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Reagan's Chief Strategist Weighs In on Election
The Globe and Mail ^ | November 5, 2004 | Dick Wirthlin

Posted on 11/05/2004 9:30:27 AM PST by ElephantsForever

On Nov. 2, an elephant charged across the U.S. electoral map -- an elephant named Ronald Wilson Reagan.

To be sure, President George W. Bush and his chief strategists, Karl Rove and Matthew Dowd, deserve enormous credit for engineering the first presidential campaign in 16 years to capture more than 50 per cent of the popular vote. But to understand the magnitude and method of their achievement, it is necessary to examine how two Reagan-induced forces -- a "rolling" realignment and values-based communications -- coalesced to help produce Mr. Bush's victory.

In February of 1980, Mr. Reagan asked me to serve as his chief strategist and pollster.

(Excerpt) Read more at wyntonhall.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004election; bush; bushvictory; popularvote; reagan; wirthlin
Someone sent me this after my earlier reference to Wirthlin's new book, THE GREATEST COMMUNICATOR.

Certainly gives us hope, but is Wirthlin correct?

1 posted on 11/05/2004 9:30:28 AM PST by ElephantsForever
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To: ElephantsForever

I think so.

I agree with Ann Coulter who recently pointed out that had W hammerred harder on 'Values' and 'Moral Issues' in PA and MI, he would have carried them as well. As it stands, he lost both by one percent.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 9:34:26 AM PST by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican

Didn't GWB also come out with his support of civil unions a few days before the election?


3 posted on 11/05/2004 9:37:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Moonman62

Yeah, I'm still pretty angry about that one.


4 posted on 11/05/2004 9:39:26 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: ElephantsForever

Be mindful that the democrats follow the propaganda playbook. Steal words, give them adjusted meanings and then claim ownership.

Pelosi: "We will defend America". Translation: Iraq did not attack us. The Taliban is defeated. Time to stand down.

Democrat: "We support education for all children." Translation: All illegals are welcome. Education into socialist principals is mandatory for all.

Democrat: "We support health care for all." Translation: If you want free health care you must give up freedoms.

Democrat: "We support judges who are pro-choice." Translation: We can't pass a law acceptable to Americans so we demand the judges mandate from the bench.


5 posted on 11/05/2004 9:39:34 AM PST by Prost1 (Why be concerned about Hillary? A face-lift can't even help her!)
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To: ElephantsForever
Certainly gives us hope, but is Wirthlin correct?

Sorta. But Bush and Rove won this election, not Ronald Reagan. Bush did more for pro-life causes than Reagan ever did, and took on the gay lobby with his support for a constitutional amendent.

IOW, Bush went far beyond Reagan's "values" statements.

6 posted on 11/05/2004 9:40:02 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: ElephantsForever

He's right. However the looming spectre in the closet is the Northeastern liberal influence that is the traditional Republican Party.

If these type are allowed to gain any power, or hold back any of our progress, our gains will reverse.

We have to hold fast to conservatism and beat back the Rino's. The Democrats will have a few more losing cycles ahead before they figure out that Americans are not liberal socialists. They will get it someday however. Republicans were historically the party of progressivism. If those days to return the power will shift again.


7 posted on 11/05/2004 9:41:10 AM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (p4 obliterate *)
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To: wideawake
"Civil unions" is a legal arrangement. States are free to create whatever "civil unions" residents in those states choose to approve.

I have no problem with Bush's stance on civil unions.

8 posted on 11/05/2004 9:41:23 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: sinkspur
There's no reason to dignify perversion with official legal status.
9 posted on 11/05/2004 9:42:54 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: sinkspur

Yep.

He OUTLAWED Partial-Birth-Murder.

Libs are so scared, they don't even won't to mention it.

If F'ing was opposed to it, then why didn't he promise to reverse it?

Cowards!

They hide their true values, especiall during election years and try to fake out everyone.

Fortunately, at least in this cycle they did not succeed.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 9:43:07 AM PST by The_Republican
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
He's right. However the looming spectre in the closet is the Northeastern liberal influence that is the traditional Republican Party.

If these type are allowed to gain any power, or hold back any of our progress, our gains will reverse.

So, you want to start shrinking the tent?

Those "Northeastern RINOS"-- as you call them-- vote reliably with the GOP and Bush 99% of the time. And, a conservative Republican would not be elected in a state like Maine.

The Republican Party is growing. Let's keep it growing. The Democrats are in the shape they're in because they insist on litmus tests.

11 posted on 11/05/2004 9:46:06 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: wideawake
There's no reason to dignify perversion with official legal status.

It's a state matter, just as abortion should be.

12 posted on 11/05/2004 9:46:50 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: sinkspur
It's a state matter, just as abortion should be.

Institutionalizing sexual perversion and legitimizing the murder of children are not matters of local preference or interest only.

State jurisdiction rather than judicial legislation would be a step in the right direction, but murder is murder and should be illegal throughout the land.

13 posted on 11/05/2004 9:50:35 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: sinkspur
So, you want to start shrinking the tent? Those "Northeastern RINOS"-- as you call them-- vote reliably with the GOP and Bush 99% of the time. And, a conservative Republican would not be elected in a state like Maine.

Non-sequitur. If they vote with us, they are not Rinos. It is their defacto opposition to us through their votes that defines Rinos.

I highly doubt there will be any Republicans (re)elected in the Northeast, next cycle.

14 posted on 11/05/2004 9:52:25 AM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (p4 obliterate *)
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To: wideawake
State jurisdiction rather than judicial legislation would be a step in the right direction, but murder is murder and should be illegal throughout the land.

I agree, but murder is also a state issue.

15 posted on 11/05/2004 9:52:39 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
I highly doubt there will be any Republicans (re)elected in the Northeast, next cycle.

I think they will ALL be re-elected. Snow, Collins, Chafee(if he remains a Republican) have a constituency.

16 posted on 11/05/2004 9:57:51 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: ElephantsForever

He is right in that President Reagan laid the foundation upon which we have won President Bush's re-election. What he never mentions is Ronnie always knew that while he could jump start the GOP, he lacked the time to propel it forward to its full potential. That he had to leave to the rest of us. It took us a while to get going, but get going we have. Newt Gingrich understood this in 1994, but the wolves nipping at his heels took him down before he reached his full potential.

President Bush was hobbled by the attacks of 9/11, and by the flagging economy left to him by President Clinton. Now he has the opportunity to carry the Reagan Revolution forward. He made those intentions very clear yesterday.

And the Dems are trembling at his approach.


17 posted on 11/05/2004 9:57:58 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: No_Outcome_But_Victory
"However the looming spectre in the closet is the Northeastern liberal influence that is the traditional Republican Party. If these type are allowed to gain any power, or hold back any of our progress, our gains will reverse."

Be of good cheer and join our Merry little ban of watch dogs and leaders. The Reagan Wing is on the job and will soon begin formal organization. Please read and start following the series. It could make for a joyous Holiday Season indeed.

18 posted on 11/05/2004 10:21:24 AM PST by Reaganghost (Reagan could see the Renaissance coming, but it will be up to you to make it happen.)
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To: sinkspur
I think they will ALL be re-elected. Snow, Collins, Chafee(if he remains a Republican) have a constituency.

They might, but their influence has been reduced within the party.

I think the influence of this type will prevail again within the party in the future, though. Eventually the liberal interest groups and money will flow to Republicans, just like Rockefeller money did in the early 1900's. When that happens the party will become marginalized again.

19 posted on 11/05/2004 10:27:26 AM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (p4 obliterate *)
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To: Reaganghost
The Reagan Wing is on the job and will soon begin formal organization.

Reagan communicated great ideas that reached across the political divide. If the ghost of Nelson Rockefeller rises again, the gains will flow back to the Democrats or to whatever arises as the most prominent embodiment of the Reagan ideal. It would be easiest to keep this ideal burning brightly within the party so the tide of history would be toward more freedom and less government, with less pain getting there.

History is cyclical, however and the best of men can be brought to ruin by forgetting idealism for the sake of poularity or money. This can happen again.

20 posted on 11/05/2004 10:38:04 AM PST by No_Outcome_But_Victory (p4 obliterate *)
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To: sinkspur
So, you want to start shrinking the tent?

The "big tent" theroy is what is going to end up fu#%ing up Bush's judicial nominees. Thanks (R)len.

21 posted on 11/05/2004 10:51:31 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
The "big tent" theroy is what is going to end up fu#%ing up Bush's judicial nominees.

Just hold your horses. This game has yet to be played.

22 posted on 11/05/2004 10:57:23 AM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: ElephantsForever

"Certainly gives us hope, but is Wirthlin correct?"
Well, he certainly makes sense. To an extent he is speaking about the future - one could hope he's correct, and try to bring it about.


23 posted on 11/05/2004 11:07:19 AM PST by GSlob
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To: ElephantsForever

If this guy happens to be correct, then 15-20 years from now the entire country will descend into the ninth level of Hell. Oral sex in public, 90% taxation, etc...Clintoon's legacy in other words.


24 posted on 11/05/2004 11:22:19 AM PST by Stopislamnow (One Dick, One Bush, the way God intended it.)
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To: The_Republican
Ann Coulter who recently pointed out that had W hammerred harder on 'Values' and 'Moral Issues' in PA and MI, he would have carried them as well.

She was touting the great wisdom of THE 'architect', as W calls him. I think that was a character in the worst of the Matrix films.

25 posted on 11/05/2004 11:38:36 AM PST by sevry
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To: sinkspur

There is no question whatsoever that GWB is RWR's true political heir. GWB, understood, built on, and expanded RWR's legacy in a way no other Republican has since the Great Communicator left the White House. I also believe that, while RWR was the last genuinely great president of the 20th Century, GWB is first great president of this new 21st Century. If he can pull off what he's planning to in this term, he'll go down as one of the greatest leaders of all time.


26 posted on 11/05/2004 12:11:28 PM PST by Wolfstar (Yippeeeee!!!! A great election victory AND a new puppy in the White House. Life is good.)
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To: Wolfstar

If he can pull this off, he will join the great Republican Presidents, and the great Presidents in general.

Lincoln, Reagan, and Bush


27 posted on 11/05/2004 12:24:52 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: ElephantsForever
 
Some time . . . when the team is up against it, when things are wrong and the breaks are beating the boys - tell them to go in there with all they've got and win just one for the Gipper. I don't know where I'll be then, . . .. but I'll know about it, and I'll be happy.

28 posted on 11/06/2004 6:58:37 AM PST by Cincinnatus
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To: ElephantsForever

President Bush is one of the greatest presidents, like Ronald Reagan, Abraham Lincoln or George Washington.


29 posted on 11/06/2004 7:02:36 AM PST by Reader of news
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