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Serious question about Brit Bashing on Free Republic...

Posted on 11/05/2004 2:53:54 PM PST by BritishBulldog

Just lately (noticeably since the US election result) there seems to be an awful lot of anti-British sentiment on here (there always was a little but I put that down to a handful of xenophobic kiddies)

What I would like to know is do most Freepers now share the low opinion that some (many) on here seem to have of our nation or is it just a small (but very vocal) minority of morons?

I've enjoyed this forum (for the relatively short time that I've contributed) and have always liked Americans in general, but I now find myself reconsidering my thoughts on both.

If we Brits are not liked or wanted around here, I think I'll probably discontinue my involvement.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; antiamericanism; britishpress; bushbashing; bushhassers; dailymirror; england; eurotrash; guardian; guardianuk; insults; mediabias; redstarguardian; tabloidjournalism; themirror; uk; zogbyism
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1 posted on 11/05/2004 2:53:57 PM PST by BritishBulldog
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To: BritishBulldog

Example?


2 posted on 11/05/2004 2:55:08 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (THANK YOU, FREEPERS for re-electing President George W. Bush!)
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To: BritishBulldog

Britain and the US have always had an arms length affair since the War of 1812........


3 posted on 11/05/2004 2:55:34 PM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: BritishBulldog
Hm. Haven't seen anything that looked like brit-bashing here. Maybe I missed it.

But I've encountered a number of British FReepers here. WHy wouldn't you be welcome?

4 posted on 11/05/2004 2:55:35 PM PST by sionnsar (NYT/Cbs: "It's fake but true!" | Iran Azadi | Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: BritishBulldog
Don't take it personally just 'cause you got a weird accent and walk funny.
5 posted on 11/05/2004 2:55:48 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (:))
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To: BritishBulldog

What are you talking about? I've never seen any anti-brit statement the couple of months I've been here.


6 posted on 11/05/2004 2:55:59 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: BritishBulldog

I haven't seen it either, do you have a link?
Maybe some people got mad about the recent mirror UK covers?


7 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:28 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: BritishBulldog

Please stay.

Please also ignore The Guardian. It's THOSE types of Brits whom we knock aroud just as we do our idiots here in the good ole' US of A.

Cheers!


9 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:41 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: BritishBulldog

It's not all Brits that we bash, just the liberal ones who attack our president.


10 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: BritishBulldog

Actually I've only seen people react to the British headline claiming that millions of Americans are dumb.


11 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:45 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: bahblahbah

We're just anti stupid Brit.


12 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:56 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: BritishBulldog

It was the Guardian with "Operation Ohio" that started it. Nothing pisses off an American like somebody telling us how we should vote "for the safety of the world."


13 posted on 11/05/2004 2:56:57 PM PST by PokeyJoe (The United State of Texas.... I like the sound of it..)
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To: BritishBulldog

Well I love the brits. Hate the anti-American ones but love the rest!

I think you're talking about the anti-brit feelign when they started sending us letters right?

That's over already


14 posted on 11/05/2004 2:57:18 PM PST by kanecorp
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To: BritishBulldog
Can I bash stupid, arrogant, condescending Brits (like anyone who participated in that letter-writing campaign to Ohio) while at the same time praising honorable, decent, courageous Brits (like Tony Blair, and all the Brits risking their lives in Iraq)? Is that ok? :-)

It's how I treat Americans too BTW. ;-)

15 posted on 11/05/2004 2:57:34 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I smell an Opus.


16 posted on 11/05/2004 2:57:46 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: BritishBulldog

Good luck you are not French!. HAHAHAHA. I haven't heard anything about brits.


17 posted on 11/05/2004 2:57:55 PM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: sandyeggo

ROFL yea me too, i was getting ready to defend him


18 posted on 11/05/2004 2:57:56 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: BritishBulldog

The most Brit-bashing I saw was in response to the Guardian e-mail campaign against President Bush. For the most part, Brits have been welcomed & respected.

Maybe you should talk to Ivan, check to see if he's found the site to be Brit-bashing.

Now if you're French...it's open season. ;)


19 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:00 PM PST by madison10
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To: BritishBulldog

Oh, if your talking about that Guardian letter affair, the Guardian should have known better. You and your country should be pissed at them for meddling and not as us for responding. If we did the same thing to Britain you know what we would have been told so get over it.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:01 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: BritishBulldog
I got excited - I thought this was about Brit Hume bashing (seriously).

I like Brit but he has to answer for his kissy-butt with Susan Estrich as she tried to dance around the facts, reporting talking points from the Kerry campaign as serious unbiased analysis after it looked like Ohio was lost.

Brit, you messed up big time. Come off the fence a little. I know you had a national audience (Fox affilaites were carrying Brit and gang)..

hehe...sorry to hijack the thread...

21 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:02 PM PST by Danno (the Dems have poop in their pants...)
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To: BritishBulldog

I like the Brits. I have chosen England as my next vacation destination because of Blaiir's support for the US and the prez. FReegards.


22 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:03 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: BritishBulldog

Anglophile checking in.


23 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:05 PM PST by firebrand
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To: BritishBulldog
Nah, you're thinking of the French!

Heck, if you guys wanted to join a real union, we'd give you four Senators. A Senator is more lordly than any British Lord- you'll love having Senators. Gosh, they're a sight to see, when us lowly types are privileged enough to see one. When they're not in jail of course.

24 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:10 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice.. NOT Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: BritishBulldog; MadIvan

I too haven't seen any Brit bashing. The US has no greater allie than the Brits!


25 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:11 PM PST by AZamericonnie (Bush/Cheney 04 Who's your Daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh)
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To: BritishBulldog

We don't like your food, your accents and your bulldogs! Any questions?


26 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Democrats)
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To: BritishBulldog
I haven't seen it.

Most FReepers are glad that the British have largely stood with us, contrary to the wishes of the new Central Powers.

27 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:30 PM PST by B Knotts (Karl Rove: genius. Period.)
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To: BritishBulldog

We love Churchill and Thatcher, heck most of us are Python fans. But there certainly is a segment of modern British society that is pretty loony, especially their press. I suspect like here, most Brits are pretty conservative, once you get outside of London and Liverpool.


28 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:33 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: BritishBulldog

I limit my "Brit-Bashing" to the Guardian, mostly.


29 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:34 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: BritishBulldog

I believe it's a pent-up reaction to years of America-bashing from the British lefties and Europe in general. And it's not so much bashing the British citizenry as your left-dominated government and media.


30 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:35 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Question Liberal Authority; MadIvan

WE LOVE THE UK.

We just HAT the Guardian and the mirror.


31 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:40 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: BritishBulldog

I've heard some comments that would scramble your teeth and turn them yellow.


Oh, I see you've heard them too.

Come on, we kid because we love.


32 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:46 PM PST by RWRbestbyfar
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To: BritishBulldog

You Brits are good people. Stick around.


33 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:48 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: BritishBulldog
It's more criticism of the likes of the Guardian, Daily Mirror etc, which are both fair game :)

That being said, one has only to read the Beeb's "Have Your Say" columns to see that many in UK seem to be somewhat leftist nowadays.
Please stick around !

34 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:55 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: BritishBulldog

Communist papers like The Guardian kinda irritated alot of people on both sides of the pond or so the rumble I heard says.
(Filed in my head as rumor and hearsay unless I can find someone to confirm your side of the pond's irritation at the Guardian.)

Cheers, thanks for being with us in Afghanistan and Iraq.


35 posted on 11/05/2004 2:58:57 PM PST by Darksheare (Personality shattered and horribly twisted, the humor flows out through the cracks.)
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To: BritishBulldog

You are wanted here, dear. The Guardian has made things a bit nippy, and it sometimes gets quite unkind. You might ping MadIvan - he's a Brit - and he can tell you firsthand that many do not know that we have a strong British and Canadian Contingient on FreeRepublic. I think people would be less likely to be insulting if they knew a British or Canadian friend was actually listening to their posts.

If you think THIS is tough, try being of French extraction here. I haven't even come out yet...

Oops.


37 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:00 PM PST by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: BritishBulldog

Try reading your own press for a while.

Even the worst US press can't compare to what we see in the way of personal attacks in the British press. They consistantly claim this president (who has a higher IQ than Kerry, and an MBA) is an idiot.

Where's the counter balance? Where's the fairness?


38 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:08 PM PST by konaice
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To: bahblahbah
Maybe he's talking about the lashing 'The Guardian' took with their somewhat ill-advised attempt to influence Clark County, Ohio in the recent election.

A bit Cheeky, that, wouldn't you say BullDog?

39 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:32 PM PST by Right Winged American (Nobody ever went broke underestimating the power of human stupidity. - L.L. (R. A. Heinlein))
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Don't have a low opinion of the British People... (heck I have relatives that are British...Well in Northern Ireland...) but I do have a low opinion of some of your rather papers over there... That think we Americans are just spoiled little kids... I know that is not the way the majority of Brits think.. most I talked to when i was there in 2000 were very cordial and accommodating.
40 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:41 PM PST by Americanwolf (Message to Democratic Underground trolls and Mike Moore... You lost..... PFFFFFTTTT!!!!!)
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To: BritishBulldog

I've never seen any sort of anti-British sentiment. Typically I don't involve myself in it, because I know there are decent people everywhere, even if it happens to be France or even Canada (I have first hand experience and know quite a few Canadians who love America), and I will defend the decent citizens of any country in the world from the broad brush of hate.


41 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:47 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: BritishBulldog

We didn't like The Guardian's meddling in the election. We didn't like that column suggesting that someone step forward and do the world a favor by assassinating GW. That's been the nub of Brit bashing lately, and it doesn't seem outre. So take heart, pull up a chair, and make yourself at home.


42 posted on 11/05/2004 2:59:53 PM PST by hershey
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To: bahblahbah

You have to realize that the anti-Americanism we see throw our way from the world is getting old. That said, I understand that it is not everyone that feels this way and hope you can understand that that's the same with us. I like the Brits. They were good to my father during WWII and I won't forget it.


43 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:07 PM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: BritishBulldog
I love the Brits! From literature to popular music to standing up against evil you guys have been nothing but a good example.

When growing up, we had a collection of the "Book of Knowledge" encyclopedias, which I now understand is just a slightly Americanized version of a similarly-named collection in Britian. I thought the president reported to the queen, who ruled both the US and Britian, until I was probably 6 years old.

44 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:08 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: BritishBulldog

I believe it's mostly directed at your press and those letters that were sent to Ohio. We don't take kindlly to being told what to do by any other country. National pride, you know.


45 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:08 PM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: BritishBulldog
Being somewhat parochial, many of us thought that the Guardian and the Mirror honestly reported the sentiments of the British people.
46 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:15 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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Oh Please...your media basically calls the majority of American voters worse than fools for voting Republican and we take issue with it.


47 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:20 PM PST by sierrahome (Proud member of the Geo. W. Bush Reelection Team)
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To: BritishBulldog
Reminds me of an interview I once had with a British-born executive in a U.S. firm. While discussing their compensation package he rattled off a list of the company's paid holidays.

"You mean you guys celebrate Independence Day, too?" I asked, feigning disbelief.

"No," he said, feigning outrage, "We take the day off -- BUT WE DON'T CELEBRATE IT!"

:-)

Don't go anywhere. This is the best site on the 'Net.

48 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:32 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: BritishBulldog

I've seen what you mean and I don't blame you for feeling upset.

People here get pretty PO'd with the Guardian's "pen-pal" program amongst other

Too many Freepers forget that the British have been our, steadfast good allies in the WOT.

(Of course, these are the same people who say, "Every Muslim on the planet ought to be exterminated and that includes the Kurds". We have bigots here, though most of us work to keep that weeded out)

Most of us know better.

I like your posts. I know you are not one of those Guardian people.

You should hang out.


49 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:32 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: BritishBulldog

But Lonnie Donnegan and Billy Fury, that's another matter!


50 posted on 11/05/2004 3:00:37 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Democrats)
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