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OUT-OF-TOUCH KERRY NOW OUT OF CHANCES (not comfortable in a trailer park---like Clinton)
NY POST ^ | November 4, 2004 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 11/05/2004 1:37:00 AM PST by Liz

President Bush won the White House because he understands it's hip to be square.

Bush knows what he stands for and connects with mainstream Americans across a cultural divide that Democrat John Kerry just can't reach.

The president won re-election far from the fancy Manhattan dinner tables where pampered liberals love to ridicule him as a dummy, out in rural and exurban areas where Americans still think it's right to talk about loving God and country.

He won in places where campaigning with Red Sox World Series hero Curt Schilling trumps Bruce Springsteen or Jon Bon Jovi any time, and Whoopi Goldberg was never seen as funny, even before her obscene anti-Bush rant at a Kerry cash bash.

He won in tiny towns where no one dreams of dining with Bush-hating billionaire George Soros, you don't need to borrow a gun to go goose hunting, and opposing gay marriage is seen as standing up for traditional values.

"Most people in America don't windsurf and don't snowboard. Kerry's problem wasn't about his thoughts or issues as much as it was his inability to connect," said Democratic strategist David Doak.

"Democrats get in trouble with candidates from the liberal elite, of noblesse oblige, who talk about, 'Oh gee, I'm going to help the poor people,' " Doak added.

As he sees it, the Democratic Party is a mix of working people and often-wealthy liberals. But recently — with the notable exception of Bill Clinton — the party has chosen nominees who reflect an elite, out-of-touch mentality.

"Bill Clinton could go both ways. He was comfortable in trailer parks as well as Park Avenue. But he was a unique figure," Doak said. "We Democrats have got to find a way to reconnect with rural voters and more conservative voters."

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(Bush) won in tiny towns where no one dreams of dining with Bush-hating billionaire George Soros, you don't need to borrow a gun to go goose hunting, and opposing gay marriage is seen as standing up for traditional values.
1 posted on 11/05/2004 1:37:00 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
"Democrats get in trouble with candidates from the liberal elite, of noblesse oblige, who talk about, 'Oh gee, I'm going to help the poor people,' " Doak added.

Kerry's supposed concern for the poor would be a tad more convincing if he ever, ever considered the possibility of reaching into his own pocket to help!

2 posted on 11/05/2004 1:41:25 AM PST by maryz
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To: Liz

3 posted on 11/05/2004 1:43:48 AM PST by Prime Choice (The Democrats vowed 'no surrender.' It's time to make them wish they had.)
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To: Liz

Kerry might not be comfortable in a trailer park but he better get used to the dog house.


4 posted on 11/05/2004 1:43:57 AM PST by Dataman
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To: Liz
She (The Author Orin) was on Hardball and was right on from this moderate's point of view. Excellent piece.
5 posted on 11/05/2004 1:44:42 AM PST by drt1
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To: Liz

Thank you for posting this. Norski :-)


6 posted on 11/05/2004 1:47:29 AM PST by Norski
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To: Dataman

Wonder where he is going to go when Terazaaa boots him out the door....


8 posted on 11/05/2004 1:48:18 AM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: Liz
"Bill Clinton could go both ways."

Doubtless. :)

9 posted on 11/05/2004 1:52:25 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Liz
"Most people in America don't windsurf and don't snowboard. Kerry's problem wasn't about his thoughts or issues as much as it was his inability to connect," said Democratic strategist David Doak.

Oh please.

10 posted on 11/05/2004 1:53:16 AM PST by GeronL (Congratulations Bush on your re-election VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Prime Choice
LMFAO. A new favorite!


11 posted on 11/05/2004 1:54:02 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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To: Liz

The Dems didn't want to win this one, they put forth the biggest loser they could find. Hillary in 2008 is their goal, they don't want to do any work, but would prefer to squander the work of Republicans.


13 posted on 11/05/2004 1:55:12 AM PST by EaglesUpForever
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To: Prime Choice
I second the LMFAO! Sent it immediately to a few discouraged (Confused?) Wrong-Siders
14 posted on 11/05/2004 1:57:15 AM PST by drt1
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To: godchosebush
It's way past time,newbie,that you lose the class warfare bit!

"REGULAR FOLK" live on the East Coast,go to Yale and to Harvard,just as our beloved president did and (gasp),yes,even go to boarding schools too.And guess what? THEY AREN'T ELITISTS EITHER! Still and all,if YOU represent "regular folks" (which you don't!),then the rest of us here aren't.

15 posted on 11/05/2004 2:00:42 AM PST by nopardons
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To: godchosebush
Read what you posted,then reread my reply.

And here's a helpful hint....THINK before you post and don't post again until you get more acquainted with this forum. :-)

17 posted on 11/05/2004 2:04:19 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Norski

You are very welcome.


18 posted on 11/05/2004 2:04:51 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: godchosebush

Heh.....so cute.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 2:06:28 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Ronin
In his Chrysler convertible, in the parking lot, down by the Capitol. LOL
21 posted on 11/05/2004 2:06:50 AM PST by MKM1960
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To: Prime Choice

They don't put up them road signs that say "Don't Mess With Texas" fer nuttin'.


22 posted on 11/05/2004 2:08:41 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Dataman

Dog house for Kerry sounds about right.

AND we own the WH and all the Capitol Hill real estate for a long, long time.........with no mortgage due.


23 posted on 11/05/2004 2:10:35 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Liz
As he sees it, the Democratic Party is a mix of working people and often-wealthy liberals.

That's a pretty dated conception. The Democratic Party is a predator-parasite alliance. Working people are their targets. Working people, therefore, continue to flee the 'rats.

24 posted on 11/05/2004 2:14:02 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Liz
President Bush won the White House because he understands it's hip to be square.

If being morally and ethically decent is being square, count me in as a square peg. I've always been a square peg. Comes from a good upbringing in a household built on a foundation of strong and decent morals.

25 posted on 11/05/2004 2:20:14 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Liz

"We Democrats have got to find a way to reconnect with rural voters and more conservative voters."

Conservative voters? You guys are L-I-B-E-R-A-L-S!


26 posted on 11/05/2004 2:22:06 AM PST by eagle11 (American Left is dead.....European Left is terminally ill......)
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To: Dataman
Kerry might not be comfortable in a trailer park but he better get used to the dog house.

It'll certainly be the first house he's lived in that he can truly call his own.

27 posted on 11/05/2004 2:22:43 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: godchosebush
Yeah George knows what it is like to be in with the regular folk

Soros may well have understood regular folk when on the run from the Nazis. But now that he funds Modern Nazis of his own creation, one might say he drifted out of touch.

28 posted on 11/05/2004 2:22:53 AM PST by montag813
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To: sphinx
The Democratic Party is a predator-parasite alliance.

We gotta get that on a tee shirt.

29 posted on 11/05/2004 2:24:29 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Liz
"Most people in America don't windsurf and don't snowboard. Kerry's problem wasn't about his thoughts or issues as much as it was his inability to connect," said Democratic strategist David Doak.

The fact that he windsurfed and snowboarded was more comical than anything else. Kerry just looked like a horses ass doing it, and windsurfing and snowboarding had nothing to do with him losing like he did. Kerry lost because he didn't sell himself hard enough. He spent most of his time on the campaign trail painting a picture of doom and gloom and voters were left wondering "Huh?" and thinking what planet is Kerry on while touting a resume that spelled disaster for a country heaped in a war for survival.

30 posted on 11/05/2004 2:28:40 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Liz
"We Democrats have got to find a way to reconnect with rural voters and more conservative voters."

Calling them idiots isn't going to win any converts.

31 posted on 11/05/2004 2:31:19 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Liz

Send me one if you do.:)


32 posted on 11/05/2004 2:36:00 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Liz

bill clinton was more than just comfortable in trailer parks. he was "making himself at home"

you might say he brought a little trailer park everywhere he went, and still does.

we should all be grateful for clinton's appearances with kerry which imho cost many votes in the final few weeks.

thanks again prez bill,
papa joe


33 posted on 11/05/2004 2:41:31 AM PST by NDpapajoe (Go W '04--Landslide in the Making!)
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To: NDpapajoe

I was thrilled to see Clinton back in the political arena, it spelled absolute defeat for Kerry with Bubba at his side. Every state Clinton stumped in, Kerry lost. Clinton tipped the few remaining toss up states toward Bush, especially FL and NM.


34 posted on 11/05/2004 2:49:59 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Liz

I live in the People's Republic of Mahoning County in Ohio and now have to listen to the whining and complaining from my Demorat acquaintances. They still spout the anti-Bush rhetoric, the mantra of "They stole the election of 2000 in Florida" and other hatefull gibberish.
I sit silently and relish the thought that they still don't get it.WE WON!!


35 posted on 11/05/2004 2:51:19 AM PST by RaginRak
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To: GeronL

Most people in America don't windsurf and don't snowboard. Kerry's problem wasn't about his thoughts or issues as much as it was his inability to connect," said Democratic strategist David Doak.


That's right. Most Americans dont think. Dont have values, we just are overwhelmed by trendy sports. NOT!


36 posted on 11/05/2004 3:01:35 AM PST by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: Liz

Kerry and the missus have dropped out of sight. Nobody seems to know where they've gone. Hmmm. A little wound licking going on and maybe some plate throwing? Lots and lots of booze and self pity. Wonder if Kerry's cell phone's been taken away from him.


37 posted on 11/05/2004 3:05:31 AM PST by hershey
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To: Liz

Poor John Kerry. He needs comforting. We should all mail him a slice of hearty French cheese and a glass of fine French wine. May I recommend, for the former, a Machecoulais or Tomme de Savoie, or the deliciously gooey Epoisses de Bourgogne (it may be a bit smelly to mail but it's worth it). For the wine, a Doudet Naudin Meursault au Village is always welcome, or the elegant Poilly Fuisse. Please mark your package "This Side Up" so the glass doesn't spill.


38 posted on 11/05/2004 3:07:14 AM PST by T'wit (The more intelligent candidate won.)
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To: T'wit

A selection from the Rothschild Vineyards might be appropriate seeing that Terayza is almost as rich as they are.


39 posted on 11/05/2004 3:11:24 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: hershey

I hear Newsweek is gonna do a major dump on Terayza....and her hypochondriaism (read addiction to pain-killers).


40 posted on 11/05/2004 3:13:44 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Kerry lost because he didn't sell himself hard enough.
The only way to do that would have been to face hard questions about his past. He was never willing to do that. And he was right to avoid doing that. He would have lost by an even larger margin if he had tried to openly talk about who he really is and what he has really done over the years.

Kerry got the most votes he could possibly get in this country (and I suspect he didn't actually get 1-5% of the votes in his total). He got those votes by obscuring his identity. If he had made things more clear, he would have gotten fewer votes.

41 posted on 11/05/2004 3:14:46 AM PST by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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To: RaginRak

Wait til the whiners find out that:

(A) Presdent Bush issued an open invitation to the 59,054,087 Bush voters to attend daily prayer services in the Capitol rotunda.

(B)President Bush is authorizing $2 billion from the NEA to erect a cross on the White House lawn.

(C) President Bush will issue an executive order to place marble replicas of the Ten Commandments in every courtroom in the US.


42 posted on 11/05/2004 3:16:10 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: NDpapajoe

Thanks Bill.

43 posted on 11/05/2004 3:19:14 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Liz

No kidding? Just WOW if thats true! LMAO!!


44 posted on 11/05/2004 3:23:20 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: samtheman

It's simply stunning the number of votes he did get. Then again, the Democrat party is just a conspiracy theory of keeping certain people in this country poor and stupid.


45 posted on 11/05/2004 3:25:42 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Liz

All of these things are true, but I think you also have to give red state people credit for understanding the difference in the ideas of the two candidates. I think the latest spin is simply going to be that the red states didn't like Kerry's very unlikeable personality (heck, not even Dems liked the man very much), thereby glossing over the fact that they do indeed think we are doing the right thing in Iraq, they are satisfied with the economic direction of the country, and they like Bush's position on life issues.


46 posted on 11/05/2004 3:30:22 AM PST by livius
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To: Liz

Are we going to have a Nativity scene at the Capitol? Grin.

I talked at length to a friend who travels in exclusive circles, a conservative in a sea of liberals. He said a surprising number of those people secretly told him they voted for Bush. He asked why. The most frequent answer:

I don't LIKE Kerry.

And they realllly didn't like Teresa. They told him: 'Hillary wanted to rule the US...Teresa wants to rule the world. Hillary wanted to fix healthcare...Teresa wants us to take vitamins and eat gin soaked raisins'.

People in MA don't like Kerry. His fellow Senators don't like him. According to Newsweek, many of the people working on his campaign didn't like him. After watching him for months, apparently 58 million Americans didn't like him either.


47 posted on 11/05/2004 3:32:41 AM PST by Fracas
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To: Fracas

November 3, 2004 had to be a day of liberation for those in the Kerry camp.


48 posted on 11/05/2004 3:34:45 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Liz

"President Bush won the White House because he understands it's hip to be square."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I bet Barbara Mandrell is so proud. She started it years ago with, "I was country, when country wasn't cool...".

As for me, being a southern gal, I'd much rather have peanuts in my coke, than gin in my raisins!


49 posted on 11/05/2004 3:35:14 AM PST by LakeLady ("I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers)
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To: livius

Don't get confused. Conservative moral issues ruled the day, and moral issues will drive the agenda. Kerry's obeisance to Christian-hating Hollywarped weirdos demonstrated that he would strengthen Follywood's destructive chokehold on American culture.

Kerry idiotically called foul-mouthed Whoppi Goldberg the "soul of America" and stupidly aligned himself with religious-hating Hollywarped's version of the Ten Commandments.

THE HOLLYWOOD CREED

Christians are evil.

Women are to be valued only for their cleavage.

The traditional family is archaic, constricting, with no redeeming value.

Parents that try to guide their children's choices are restrictive. Kids need to be "free".

Extreme movie violence and explicit sex for the thrill
of it is good because it is profitable.

We firmly believe 24/7 of the sexually salacious and violent TV, movies and music we produce are not harming kids and the culture.

OTOH, we also believe----with the religious fervor of Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15-sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.


50 posted on 11/05/2004 3:38:04 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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