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A darker picture of frontier heroes emerges
New York Times News Service via HoustonChronicle.com ^ | Nov. 6, 2004 | RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 11/07/2004 5:26:23 AM PST by Max Combined

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Fight fire with fire.

Good job, Rangers.

1 posted on 11/07/2004 5:26:23 AM PST by Max Combined
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To: Leapfrog

ping


2 posted on 11/07/2004 5:31:40 AM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: Max Combined

A dark time.

Long ago.

I'm SO glad we can trust the law enforcement organizations on BOTH sides of the border, now.

Oh, wait....


3 posted on 11/07/2004 5:34:46 AM PST by baltodog (I wasn't built for comfort, I was built for speed.)
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To: Max Combined
Apparently, this was all one-sided. The saintly Mexicans never misbehaved or mistreated any Texans. The Rangers were just brutal for no reason. I guess.

I'm so glad we're looking at history in an objective way now.

4 posted on 11/07/2004 5:36:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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It's the left's agenda of deconstructing American history.

Why don't they spend their time deconstructing the failures of liberalism and communism?


5 posted on 11/07/2004 5:38:35 AM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular vote victory in history!)
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To: Max Combined
"You can't put current values on past times,"

Agreed.

Texas Rangers are heroes.

6 posted on 11/07/2004 5:40:02 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Max Combined

The Comanche's and Mexican Bandits were not Saints Ether. both sides played pretty rough


7 posted on 11/07/2004 5:40:42 AM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Max Combined

New York Times News Service - any questions?


8 posted on 11/07/2004 5:40:47 AM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Max Combined

The author, Ralph Blumenthal, has been working at the New York times since the nineteen sixties. In the last election he was given the assignment of sliming George Bush, and tried his hardest to give life to the CBS phoney documents story. Five will get you ten he is a New Yorker born and bred, a red diaper baby, and one of those East Coast liberals committed to the extirpation of any aspect of America's past that is viewed with some reverence.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 5:43:30 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Max Combined

I have a real problem with dredging up muck about men long dead and no longer here to defend themselves.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 5:43:55 AM PST by Melas
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To: Max Combined
In January 1915, with Mexico in a revolutionary uproar and world war raging in Europe, a Mexican rebel named Basilio Ramos was stopped in McAllen with a manifesto calling for an armed uprising to reclaim Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and California for Mexico, and other lands for Indians and blacks.

I guess the Texas Rangers wouldn't pass the Kerry "Global Test"

How un PC of them to think an armed revolution across the border was a big problem for Texas, since a large portion of Texas was Hispanic.

11 posted on 11/07/2004 5:45:19 AM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: Max Combined
It never fails to amaze me at how lefties can always, always find fault with those who fought FOR a cause yet can never find the slightest hint of stink with their fellow lefties who refused to fight and were traitors to their country and even gave comfort to the enemy . . . see Lurch.

The SwiftVets have presented boat-loads of evidence, a gazillion eyewitnesses, and reams of documents proving their case . . . and nary a historian in sight is interested YET the Texas Rangers are being slammed because of eyewitness testimony related by a great-grandson. Or was it just a grandson? Regardless . . . one could hardly be called unbiased if family was involved.

Did the Texas Rangers do some things wrong? I'm sure they did . . . but bringing the law to lawless areas isn't a job for the faint of heart -- see Iraq. I'm sure some Iraqi terrorists have been shot in the back too . . . but only after they've fired off an RPG at a schoolbus of Iraqi children and turned tail to run.

It's just not in our physical and cultural makeup for there to be wholesale executions of our enemies . . . THAT is and what will always be what separates us from most other countries on Earth. And that's why we're the greatest country the world has ever known.


12 posted on 11/07/2004 5:46:00 AM PST by geedee (Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a)
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To: Max Combined

More politically correct BS to distort history.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 5:47:55 AM PST by squirt-gun
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To: astounded
New York Times News Service - any questions?

Same news cycle

Bush wins big. Too early to start smearing him again, so smear his state.

Same thing happened in 2000.

A bunch of anti - Texas news items hit the MSM

14 posted on 11/07/2004 5:48:05 AM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: Max Combined

Folks weren't PC back then -- it hadn't been invented, thank God.


15 posted on 11/07/2004 5:48:56 AM PST by hershey
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To: Max Combined

It was called kill or be killed. Or -- He who shoots last is dead.


16 posted on 11/07/2004 5:50:24 AM PST by hershey
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To: Max Combined

Dead Mexican Banits - Date unknown

17 posted on 11/07/2004 5:50:43 AM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: Max Combined
(paraphrasing...)
"...In 1915, with world war raging in Europe,
a Mexican rebel called for an armed uprising
to capture land for Mexico, Indians, and blacks.
White men age 16 and older were to be executed.
Mexican raiders captured a U.S. soldier,
cut off his head and stuck it on a pole.
Texas Rangers, responded with a wave of shootings and lynchings..."
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Good Job, Rangers.
"You have to nip it; nip it in the bud."
18 posted on 11/07/2004 5:51:56 AM PST by error99
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To: Max Combined

Postcard: "Permanent Headquarters of Mexican Bandits in Hidalgo Co.".

19 posted on 11/07/2004 5:52:19 AM PST by Popman (Democrat Party Political Values are Condescension, Hypocrisy, Bigotry)
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To: Max Combined

Ah yes, time to return to the good ol' liberal tradition of re-writing history to tear down the dead white guys".

In the eyes of the liberal intelligentzia, America thrived not because of these frontiersmen and statesmen, rather, it thrived in spite of them.

The frontier was brutish and nasty. They did what they had to do. Period.


20 posted on 11/07/2004 5:52:33 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (The Measure of a Man is the Willingness to Accept Responsibility for Consequences of his Acts.)
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