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Electoral map in three dimensions vividly shows results (Incredible!)
http://people.delphiforums.com/nellie501/Bushcountry.jpg ^ | 11-6-04 | Unknown

Posted on 11/07/2004 1:51:45 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bluestates; bushvictory; map; redstates; secede; secession; themap
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1 posted on 11/07/2004 1:51:46 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba

Interesting, but what exactly is the R coordinate supposed to represent?


2 posted on 11/07/2004 1:53:24 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: Beelzebubba

What do those bars represent?


3 posted on 11/07/2004 1:53:35 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Thank you!!!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Dems are popular only in major cities. Republicans are popular everywhere else in the country.
5 posted on 11/07/2004 1:55:10 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: Beelzebubba

Wow--do you have a 3-D map of 2000 for comparison? (Even a regular comparison between 2000 and 2004 maps?) Thanks.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 1:55:52 PM PST by MHT
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To: paudio
The height shows county population. It demonstrates that Dems are an urban phenomenon.
7 posted on 11/07/2004 1:56:03 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Beelzebubba

Interesting. The bars show the "density" of Kerry votes, for those who are wondering. At least, that's the only thing that makes sense to me.


8 posted on 11/07/2004 1:56:19 PM PST by PrtzlLogic
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To: madvlad
I think everyone here knows that if it wasn't for the "liberal meccas" here in the USA that the GOP would win elections every time.

It's also interesting that there have been some so-called "prophets" who have said that both coasts and the Mississippi valley would be hit in judgement from God. Kinda makes ya wonder hmm?

9 posted on 11/07/2004 1:56:52 PM PST by pctech
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To: Beelzebubba
thanks for the post.

why is there a blue line in the center of alabama that extends into eastern missippi? that one has me stumped.

10 posted on 11/07/2004 1:57:35 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: PrtzlLogic

see replt #4


11 posted on 11/07/2004 1:58:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Beelzebubba

Wow high population cities must be pretty good at voter fraud.


12 posted on 11/07/2004 1:58:42 PM PST by nonkultur
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To: Beelzebubba

That vividly shows why California is under Democrat domination.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 1:59:57 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (How can 55,949,407 people be so (dumb/clueless/insane/deluded/evil)?)
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To: Beelzebubba

This confirms my long-held theory that, with a few notable exceptions, city dwellers have a lower intellect.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 2:00:27 PM PST by AndyPH
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To: PrtzlLogic

"Density" per square mile or "density" per total voting age population?


15 posted on 11/07/2004 2:00:43 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: dr_who_2

I think it represents voter fraud. LOL


16 posted on 11/07/2004 2:00:55 PM PST by perfect stranger (The Hummer is a regular Pat Buchanan on wheels." PJ O'Rourke from C&D magazine)
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To: pctech

Yaaa, LA, Chi-town & Boston.

MV


17 posted on 11/07/2004 2:01:23 PM PST by madvlad
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To: Beelzebubba
Nice graph but the tip of Texas should be red:')

Is there any reason why we can't switch in the middle of this and make republicans blue and democrats red?

18 posted on 11/07/2004 2:01:25 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: MeekOneGOP


For your *files*?


19 posted on 11/07/2004 2:01:43 PM PST by onyx
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To: Beelzebubba; All
Check out Illinois. Everyone wanting to toss in the towel. Call it quits in IL. Sorry. Dem strength appears to be Chicago,Joliet,etc. Look at all the red area!

Time to rebuild the Republican Party in IL before 2004.

20 posted on 11/07/2004 2:02:26 PM PST by donozark (UMA PEMMARAJU HAS HER EYE(S) ON ME!)
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To: JasonC
"The height shows county population."

I considered that at first, but ruled it out after looking at NM. The most populous county in NM is Bernalillo, by a HUGE margin, yet it's only slightly raised and actually shows as lower than some of the other counties. (it went just SLIGHTLY Kerry)

So it has to be some combination of winning vote margin and vote density. But, what the heck do I know. I didn't post it. :o
21 posted on 11/07/2004 2:02:32 PM PST by PrtzlLogic
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To: Beelzebubba

I thinkn it would be interesting to see the chart done by voter districts.


22 posted on 11/07/2004 2:02:51 PM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: mlocher

The blue in Alabama is the "black belt", an extremely poor section of the state.


23 posted on 11/07/2004 2:03:14 PM PST by BamaBlue
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To: MHT

esri.com I believe


24 posted on 11/07/2004 2:03:28 PM PST by donozark (UMA PEMMARAJU HAS HER EYE(S) ON ME!)
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To: Beelzebubba
What is the original source for this map? I have been searching for it since I saw it briefly on TV. The incredible tower of Chicago looks quite.... interesting.
25 posted on 11/07/2004 2:03:35 PM PST by ubu (puncturer of balloons--usually my own....)
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To: Beelzebubba

My stars! Does this mean the Chicago area is the most corrupt in the U.S.?


26 posted on 11/07/2004 2:03:46 PM PST by Nan48
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To: Beelzebubba

This is why we have an Electoral College.
Pretty smart those old founding fathers eh?


27 posted on 11/07/2004 2:04:17 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mlocher

That is a band of low income counties with high proportions of black voters. Artur Davis is their congress critter.


28 posted on 11/07/2004 2:04:41 PM PST by 6ppc (Pajamas are for wimps! Freep naked!)
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To: Beelzebubba

Anyone have a 3-D map of Anna K.?


29 posted on 11/07/2004 2:04:52 PM PST by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: Beelzebubba
This shows several "secession" alternatives, with the portions going to Canada and Mexico indicated.
30 posted on 11/07/2004 2:04:55 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: nonkultur
Wow high population cities must be pretty good at voter fraud.

Notice how high Chicago Zooms to the sky! Hit the nail on the head. Funny this is at the DU they are claiming we stole the election by rigging voting machines.

My Bush Country map. If anyone wants a high res image to annoy your liberal friends, freep mail me.


31 posted on 11/07/2004 2:05:05 PM PST by BushCountry (http://www.cafepress.com/bushcountry2004 <-- Want to annoy a liberal?)
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To: mlocher

I have exactly the same question. That blue belt is weird for Alabama. Maybe Montgomery & suburbs?


32 posted on 11/07/2004 2:05:20 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Beelzebubba

As if the folks in Alberta want to align with liberal America. No way.


33 posted on 11/07/2004 2:06:19 PM PST by donozark (UMA PEMMARAJU HAS HER EYE(S) ON ME!)
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To: dr_who_2

The height of the blocks appears to be county population.

Not density, and this creates some deception. Maricopa County looks voluminous, while urban counties having just as large population look spindly and less important if their county area doesn't include all that rural land. The map could be improved by making the Z axis equal to population density.


34 posted on 11/07/2004 2:07:44 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: dr_who_2
"Density" per square mile or "density" per total voting age population?

Best I can tell, it's WINNING vote density per county relative to the total country's vote -- because some counties with large populations that went only slightly one way or the other are only slightly raised. So, for example, a county that went to Kerry by a million votes would have a huge bar. Whereas a county with a population of 2 million that only slightly went to Kerry (by, say, 10,000 votes) would only be slightly raised.
35 posted on 11/07/2004 2:08:06 PM PST by PrtzlLogic
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To: Beelzebubba

Does living next to large water masses have anything to do with being liberal? Weird.


36 posted on 11/07/2004 2:08:23 PM PST by Nan48
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To: mlocher

Good question- in terms of topography there is a large valley that runs across the state where those blue counties are.


37 posted on 11/07/2004 2:08:26 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: mlocher

why is there a blue line in the center of alabama that extends into eastern missippi? that one has me stumped.



I'd guess that mid Alabama and the lower Mississippi valley are low-density areas populated predominantly by blacks.


38 posted on 11/07/2004 2:08:55 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba

wow.


39 posted on 11/07/2004 2:09:18 PM PST by King Prout (tagline under reconstruction)
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To: Beelzebubba

Where does Chicago end?


40 posted on 11/07/2004 2:09:44 PM PST by elizabetty
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To: AndyPH

This confirms my long-held theory that, with a few notable exceptions, city dwellers have a lower intellect.



I see it as people who like to be interdependent, and not independent, prefer cities, which further makes them more dependent (and I'm not just talking about welfare folks.)

Such people much more highly value the benefits of big government, and thus vote Democrat.


41 posted on 11/07/2004 2:10:32 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: CindyDawg

i agree. dems should be red, we should be blue. even peter jennings made a comment that the colors were controversial. i suspect they didn't give dems red because they were afraid it would be associated with communism and socialism. we should start a movement to switch the colors.


42 posted on 11/07/2004 2:11:32 PM PST by drhogan
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To: mlocher
I believe that might be the black crescent. "Black" for the color of the very rich soil not a racial slur. It is plantation country and most likely has a large rural African American population like the Mississippi Delta counties which you see is also blue.
43 posted on 11/07/2004 2:11:53 PM PST by Mark in the Old South
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To: donozark
Actually, I'd disagree. It suggests to me that it isn't Republican strength that needs to be rebuilt. It's Democrat GOTV/(cough)Fraud. Republicans should look for irregularities in the Chicago results, figure out what it was that the Democrats were doing there, modernize elections all over the state, and make damn sure their open and honest. If that means they'll have to clean up their house a little as well, then they shouldn't delay.

On the other hand, look at California. Bush ignored that state from the get go, but look at the insane turnout there. Either San Fran is solidly loony left, or California isn't in as bad shape as most people think that it is. I take it that the NorthEast wasn't competitive and is more like the "baseline" in a typical no-incumbent election.

What this map doesn't show too well is the difference between the solid red zones and the blue islands in the non-urban areas. That's important. Bill Clinton got elected twice because of those border regions.
44 posted on 11/07/2004 2:12:20 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: tet68

Founding fathers' average age 35?

They were wise beyond their years!


45 posted on 11/07/2004 2:12:21 PM PST by highflight (be alert - when a buzzard appears as an eagle!)
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To: Beelzebubba; Thinkin' Gal

Conclusion: Otis supported Kerry.


46 posted on 11/07/2004 2:13:33 PM PST by aculeus
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To: tet68

I meant to add - If they had forseen the County voting structure they would have based Electoral College Votes by County.

Does anyone know how many Counties W. won?

Thx


47 posted on 11/07/2004 2:14:02 PM PST by highflight (be alert - when a buzzard appears as an eagle!)
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To: Beelzebubba

What about the great Alaskan plateau up there? There can't be a high population density there.


48 posted on 11/07/2004 2:14:11 PM PST by dr_who_2
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To: pctech

both coasts and ms hit! "loving god" are the only two words that come to my mind. you too?


49 posted on 11/07/2004 2:14:16 PM PST by phxaz (w: the ppl who elected you want berger prosecuted.)
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To: PrtzlLogic
I considered that at first, but ruled it out after looking at NM. The most populous county in NM is Bernalillo, by a HUGE margin, yet it's only slightly raised and actually shows as lower than some of the other counties. (it went just SLIGHTLY Kerry)


I still think it is height=population, but I agree that Albuquerque (Bernalillo County) and Reno (Washoe County) appear to be missing. You shouldn't be able to hide 500,000-1,000,000+ people that easily.
50 posted on 11/07/2004 2:14:23 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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