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Henry Kissinger: Now, back to defining a new world order
International Herald Tribune ^ | Saturday, November 6, 2004 | Henry Kissinger

Posted on 11/07/2004 11:56:15 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

The election campaign that has mesmerized America - and the world - is over. What remains are the challenges that gave rise to this occasionally frenzied battle and the responsibility of dealing with them. . No president has faced an agenda of comparable scope. This is not hyperbole; it is the hand history has dealt this generation. Never before has it been necessary to conduct a war with neither front lines nor geographic definition and, at the same time, to rebuild fundamental principles of world order to replace the traditional ones that went up in the smoke of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. . George W. Bush will have to lead an effort to define and then maintain an international system that reflects the new, revolutionary circumstances. . . I supported Bush during the campaign. But the United States cannot tackle this agenda except in the context of a commitment by all sides to healing. All concerned with the future must find ways to cooperate so that the world will again see Americans working toward a common destiny both at home and in the community of nations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bushvictory; china; geopolitics; globalaffairs; history; kissinger; newnwo; newworldorder; nwo
I did a search and did not see this posted.

Kissinger is right on the ball to say that we should not lose sight of the real challenges that await us in the future.

The terrorist threat is minimal in comparison to the confrontatioin we will inevitably have with China, if we are not careful about the nature of its changing relationship with the world. To me Kissinger seems worried and rightfully so.

I see the potential conflict, however, not over Taiwan, but rather natural resources.

1.3 billion Chinese cannot live like Americans currently do, but they will want to as long as we do.

1 posted on 11/07/2004 11:56:15 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"One cannot evaluate and judge the decisions of yesterday based of the criteria of today", Kissinger is an American patriot.


2 posted on 11/07/2004 12:02:15 PM PST by kipita (Rebel the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

There's nothing wrong with the Chinese desire for economic progress. As other people join the world economy, we get richer in the long run, not poorer. What's worrisome is the Chinese desire to be a regional hegemon, to have comparable military power as the United States. We must do all we can to prevent this. In other words, we have nothing to fear from a PRC that is a big version of Taiwan. We have much to fear from a PRC that is a big version of pre-WWII Japan.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 12:10:20 PM PST by maro
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To: kipita

Kissinger is one of the architects behind the NWO, I wouldnt go so far as to call him an great patriot.


4 posted on 11/07/2004 12:11:30 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

NWO....excuse me...


5 posted on 11/07/2004 12:11:42 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991


6 posted on 11/07/2004 12:18:46 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Thanks for posting this.

An excellent analysis by Kissinger. Long, but definitely worth reading.

It also addresses what a disaster a Kerry policy of bilateral talks with N. Korea would have been.

Another major point that should receive more attention is:

"The nations bordering the North Atlantic need to ask themselves the fundamental question that has always underpinned the alliance - that is, what will the allies do for the relationship beyond the international consensus reflected at the United Nations?

Much of European debate today implies that the answer is "very little." To subject common military action to prior approval of the Security Council is incompatible with the very concept of alliance, which implies a special set of obligations. It spells the ultimate disintegration of a world order with the Atlantic partnership as its centerpiece.

The Atlantic relationship, to be meaningful, needs to have a special character. The United States and Europe should be prepared to do things for each other in the sphere beyond the immediate dictates of national interest and without insisting on universal consensus."

7 posted on 11/07/2004 12:22:13 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I am reading his "Diplomacy" tome for International Relations class. Man this guy is smart...


8 posted on 11/07/2004 12:23:01 PM PST by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: JessieHelmsJr
When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"People who would sacrifice their freedom for security deserve neither" (Paraphrasing Benjamin Frankin?)

9 posted on 11/07/2004 12:32:57 PM PST by GaltMeister
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To: JessieHelmsJr
Personally, I think Bush has been kicking the hell out of the NWO monsters...including Kissinger's.....re define...that should be an interesting move...we'll catch it...

I think part of skerry's concession speech was on the road to doing that....since this gang has had a NO SHOW on the word LIBERTY for yrs...I found it interesting that, that word popped up in skerry's speech.

10 posted on 11/07/2004 12:35:22 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: JessieHelmsJr

Let's spin the globe....

Europe - Almighty England sitting on the fence, looking for leadership.

France exists as a modern day Colonial power and would be equal to Poland if it weren't for North African and Middle Eastern exploitation.

The people in other countries in Africa live miserably lives, although 0.5% of the fortunate are living okay.

Middle East - read above

Russia - The US funded the transformation and more work still needs to be done.

Asia - Excluding American models of Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong?, and Singapore, where else do people enjoy a quality existence?

Australia/New Zealand - Ordered!

South/Central America - Just hope your ancestors were of European descent.




11 posted on 11/07/2004 12:35:52 PM PST by kipita (Rebel the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: kipita

"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order."

Henry Kissinger, in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975)


12 posted on 11/07/2004 12:39:05 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

"1.3 billion Chinese cannot live like Americans currently do, but they will want to as long as we do."

They will want to live as we do now, irrespective of whether we do or do not.

The first thing they teach you in Economics 101 is that we have unlimited wants and limited resources.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 12:44:34 PM PST by Max Combined (There is in human nature generally more of the fool than of the wise.)
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To: JessieHelmsJr

"One cannot evaluate and judge the decisions of yesterday based of the criteria of today", Kissinger is an American patriot.




14 posted on 11/07/2004 12:47:54 PM PST by kipita (Rebel the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: kipita

"How to Achieve The New World Order"

Title of book excerpt by Henry Kissinger, in Time magazine (March 1994)


15 posted on 11/07/2004 12:48:38 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: JessieHelmsJr

I thought the new world order was based on the Reformation and the American Revolution. It's for the people and it's a dynamic plan.


16 posted on 11/07/2004 12:58:16 PM PST by kipita (Rebel the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: kipita

I dont really know where Kissinger stands in his heart on the UN and NWO I just do alot of reading and seen some of them quotes,but I do know my Prez has dealt them one hell of a blow and I think he will continue to so.Thats one of the greatest things I like about Bush is he stood up to them commie bastards.


17 posted on 11/07/2004 1:05:54 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: GaltMeister

Yep Ben Franklin:

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"


19 posted on 11/07/2004 1:09:05 PM PST by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: JessieHelmsJr

I agree with you, with "W" we have regained the respect lost via Carter and Clinton. However, the reality is the world needs America 100 times more than America needs the world. I posted a response in defense of Kissinger based on his defense of his previous guidance. I researched it and found him to be quite genuine.


21 posted on 11/07/2004 1:17:06 PM PST by kipita (Rebel the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: rwfromkansas
"Man this guy is smart..."

He sure is. But he's also an over-educated fool who mocked and insulted Ronald Reagan and his agenda and, as Nixon's Secretary of State, missed no opportunity to cave in to soviet communism, proclaiming that it was not only here to stay but would soon triumph over us -- and he was confidently asserting this almost right up to the time the soviet system collapsed. Quick to jump on the bandwagon when everybody else can see which way the wind is blowing, close scrutiny of his career reveals him to be one of the blindest and most self-seeking of "public servants."

22 posted on 11/07/2004 1:19:34 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Bonaparte

That is true.


23 posted on 11/07/2004 1:23:35 PM PST by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Bonaparte

Henry Kissinger’s firm, Kissinger Associates, is a secretive consulting company that is rumored to have many major nations, including some that are our enemies, as clients. Publicly, the propaganda regarding his firm states that it facilitates deals that enhance our financial relationships with other countries. The true purpose is always to further the foreign policy ambitions of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Shadow Government. I believe this firm is the tool used to dictate our true foreign policy. Many of the movers and shakers in the world today obtain approval of Kissinger associates before making any major foreign policy or trade decisions. The client list is so secretive, that recently Mr. Kissinger resigned as chairman of the 9/11 investigation rather than divulge the names of his clients.


24 posted on 11/07/2004 1:24:52 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
There isn't going to be any commitment of all sides to healing. The left is against US power in the world, and is against the realities of power, and against exercising them responsibly. They want to live in a fantasyland where it is enough to talk things through and take a five minute time out, where evil does not exist, only tempers, where the rest of the world does not want us to lose power and influence, only to listen to them before acting rashly. They cannot be trusted with power and are not going to change their minds on these things. We simply have to govern without their support, in full knowledge that occasionally their delusions will disrupt the exercise of responsible power on our part. We have to make progress while we are in power, and return to it whenever they get spanked for denying reality.
25 posted on 11/07/2004 1:31:32 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JessieHelmsJr
Tin foil horsefeathers. He is just an elder statesman trying to give advice to his country, and in the meantime a celebrity who cashes in on his reputation in speaking fees and consulting gigs.
26 posted on 11/07/2004 1:32:56 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JessieHelmsJr

We have to be aware of the "Uriah Heeps" out there plotting and planning to co-opt the 2004 conservative victory for their own secret agendas.

They would manhandle the social conservative victory----and dilute the presidential mandate conferred by proto-conservatives----for their own self-serving agendas.

The "Uriah Heeps" could care less for the rights of the unborn and the restoration of conservative values to our Nation-----the proto-conservative issues that drove millions of Christians to the polls.

The agenda-laden, elliptical thinkers lurk in the shadows plotting ways to take over conservative victories.

It ain't gonna happen.

Any mucking up of our hard-won conservative victory will be met with fierce resistance.

Moral issues were this election's key to victory, and moral issues will set the agenda.

You have to wonder who is paying Kissinger to make these comments, although I'd gladly wager a guess, and I would be right.


27 posted on 11/07/2004 1:44:19 PM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: JessieHelmsJr

Fascinating. I didn't know about any of that. Thanks! I must say I'm not surprised.


28 posted on 11/07/2004 1:49:31 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: JessieHelmsJr

Kissinger has enormous financial investments in China.


29 posted on 11/07/2004 1:49:34 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: shield

Your explanation for the President trying to get the L.O.S.T. Treaty before Congress is?


30 posted on 11/07/2004 5:08:12 PM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: JessieHelmsJr; risk; Writer

>>, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity<<

Quite a devisive statement for those who can actually think independently.


31 posted on 11/07/2004 5:11:23 PM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: kipita

>>It's for the people and it's a dynamic plan.<<


A dynamic plan that will abolish the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution.


32 posted on 11/07/2004 5:13:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: FarRightTexasDude

I hope I don't live long enough, but it is coming, faster than I hoped for.


33 posted on 11/07/2004 5:14:44 PM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: B4Ranch; JessieHelmsJr; Writer
Quite a devisive statement for those who can actually think independently.

Human beings have tremendous difficulties agreeing about facts, let alone in setting goals. Culture is critical in finding common ground among peoples. American freedom was derived from and defended by adherents Anglo-Saxon culture. If we dillute that any more, it will die. If we expect our global neighbors to follow in our footsteps, we'd be mistaken.

We'd better start taking a hard look at survival in a world where our culture is as foreign as a lunar ladnscape to most of our earthly cohabitants.

35 posted on 11/07/2004 5:36:25 PM PST by risk
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To: B4Ranch

Bush is with the Cowboys now. LOST has not gone through as of yet. It'll be interesting to see if it ever does. I have my doubts now that Bush truly understands that treaty.


38 posted on 11/07/2004 5:57:05 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield

It would certainly be interesting to see his reaction, if he ever does learn the truth. His Dad knew and he was for it.


39 posted on 11/07/2004 6:07:15 PM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: FarRightTexasDude

Here in Austin, liberal pundits were aghast that the Bilderberger-selected Edwards was on a losing ticket, and are purportedly panicking. The Bilderbergs, panicking.


40 posted on 11/07/2004 6:10:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txflake

Like I said ,I dont know where Mr Kissinger stands on things,But in my heart I think Bush is a good christian man who has stood up to the one world idots the UN.Look at how hard they have gone after this man.I really think that Bush had God on his side and thats what has led him through a tough presidency.Look at what has been thrown at him from The Un .911,MSM, leftist liberals other commie countries like France ,Germany,etc etc but yet this man is still the President.Because the christian people of this country wasnt going to let them take him down!


41 posted on 11/07/2004 7:52:11 PM PST by JessieHelmsJr
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To: JessieHelmsJr

It looks more and more like the true global PTB were NOT expecting a Bush win.


42 posted on 11/07/2004 8:00:06 PM PST by txhurl
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To: B4Ranch
Hopefully, that's the reason it was stopped. He had conservative republicans along with 1,000's of emails protesting! President Bush is not his father. Bush has moved a number of times against his father's NWO leanings.

Time will tell us all in the next 4 yrs if I'm right on what I've been observing. In Bush's RNC speech he said LIBERTY 25 times....the NWO crowd has made sure that word is a NO SHOW in all speeches.

43 posted on 11/08/2004 7:05:53 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield

Truthfully, I pray every night that you are right and I am wrong.


44 posted on 11/08/2004 8:47:18 AM PST by B4Ranch (A lack of alcohol in my coffee is forcing me to see reality!)
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To: B4Ranch

Soon we'll know; keep our eyes on what President Bush does. He is truly with the Cowboys now after 9/11. ;o)


45 posted on 11/08/2004 9:25:58 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: planekT

PING


46 posted on 01/23/2006 12:28:25 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch

Here ya go.

"With Friends like These"

http://www.etan.org/news/kissinger/wfriends.htm

"Twenty-five years earlier, on December 6, 1975, Kissinger -- along with President Gerald Ford -- paid another friendly visit to Jakarta. The next day, as Air Force One cleared Indonesian air space, President Suharto launched some 10,000 troops on a full-scale attack of East Timor. The goal was to conquer and annex the fledgling nation, which had just been granted independence by Portugal. Kissinger now calls the atrocities that accompanied and followed the invasion -- 200,000 dead -- "regrettable."


47 posted on 01/23/2006 1:15:41 PM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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