Electoral map in three dimensions vividly shows results (Incredible!)

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[mlocher]

the line has no apparent freeway and seems to be between montgomery and birmingham. your hypothesis makes sense to me.

[Blessed]

All of the rural counties in the south that are blue are small agrarian counties with majority black populations.Look at the Miss.River. The flood plain on both sides is blue.

[Samwise]

Just like lab rats, people go crazy when too many are confined to too small of a space. Urban insanity.

[ImpeachandRemove]

Right. it can't be population because Houston doesn't show as very high. It must be winning margin. I think :)

[mlocher]

you and beelezebubba seem to have a correct hypothesis. thanks!

[dr_who_2]

Probably some patches like that in NE North Carolina.

[SteveMcKing]

They can't live without our farmlands. I say cut them off and build a wall around them. Don't let anyone out.

[Lijahsbubbe]

Ping

[Experiment 6-2-6]

PSST. You left MIAMI in....

[Atlas Sneezed]

I agree. Alaska makes no sense, unless the height is indeed some multiplier of percentage victory margin and population.

[fallujah-nuker]

Actual it shows the positive aspect of a war with China, remember the threat to nuke Los Angeles back in 1996? I can picture daring them to do it, like the movie where Danny DeVito's wife was kidnapped, and kept daring them to kill her.

[Jagdgewehr]

Where is New York City? Why is New York not as prominent as L.A. and Chicago?

[dr_who_2]

Then again, compare D.C. (around 89% Kerry) with Chicago and San Fran.

[Atlas Sneezed]

THank you.

The map source is:
http://esri.com/industries/elections/business/uspres_election2004.html

[MNJohnnie]

I see it as people who like to be interdependent, and not independent, prefer cities, which further makes them more dependent (and I'm not just talking about welfare folks.)

Such people much more highly value the benefits of big government, and thus vote Democrat


I think it also has to do with the fact that Government is pretty much the only industry most urban areas have. Therefore most of the people who live in urban areas have some connection with the Govt either via employment or the employment of friends and relatives.

[PrtzlLogic]

If it were height=population, Bernalillo would be the tallest in NM -- because it's not only the most populous, it's also the smallest and most densely-populated. I'm pretty sure it's the margin of winning votes (i.e.- the "density" of the winning vote margin), which is what I was attempting to say, albeit not as clearly as I could have. I don't think it has anything to do with population, in and of itself -- other than in how that population contributes to winning vote margins. It's almost easier to draw it:

EX (line represents height on graph):

2 million votes, 1 million vote margin for K/E: ==============================

2 million votes, 34,000 vote margin for K/E: =

[socal_parrot]

This deserves its own thread

It already has one...

Best 2004 Electoral/county map Yet

Proud to live in the tallest Red Tower on the map...

Orange County, CA!!!

[AmericaUnited]

Three or four well positioned sinkholes and America will forever be the land of the free and home of the brave."

[LurkedLongEnough]

How does that explain the blue in cities, though... they are not agrarian there... oh

[Aggie Mama]

I don't think height=population. Look at the Houston area (4th largest city in the country)-- it should be very tall. Conservatives live on the outskirts and Shelia Jackson Lee's constitutents live in the city. I think there was a good sized vote for Kerry in her district.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thank you! :^D

[Blessed]

Atlanta,Mongomery,Augusta,etc. are majority black.

[Tom602]

If they had forseen the County voting structure they would have based Electoral College Votes by County.

This is something that I have been pondering lately. Why couldn't we have a "STATE" electoral college?

Meaning, a candidate would have to win a majority of counties in order for the state to go for one candidate or another.

This way the ENTIRE STATE POPULATION is represented rather than the BIG urban centers.

How hard would it be to do this?

[GnL]

Hey, you're tossing in a big chunk of red PA and red NY. We don't want to be with those morons!

[Sweet_Sunflower29]

RED is my new favorite color!

[Peelod]

Anyone have a map with a red/blue breakdown by presidential vote in congressional district? I am especially interested in NY.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Perhaps it is simple absolute vote margin by county. Reno (Washoe, with over 150,000 votes) appears invisible, and it was 51% Bush - 47% Kerry in that county (7000 vote margin). This supports the total vote margin hypothesis.

The exact same thing is true of Albuquerque (Bernalillo County) which was 51-47, less than 10,000 vote difference, out of ~250,000 voters.

I think we have figured it out.

[puppetz]

Maybe its highest percentages for a particular candidate: if Kerry got 90% of the vote in that county then it would be very high.

[ReleaseTheHounds]

Did Philly get out 120% turn-out vs. the registered voters again? Amazing that stuff gets no media coverage.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

Has anyone seen the purple map? NPR said someone blended the reds and blues together, making shades of purple and lavender. That might be interesting to look at.

[Atlas Sneezed]

This deserves its own thread

It already has one...

Best 2004 Electoral/county map Yet

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Doh! (I wonder why my FR search for "map" found zero hits?)

[dr_who_2]

A good test of that might be to sum up the heights of all the red counties in Ohio and compare them with the combined height of all the big blue bars.

[mercy]

I'd rather the GOP be white and the Rats pink.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Hey, you're tossing in a big chunk of red PA and red NY. We don't want to be with those morons!

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Freedom has its price. That may include the cost of relocation, sorry to say. Look on the bright side: there would be many welcome emigrations from the red zone.

[thucydides]

After looking at the ESRI website, I don't think it's the margin, just the total votes per county, and then whoever won (by whatever margin) determines the color of the county. But this is a guess.

[Clemenza]

Broward County looks phallic between Miami-Dade and Palm Beach.

[festus]

And the Jihadi's want to target the large cities which form the core of their sympathizers........

[PISANO]

Government subsidized housing's revenge!!

[Political Junkie Too]

The height shows the vote differential between Kerry and Bush. Here's a scanned paper version:

Found from this thread.

-PJ

[Atlas Sneezed]

Has anyone seen the purple map? NPR said someone blended the reds and blues together, making shades of purple and lavender. That might be interesting to look at.

Here it is. It seems designed to blur the differences, and to minimize the impact of the widespread Bush victory (he got at least 40% support in 47 states, while Kerry failed to get 40% in 13 states.

A better way to illustrate vote strength (2000 election) keeps the Red and blue, with lighter shades for lower margins (white for even), instead of muddying up the picture with purples.

[Atlas Sneezed]

I don't think it's the margin, just the total votes per county, and then whoever won.

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No. See post 77.

[Doe Eyes]

Reminds me of one of those satellite views of the earth at night. Kerry only got votes from the area's that were lit up.

[nonkultur]

That San Fransico margin seems really interesting compared to NY and LA.

Chicago definately needs an investigation with nearly 1 million in the margin.

[Commie Basher]

i agree. dems should be red, we should be blue. even peter jennings made a comment that the colors were controversial. i suspect they didn't give dems red because they were afraid it would be associated with communism and socialism. we should start a movement to switch the colors.

I thought the same thing in 2000.

In 1988, the GOP was blue.

I never noticed the colors in 1992 and 1996. But when I noticed the colors in 2000, I thought maybe they switched the colors back and forth. So I was curious what color they'd use in 2004. Then I saw...red again?

[Pit1]

Looks Like the Dims inhabit the banks of the Mississippi River, almost all the way down. Or am I seeing things.

[ironman]

The height of the bar is vote margin (Bush-Kerry) for red, (Kerry-Bush) for blue.

[Political Junkie Too]

San Francisco's population isn't really that large. San Jose is a larger city than San Francisco.

-PJ

[Pit1]

Looks Like the Dims inhabit the banks of the Mississippi River, almost all the way down. Or am I seeing things.

[dr_who_2]

I'd like to see some definite numbers on number of votes versus number of registered voters and the number of registered voters versus the voting age population, region by region. Another thing to find out are your chances of getting a provisional (or normal?) ballot if it's not established at the precinct that you are eligible.

[Political Junkie Too]

The purple map, plus others, can be found in the link on my post 89. Take a look at the proportional map based on electoral votes.

-PJ