President Bush’s back during the first presidential debate was not an electronic device feeding him answers, but a strap holding his bulletproof vest in place.

Speculation about the bulge on the Internet only increased since Georges de Paris, the Washington tailor who makes Bush’s suits, told The Hill last month that it was nothing more than a pucker on the back of Bush’s coat caused when he crossed his arms.

But sources in the Secret Service told The Hill that Bush was wearing a bulletproof vest, as he does most of the time when appearing in public. The president’s handlers did not want to admit as much during the campaign, for fear of disclosing information related to his personal security while he was on the campaign trail.

The suspicion that Bush was, indeed, wearing something under his coat was given further credence by Dr. Robert M. Nelson, a senior research scientist for NASA and Caltech’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and an international authority on image analysis, who conducted tests while working at home on his own computers.

“I am willing to stake my scientific reputation to the statement that Bush was wearing something under his jacket during the debate,” Nelson told Salon.com. “This is not about a bad suit. And there’s no way the bulge can be described as a wrinkled shirt.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bodyarmor; bulge; bush; firstdebate; gwb2004
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Now, will the DU conspiracy theorists believe this?
1 posted on 11/04/2004 9:41:43 PM PST by NavySEAL F-16
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Screw 'em, tell 'em to shove it.


2 posted on 11/04/2004 9:43:02 PM PST by debboo (Stop socialism, vote conservative)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Tell 'em to take a flying-freak at a rolling donut.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 9:47:25 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Now let's get back to video of the white paper Kerry clearly removed from his pocket while his back was to the audience, then unfolded and placed on his podium.


4 posted on 11/04/2004 9:47:26 PM PST by Sisku Hanne (Deprogramming the left, one truth at a time.)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

"hard work...hard work..."


5 posted on 11/04/2004 9:48:27 PM PST by PhotoFixer3
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Who cares now, heh, I wish he was wearing a wire now and shoved it in all their faces and laughs about it. Tell them it is a special device to hear God's voice, that would piss them off, he doesn't have to worry about reelection now. Screw unity, it is time to kill the rats off, why try to build them back up so they can do some damage in 2008?
6 posted on 11/04/2004 9:49:17 PM PST by lord of the righties
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To: NavySEAL F-16

I hope that President Bush does not think that he no longer needs that vest.


7 posted on 11/04/2004 9:51:37 PM PST by right way right
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To: NavySEAL F-16
As an ex-cop I suspected body armor, but it would not have been a useful thing to do to plaster that all over the web.

It probably was robust armor with enough Kevlar layers to stop rounds on the order of 10mm.

8 posted on 11/04/2004 9:51:51 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Ok, THIS is what the "buldge" was. Are the rats happy they know now?

9 posted on 11/04/2004 9:53:14 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: quidnunc

Remember, Kerry had joked about bringing a rifle to the debates. Better safe than sorry.


10 posted on 11/04/2004 9:53:25 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: NavySEAL F-16

11 posted on 11/04/2004 9:53:32 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: NavySEAL F-16
A strap ? That still doesn't make sense based on the pictures, including the one in his pickup truck on his ranch.
Does President Bush have back problems ? maybe it's TENS type device.
12 posted on 11/04/2004 9:53:38 PM PST by stylin19a (It's called GOLF because all the other 4 letter words were taken)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

We had multiple people here on FR (law enforcement) make the correct call regarding the bullet proof vest, within minutes of the DU and other idiots putting forward the obviously "grand" idea that he was wearing a wire. Afterall- he's a Christian, and everybody knows that Christians wear wires when they are on a stage.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 9:54:53 PM PST by PokeyJoe (The United State of Texas.... I like the sound of it..)
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To: stylin19a

and another thing....Why is the SS talking about the president ?


16 posted on 11/04/2004 9:57:59 PM PST by stylin19a (It's called GOLF because all the other 4 letter words were taken)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

No, No, No. It was a sophisticated electronic communication device, weighing 12 pounds and measuring 12 x 15 inches. Bush was using it to communicate with somebody, maybe Christians or something, not sure. But it was there and all...


17 posted on 11/04/2004 9:59:22 PM PST by daguberment ("Kin I git me a huntin license he'a?")
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To: PokeyJoe

looks like a bullet proof vest to me under his clothes.
That is what I thought and said all along.


18 posted on 11/04/2004 10:00:06 PM PST by TruthCanHurt
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To: stylin19a
For purposes of comfort he may have been wearing a vest with a front panel only because he was facing the audience all the time.

The picture above is from the second debate and if you know what to look for you can see the outline of the vest's back panel.

19 posted on 11/04/2004 10:01:34 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

We've known this almost from the day it was even brought up. Someone here at FR....said it was his bullet proof vest. He's was highly protected during this campaign; with all the crazy liberal loons/goons out there. Thank God he's protected in this manner. ;o)


20 posted on 11/04/2004 10:03:10 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

From the beginning this has shown the diminished mental capacity of the baboons masquerading as elite thinkers on the left.

Modern electronics have been so miniaturized, he could have worn 20 receivers and one would not have seen them.

Even assuming that the secret service has fallen way behind and had to use a device that big, why would they put it in the back instead of at the waist?

The way the dims have jumped on this issue betrays a level of incompetence bordering on mental illness and frankly may also explain why they continue to be clueless about the reason for their sound defeat.


21 posted on 11/04/2004 10:05:12 PM PST by mwilli20 (Now... should Kerry be investigated for his crimes?)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

It was obvious and quickly, if discretly pointed out, sometimes the "intelligence of the internet" drops to the kindergarden level


22 posted on 11/04/2004 10:06:17 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: stylin19a

Damn that's a nice pic of GW in his truck - he's a good lookin' man !!


23 posted on 11/04/2004 10:11:28 PM PST by Rainmist (VIVA BUSH !!!! I miss you Daddy ! 03/22/18 - 07/25/96)
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To: quidnunc

Are there different thicknesses/strengths of bullet-proof vests for different purposes? The only bullet-proof vests I've ever recognized are the ones worn by highway patrol troopers in uniform, and they are so bulky that even my untrained eye can spot them a long way off.


24 posted on 11/04/2004 10:18:39 PM PST by Huntress
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To: NavySEAL F-16
In the world of BULGE:

I think that I'd RATHER get the final difinitive on what exactly that BULGE was on The Silky Pony's upper LIP. Now THAT'S a BULGE that lends cause to insight massive, confused, stunned, media spot-lighting FREAK-OUT.

We NEVER got a CLEAR, OFFICIAL RESPONSE/DIAGNOSIS on that THANG.

THAT'S the bulge that caught MY attention. Now don't be in denial and say that it didn't catch yours.

And you can't tell me that it was a lip-plumping, beautifying, lip gloss enhancing, collagen injection gone bad. He would have SUED if it was.

25 posted on 11/04/2004 10:22:44 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: quidnunc
I believe you are right. Something like this ?
26 posted on 11/04/2004 10:23:41 PM PST by stylin19a (It's called GOLF because all the other 4 letter words were taken)
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To: stylin19a
And Stylin, you are STY-LIN in that AWESOME pic (be still my heart) of Dub in his pick-up. Thank you for my late night pitter-patter.

MAN. PURE MAN. MANLY MAN. HUNK-O-MAN. MAN'S MAN. HIS OWN MAN. MAN OF GOD. MAN FOR ALL SEASONS. MAN OF CONVICTION. MAN OF LOVE FOR FAMILY. M-A-N.

THE COUNTRY'S MAN.

27 posted on 11/04/2004 10:28:39 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: Miss Behave
I'd like to add that the same is true of our FREEPER MEN.

MANLY MEN. THEIR OWN MEN. MAN'S MEN. OUR COUNTRY'S MEN.

TRULY and THANKFULLY.

28 posted on 11/04/2004 10:33:45 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: Miss Behave

Oh my gawd! That thing on Little Johnny's face drove me nuts!!!! I swear it bobbled when he talked.


29 posted on 11/04/2004 10:36:38 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: stylin19a

its the side strap and the upper shoulder peice poking up. look at a peice of class 2a armor on the back and you will see it, its not the most flexible thing in the world. You can clearly see the edges of the panel on the vest, as most vests have about the same profile as a "wife beater" shirt without the shoulder straps.


30 posted on 11/04/2004 10:38:30 PM PST by melkor (http://www.blender.com/audio/ted_nugent.wma)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

“I am willing to stake my scientific reputation to the statement that Bush was wearing something under his jacket during the debate,” Nelson told Salon.com.

Mr. Nelson: Your "scientific reputation" has probably been damaged by your speaking to salon.com.


31 posted on 11/04/2004 10:40:10 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you plenty of hints that He exists...)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

32 posted on 11/04/2004 10:40:43 PM PST by classmuse500
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To: Huntress

yeah from class 1 to class 5 ive seen the class 5 take an AK barrage at point blank, the coast guard uses them for boarding armor. Class 1 wont stop most handgun rounds, mainly for knives and the like. Most common is 2A which will stop most moderate handgun rounds.


33 posted on 11/04/2004 10:41:31 PM PST by melkor (http://www.blender.com/audio/ted_nugent.wma)
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To: stylin19a

Thats is exactly what it was, because I wore one for over 10 years while I was a deputy sheriff, and it made a bulge in the back. Uncomfortable things too!


34 posted on 11/04/2004 10:43:33 PM PST by carolinaoutdoorsman
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To: CAluvdubya
"Oh my gawd! That thing on Little Johnny's face drove me nuts!!!! I swear it bobbled when he talked."

Praise the Lord that we'll no longer be subjected to such VISUAL ABUSE. Can we sue HIM for agony and mental anguish?

35 posted on 11/04/2004 10:50:59 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: melkor
forgive my horrid paint skills, the white is the straps, the red is the kevlar pad.
36 posted on 11/04/2004 10:51:03 PM PST by melkor (http://www.blender.com/audio/ted_nugent.wma)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Those idiot kook leftists, we knew it was a bulletproof vest the whole time!!


37 posted on 11/04/2004 10:52:09 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Halliburton razed the rainforests in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan -John Kerry '04 /Sarcasm)
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To: Huntress
Huntress wrote: Are there different thicknesses/strengths of bullet-proof vests for different purposes? The only bullet-proof vests I've ever recognized are the ones worn by highway patrol troopers in uniform, and they are so bulky that even my untrained eye can spot them a long way off.

Yes, the level of protection depends on how many layers of the fabric Kevlar are in the vest.

Some maximum-protection tactical vests such as SWAT or bomb-squad officers wear also have steel or ceramic inserts.

Any armor is a trade-off between comfort, mobility unobtrusiveness and protection.

A uniformed officer wouldn't be concerned about unobtrusiveness since a perp would be expecting him to wear a vest.

However an undercover guy or a businessman would wear one which was not so obvious but which offered less protection.

Vests are uncomfortable and ungodly hot to wear, but they're infinitely better than taking a round in the giblets.

38 posted on 11/04/2004 10:53:21 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Miss Behave
I, although bashing The Silky Pony, would like to offer my prayers for his wife and for him that her health will improve, and her cancer be treated to erradication. It's a subject very near to my heart. I now feel bad in injecting John Edwards--I'm just punchy/silly in my late-nite fade.

Just wanted to mention that.

39 posted on 11/04/2004 10:55:25 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: NavySEAL F-16

That's exactly what I've told everyone who has mentioned that to me! I have seen that same "bulge" every single time I've watched him board AirForce I, and many other times when he is in public and we've caught glimpses of his back. For years I've seen that bulge and when all of this conspiracy crap hit the fan after the debates, I couldn't believe more people hadn't noticed it before!


40 posted on 11/04/2004 10:57:33 PM PST by Chena (Military Mom and RELIEVED and THANKFUL that George W. Bush WON!)
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To: Huntress

The type lae enforcement officers wear are designed to stop handgun rounds, but will not stop a high poweres rifle or an edged weapon. I think the kind that the President wears, will stop almost anything.


41 posted on 11/04/2004 10:59:09 PM PST by carolinaoutdoorsman
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Now, will the DU conspiracy theorists believe this?

Who care what they believe. They're a lost cause anyway.

42 posted on 11/04/2004 11:01:15 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: NavySEAL F-16

The DUmmies will probably be upset that sKerry didn't warrant a bulletproof vest. Why would the terrorists take out one of their best allies?


43 posted on 11/04/2004 11:01:35 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Democrats rushed to nomination without a plan to win the election.)
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To: carolinaoutdoorsman

Don't know if the vest would stop Helen Thomas's nose if she were to run smack-dab into him. Did they stress test for such an encounter?


44 posted on 11/04/2004 11:01:43 PM PST by Miss Behave (Thermos Kerry: "You want hot? I'm FOR it. You want cold? I'm FOR it. It's my Secret Plan.")
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To: NavySEAL F-16

the dems should of ask me
i said it was a bullet proof vest because it looked like my husbands


45 posted on 11/04/2004 11:02:36 PM PST by RightWingBev
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To: Miss Behave

Not sure with that one, ROTFL


46 posted on 11/04/2004 11:04:24 PM PST by carolinaoutdoorsman
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To: NavySEAL F-16
Everyone has got it wrong. President George W. Bush was packing heat. That is part of a newfangled comfortable side holster. The picture from the truck makes it even more obvious. You know he is carrying in that picture! That other guy does a lame goose hunting photo op. HeL! W had a pistol at the debates.
47 posted on 11/04/2004 11:24:19 PM PST by mailbox1282000 (He was packing heat.)
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To: stylin19a

It's a ceramic armor plate.


48 posted on 11/04/2004 11:32:29 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Sisku Hanne
I am now convinced that was his wifes medication list.
49 posted on 11/05/2004 12:43:54 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: stylin19a

Looks like a bullet proof vest that squares off just below the neck to me on both pictures. Seems consistent to me.


50 posted on 11/05/2004 12:55:27 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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