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Can't beat Bush? Join Canada!
Toronto Sun ^ | November 5, 2004 | (editorial page)

Posted on 11/05/2004 4:27:03 AM PST by Clive

Can't beat Bush? Join Canada!

Let us be perfectly clear: We do not believe U.S. Presdient George Bush's re-election is a bad thing; on the contrary, we think it's good for Canada and the world.

We're optimistic about Canada-U.S. relations warming up, and pleased to see that Prime Minister Paul Martin agrees -- he could help matters by tossing Mississauga's anti-American bigmouth Carolyn Parrish from his caucus.

We think the so-called great divide in America over this week's election has been greatly exaggerated, and we trust and hope that the nation will come together as it always has.

But with all that said, if a signifcant number of Americans should choose to go a different route -- a northern route -- we'd be hard pressed to say no.

And if such great states as New York, California, Washington, Pennsylvania and Hawaii actually wanted to become Canadian provinces, well, who are we to argue?

Yesterday, Howard Gensler of the Philadelphia Daily News brilliantly argued exactly that, in an eloquent call for the so-called "blue states" -- i.e., all those that backed Democrat John Kerry -- to join Canada.

Yes, join Canada -- not annex us. We'd annex them. The blue states are all contiguous to our border and/or to one another, so the new border could be smoothly drawn.

The blue-staters would gain acceptance for their more liberal views here in the land of free health care and soon-to-be-legal gay marriage and marijuana. And we'd get New York City, Los Angeles, California wine country, a host of world-class cultural institutions and a raft of great sports teams (the Grey Cup would never be the same).

Again, to be clear, this is not an anti-American thing. This idea comes from an American, from Philadelphia, the birthplace of America, for crying out loud.

We would remind the would-be immigrants, though, that they'd also better be prepared to live with higher taxes, gun control, bilingualism and no Fox News.

Then again, as Kerry supporters, they probably think those are all good things. And hey, with an additional 50-odd million people, our economy can only get better. Not to mention our military and our business sector.

We'd have freer movement of softwood lumber and cattle, and Toronto could trash in Michigan without worrying about the border closing. And we'd be a superpower!

We'd miss our friends in the American South, of course, and Florida -- but we'd still visit as always.

After our vacation in the province of Hawaii, of course.

Honestly, with an offer like that, how could we refuse?

And another thing ...

Bravo to the Ontario Court of Appeal, which yesterday increased the "unfit" jail sentence for two abusive Blackstock parents who caged their two little boys for years. They'll now serve four and five years, not nine months -- though we agree with the Crown that eight years would have been better.


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1 posted on 11/05/2004 4:27:03 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

Great idea! If the Eastern seaboard and the Left Coast want to join Canada, let's happily oblige them.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 4:29:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Clive

Nah, Canada need to break up. The Western provinces can join the US. The rest can remain a frozen socialist increasingly third world country.


3 posted on 11/05/2004 4:30:23 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...
Of course, the other side of the coin would be that we would lose Alberta to the re-constituted US (Or would it then become a new de-centralized Confederated States of America).

;-)

4 posted on 11/05/2004 4:32:11 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

Sounds like a winner to me!

I am a bit puzzled by one thing he said, though. What makes him think that annexing the limp wristed liberals would help their military? If it would, their military is in worse shape than we thought.


5 posted on 11/05/2004 4:32:41 AM PST by deaconjim (Freeper formally known as jpw01 (Freep the world!))
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To: Clive

I love this post! Thank you, Clive.


6 posted on 11/05/2004 4:33:36 AM PST by LakeLady ("I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers)
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To: Clive

Canada-- Number 1 or 51?


7 posted on 11/05/2004 4:34:54 AM PST by B-1B-thejihadremedy
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To: Clive
U.S. Presdient

The Sun's webmaster better correct the spelling of President in this important editorial.

8 posted on 11/05/2004 4:35:46 AM PST by syriacus (I'm commanded to love appeaseniks -- but I don't have to vote for one as Commander-in-chief.)
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To: B-1B-thejihadremedy

Idiots. We should take over British Columbia and the Yukon, and then bomb Ottawa.

j/k.


9 posted on 11/05/2004 4:36:22 AM PST by The Teen Conservative
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To: Clive
And if such great states as New York, California, Washington, Pennsylvania and Hawaii actually wanted to become Canadian provinces, well, who are we to argue?

Look guys, just take California off our hands and you've got a deal, okay?

10 posted on 11/05/2004 4:38:52 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: Clive

We trade the liberal Pac NW to Canada in exchange For Alberta! Then we have more oil than Saudi! Oh, and we give back Peter Jennings but keep Mark Steyn! Deal?


11 posted on 11/05/2004 4:39:32 AM PST by twntaipan (Bush won a majority of the votes! Clinton never did that!)
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To: Clive

I assume the writer is at least half joking but I wish he wouldn't work on the assumption that we so called blue staters all voted for Kerry. My home state of Michigan is a mostly red state with a few blue counties.

Any attempt to annex Michigan would lead to a resistance that would make the insurgency in Iraq look like a play ground scuffle.


12 posted on 11/05/2004 4:39:43 AM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: Clive

you know, this is actually a good idea- let them turn Canada into a socialist paradise, and let us enjoy our freedom here.

We will do as we have always done and keep Canada from getting attacked. And feed them when their economy goes to heck.


13 posted on 11/05/2004 4:41:45 AM PST by Mr. K
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To: Clive

The "great divide" in America has been caused totally by lib Dems and can only be narrowed by lib Dems. If I were Bush, I couldn't care less what the Dems think at this point. And I'd have a LONG memory about the things said by the so-called Dem leaders during this election.


14 posted on 11/05/2004 4:45:41 AM PST by BillyCrockett
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To: Clive

Liberal MP Parrish calls Bush 'war-like'
Says U.S. voters 'out of step' with world

Canadian Press

November 4, 2004


American voters showed that they are "completely out of step with most of the free world," Carolyn Parrish said. (CP archive)


OTTAWA -- The re-election of a war-mongering president shows Americans are "out of step" with the rest of the world, says a Liberal MP infamous for her blistering attacks on George W. Bush.

Carolyn Parrish said Wednesday that she's "dumbfounded" by Bush's victory. "He has been reconfirmed as their commander-in-chief, and he is a war-like man." American voters showed that they are "completely out of step with most of the free world," Parrish said. "I guess it's a reflection of the profound psychological damage of 9-11."

The comments came just hours after Prime Minister Paul Martin warned his MPs in a private caucus meeting not to make incendiary comments in the wake of the U.S. election.

Parrish wasn't at the meeting and apparently didn't get the message.

Earlier this fall, Parrish publicly expressed her disdain for what she called the "coalition of the idiots" who back the U.S. missile defence plan.

Last year, she referred to the Bush administration as American "bastards."

Now, Parrish is urging Bush to dump his ballistic missile program, suggesting his immediate concern should be getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

"I would hope that he'd concentrate on getting the U.S. out of those two problems they've got," she said.

"I think his immediate concern should be where he has soldiers dying."

New Democratic Party Leader Jack Layton said with Bush remaining in power, Canada now has a tough choice to make.

Layton calls missile defence one of the most important issues affecting Canada-U.S. relations.

"Now the Canadian government has to sit down and say, all right, how are we going to move forward on the issues important to Canadians," he said.

"This means that Canadians have to speak up against the missile defence system and say 'No' to participation."


http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=d25d7313-4cf6-4938-a4b1-92bf1fb51c9f


15 posted on 11/05/2004 4:53:53 AM PST by neb52
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To: neb52; Clive

OOOooopppsss!!!! Sorry posted wrong story.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Calgary/Licia_Corbella/2004/11/03/699458.html


16 posted on 11/05/2004 4:55:44 AM PST by neb52
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To: neb52
The new Prime Minister, Paul Martin, has repeatedly reprimanded Parrish for her incendiary remarks.

See yesterday's posting, titled "PM tears into Parrish"

17 posted on 11/05/2004 5:02:17 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive

This sounds similar to a suggestion I have made...except I say leave the borders as they are.

Just have a mass exodus over a three year period. All liberals move north of the border, all conservatives can head south and may the best system win.

Of course it will not be long before we declare the winner. With all the productive citizens living south of the border, there will be nobody to bilk money from to support the programs north of the border. They will have no military because they can't afford one and don't want one anyway.

All gays will move up to Canada where they can be joined together in wedded bliss every other week or so. With this lifestyle comes the inevitable disease. No matter...socialized medicine (until it goes belly up).

In short order they will be so in need of money they will sell their lumber and oil at rock bottom prices, no matter what the environmentalists (all of them will be up here as well!) have to say.

Canada can then be proud of their first (well, actually second) female Prime-Minister, Carolyn Parrish. She will be voted in in a landslide and will bring the disgraced Sven Robinson out of hiding and into leadership.

What a country. It will implode in about five years. Then the conservatives can come in and clean up the mess.


18 posted on 11/05/2004 5:06:31 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: FormerACLUmember

Come on guys, show some charity! You guys wouldn't abandon me up here in Qc with these retard commy liberals would you? WOULD YOU????


19 posted on 11/05/2004 5:10:38 AM PST by bubman
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To: Clive

I know, I meant to post the second one. I grabbed teh wrong story.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 5:19:42 AM PST by neb52
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To: Clive
O Canada!

Our home and native land!

True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,

The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

21 posted on 11/05/2004 5:19:45 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: Clive
The blue-staters would gain acceptance for their more liberal views here in the land of free health care and soon-to-be-legal gay marriage and marijuana. And we'd get New York City, Los Angeles, California wine country, a host of world-class cultural institutions and a raft of great sports teams (the Grey Cup would never be the same).

The Grey Cup wouldn't be much different. The Giants and Jets actually play in New Jersey. Los Angeles hasn't had a team since 1995. So you'd get the Buffalo Bills, San Fran 49ers, and Oakland Raiders ... all bottom tier teams with dim prospects. They are all at CFL levels right now. Go Edmonton Eskimos!
22 posted on 11/05/2004 5:41:33 AM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Clive

That's not how it'll work, eh. We're sendin' our best and brightest up your way, eh. Then you can feed, house and cloth them until their jewlery making businesses get off the ground, eh. Good luck, you hosers!


23 posted on 11/05/2004 5:59:26 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (What can you expect from a political party full of master-debators?)
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To: Clive
an eloquent call for the so-called "blue states" -- i.e., all those that backed Democrat John Kerry -- to join Canada.

That is damn fine idea. I am all for it.

24 posted on 11/05/2004 6:06:49 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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To: Clive

New England states merge with Quebec and petition for entry into the EU. Congress says "only if you take New York too."


25 posted on 11/05/2004 6:39:15 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: NonValueAdded
Better that Quebec merge with France, everyghing else east of the Lakehead mege with the New England states and New York.

Alberta merges with the western states except the west coast and absorbes Saskatchewan and Manitoba

California goes it alone

The Pacific Northwest, BC and Alaska form the nation of Cascadia and become a Pacific Rim country. (There is already a movement in Washington, Oregon, BC and Alaska, called "Cascadia")

I move to Alberta with a winter home in Louisiana.

;-)

26 posted on 11/05/2004 6:54:52 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive
Of course, the other side of the coin would be that we would lose Alberta to the re-constituted US (Or would it then become a new de-centralized Confederated States of America).;)

Sounds like a winning plan to me - when do we start?

Ryle in Alberta

27 posted on 11/05/2004 7:27:46 AM PST by Ryle
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To: Clive

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1272194/posts


28 posted on 11/05/2004 3:15:34 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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