Posted on 11/05/2004 4:00:52 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
AUSTIN - Flanked by Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez, U.S. Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson on Thursday said reviving an immigration agreement with Mexico will be among the top priorities for President Bush during his second term.
Derbez, responding to a question, said those "discussions have already begun," indicating the topic of an immigration accord was broached during a brief early-morning phone conversation Wednesday between Mexican President Vicente Fox and Bush hours before the U.S. president acknowledged his victory against Sen. John Kerry.
Saying Fox had called Bush at 7 a.m. to congratulate him on his re-election, Derbez said in Spanish that the two leaders "talked about their mutual agenda and agreed to initiate high-priority talks, especially with respect to immigration."
The U.S.-educated diplomat said both men agreed that "reforming a migration accord will receive high consideration" when the two leaders are scheduled to meet at a conference in Santiago, Chile on Nov. 19 and 20.
Later, speaking in English to a reporter, Derbez noted that "we appear to be moving in the right direction, but in the end, (immigration) is a U.S. issue and a (Bush immigration plan) is one that will have to be workrd out between the (U.S.) Congress and the White House.
Hutchison, a Texas Republican, invited Derbez and U.S. Commerce Secretary Don Evans to give the inagural talk to the Kay Baily Hutchison Chair in Latin American Law at the University of Texas at austi Law School.
The academic's chair goal, she said, will be to enhance academic collaboration and create a center to foster research on international relations, trade and investment in the Americas and Latin American law.
In introducing Derbez, Hutchison said "there is a sense of urgency to deal with the (immigration) issue, and I believe that with the president's resounding victory, his next four years will give him the chance to do what he intended to do before 9-11."
Bush and Fox were said to have been working on a guest worker program that would have allowed Mexican workers to legally reside and work in the United States for a specific period of time, between three to six years, before returning to Mexico.
But 9-11 and the resulting emphasis on homeland security shelved those plans.
"The devil is in the details," Hutchison said. "But I do believe that (Bush) will have as his priority to ...have a worker program that will permit a free flow (of workers) across the border, but one that will have to mesh workers' needs with our homeland security needs, and that will take time."
She noted that whatever program might be adopted by Congress may not resemble the specific plan Bush envisioned early in his first administration.
Here we go...
jeezus, they just don't get it. Outsource jobs, insource labor.
Where the ()%#( does that leave the AMERICAN in the equation?
The accord should be simple so the Mexicans can understand their rights:
GET OUT AND STAY OUT.
Our guy is milktoast. Do us a favor and dont sign anything asa..ok? Its better if you move on and we put a head buster in your position.
Just noticed this was already posted.
This is very important. Unless Mexico accepts some responsibility, no progress is going to be made on this issue. I'm glad Bush is communicating (firmly, I hope) with the Mexican government on this one.
There's no way on earth you can stop people from seeking a better life (and various undesirables from sneaking across with them) unless you deal with the Mexican side of the border, as well.
Mexico has been completely uncooperative, does not want to repatriate Mexican criminals that we catch here, and drags its heels on everything else. I hope we really crank up the thumbscrews on Mexico, because they are using the US to solve their own domestic problem (corruption and lack of an economy).
From post: ""The devil is in the details," Hutchison said. "But I do believe that (Bush) will have as his priority to ...have a worker program that will permit a free flow (of workers) across the border, but one that will have to mesh workers' needs with our homeland security needs, and that will take time." "
"Devil in the details" - I'll say - especially when an American sees the words "free flow" and the only concern will be homeland security needs. H.S. is important - but so is the giving away of this nation to Mexicans. They have a country - and a President. Why don't they ask their President to improve things for them in their own country -
Until the outsourcing of jobs - and the in flow of illegals to take the jobs left - is solved - the devil will always be in the details - And until they understand that Americans don't take kindly to them breaking our rule of law - and seeing nothing wrong with it(in fact, rubbing our noses in it) - the details will be hard to bring to a finish -
It's a mad, mad, mad, mad - World - and all the leaders need to come to their senses - before the ruin is in stone -
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So Asa's plan works like this. Mexican nationals come across the border for six years. During that six years they shouldn't be expected to be alone, so their families come with them.
They develop a home here. Their kids get free education and the family gets free healthcare, aid to families with dependent children and housing subsidies.
Now, at the end of the six years, they pick up stakes and go home... And they do this because??????????????
Honestly Mr. President, this is disgusting. Withing ten years 1/3rd of Mexican nationals will live within the United States, running the whole show by their grand designs.
What you should do is rename this effort The Resoration Act of 2005. Mexico gets the southwest and we get the f---ing shaft.
When I first saw the headline I thought 'Asa' too but it is Kay Baily Hutchison (RINO-TX)
Bush won. Get over it.
jeezus, they just don't get it. Outsource jobs, insource labor.Where the ()%#( does that leave the AMERICAN in the equation?
Equation? As a cost of labor. What labor "cost" can't be lessened by outsourcing, will be lessened by insourcing illegals, or legalizing them.
"Conservative Free Market values" some would say.
The cost to the long term economy, the polity, and the people is negative naturally. The short-sighted policy is a wage depressing policy.
If CEO's and Journalists were flooding over the border this would be an non-issue - laws would be strictly enforced.
It's part of The Mandate. You will not be consulted.
And we patriots who love this country are going to fight any amnesty plan... get over it.
You forgot to mention they also get affirmative action since they belong to a designated victim group, which will lead to intensified discrimination against white Americans for jobs and school admissions, and redistricting based on ethnicity to guarantee that a "representative" from their group is elected.
Note that this doesn't actually have to involve people here illegally themselves beyond being counted in the census. The mere existence of the demographic statistic, catenated to the various civil rights laws, court decisions, and executive branch regulations, will mandate all of what I just mentioned.
"free flow"
Scary.
What that means is employers want someone on the street corner ready at a moment's notice and work for belaw market for cash.
Bush's people didn't waste a moment after the election to pay back some big backers, no?
Sad to say, Kerry would have been no different.
Got that right, R...
The majority of Americans want illegal immigration stopped and the illegal immigrants forced to deport themselves the hell out of the USA.
Bush and Rove know this.
The new U.S. Congress knows it, too.
Tancredo won reelection big and Dreier barely survived.
Bush and Rove better think about the consequences of following a stupid plan of action that's as universally unpopular as his guest worker stealth amnesty plan.
The first person to be deported should be you!!!!!
Imprison and fine every employer that hires illegals!
Californians, get, sign, and get signatures on the SaveOurLicense petition:
http://www.saveourlicense.com/
We need one to stop this insane amnesty plan!
True - Old Morris is adding to it -
I say President Bush needs to hear from the people - isn't there an email address - or would his people block them -
If can't get through by email - perhaps a "day" to march against illegals - in all states - Make a showing the major media can't ignore -
my opinion - America as a nation is paying too high a price for these Companies cheap labor - Are we adopting China's policy -
BOHICA.
Fortunately, nothing happens unless the Congess says so. The pressure must be brought to bear on the House & Senate. They felt the wrath of public opinion last year, and we can't let up on them now that the election has passed.
Hey, folks, a free market should be a free market. We've got to get rid of the minimum wage.
Since the President wants this, can we send all the illegals to Texas? I'm sure they could use a few million more.
With Tancredo and Prop 200 winning overwhelmingly as well I don't know how anyone can say there's a mandate for amnesties but I'm sure the illegal alien apologists will find a way.
By 2014 there will be 45 plus million illegals in America. I hope the Democrats and Republicans will be proud of their work.
Flood the country with millions of uneducated, unskilled, non English speaking illegal aliens. A real recipe for success!
Go team! So what is everyone wearing to the inaugural ball? I am sure by 2014 there will be a large pinate for the evening festivities.
Hit the keyword for 'guestworker' for the old threads from January when this proposal first was floated. Maybe one of the most unpopular Bush proposals ever.
I'd like to remind everyone that without the Conservative vote, the top would have been out of sight!
Excellent idea!
Let's put them all up at Kay Bailey Hutchinson's house!
Better idea, have Texas build 40,000 20-story pink apartment buildings across the plains of Texas, put um all there.
There's no mandate for amnesties, both of them were proposing one and since one of the two was going to win the voters weren't given much choice in the matter.
Several new members of Congress are more anti-illegal immigration than their predecessors were.
I'm seeing today where Bush only got about 31% of the Hispanic vote nationally. Not very much if that's accurate.
I think Kennebunkport could use a 'day labor' hall and a few 7-Elevens with big parking lots.
That doesn't sound like a lot of gratitude for the $1 billion more of taxpayer dollars for free health care.
You want your children and grandchildren working in a sweatshop for some greedy slob? Whatever floats your boat, but don't wish it on the rest of us.
'Course we all know that's Swahili country.....
That's the real fear with that one. Near-slave labor only benefits those who are profitting by it --- they never intend to pay for the costs of their cheap labor --- that's for the taxpayers.
Just the other day I saw someone suggest "Tancredo/Hutchison 2008". I'm not sure if the person was joking.
That's because Kerry would have given them twice as much. They know whose store has more free candy in it.
I've seen everything from 17% to 45%.
That's our best hope --- the choice was between Kerry giving up our sovereignty to the UN and Bush giving it up to the Mexican government --- but the Mexican government is easier to defeat in the long-run.
Naw! The ACLU would just file suit because of the over crowded living conditions.
We'll probably never know for sure, especially with all the illegal aliens voting.
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