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Archaeologists May Have Found What Was Once The Biggest City In Italy
The Economist ^ | 11-4-2004

Posted on 11/07/2004 5:27:22 PM PST by blam

Scientific treasure hunters

Nov 4th 2004 | CLUSIUM, OR POSSIBLY NOT
From The Economist print edition

Archaeologists may have found what was once the biggest city in Italy

REAL archaeology bears about as much resemblance to an Indiana Jones movie as real spying bears to James Bond. Excavation—at least if it is to be meaningfully different from grave robbing—is a matter of painstaking trowel work, not gung-ho gold-grabbing. But there is still a glimmer of the grave robber in many archaeologists, and the search for a juicy royal tomb can stimulate more than just rational, scientific instincts.

Few tombs would be juicier than that of Lars Porsena, an Etruscan king who ruled in central Italy around 500BC. Porsena's tomb has been sought for centuries in the rubble under the Tuscan city of Chiusi, which is believed by most authorities to stand on the site of Porsena's capital, Clusium. No sign of it, however, has ever been found. And that, according to Giuseppe Centauro, of the University of Florence, is because everybody is looking in the wrong place.

Lars Porsena's place in history was ensured by his interference in the revolution that made Rome a republic. The last Roman king, Lucius Tarquinius, nicknamed “Superbus” because of his arrogance, was Etruscan. When he was deposed by the revolutionaries, he appealed to Porsena for help. There are conflicting accounts of whether Porsena succeeded in capturing and ruling Rome, or was forced to make peace with the revolutionaries. Either way, most of those accounts agree that he was eventually buried in a fabulous tomb near his home city of Camars, or Clusium as the Romans called it.

The Etruscans were big on tombs—constructing entire cities for the dead to inhabit—but Porsena's was supposedly the biggest of the lot. It was, according to one ancient source, a monument of rectangular masonry with a square base whose sides were 90 metres (about 300 feet) long and 15 metres high. On this base stood five pyramids, four at the corners and one in the centre, and the points of these pyramids supported a ring from which hung bells whose sound reached for miles when stirred by the wind. From this level rose five more pyramids, and from these another five.

Chiusi was clearly once an Etruscan city, but the evidence that it was actually Clusium boils down to the fact that the two names mean the same thing (“closed”). Such nominative determinism is hardly conclusive. Dr Centauro prefers his evidence to be wrought in stone, and he thinks the most persuasive pile of masonry around is actually on a mountainside near Florence.

At the moment, he is awaiting permission from the authorities to start digging there. But the above-ground remains convince him that he has found the real site of Clusium. He believes he has identified two concentric walls 17km (about ten miles) in circumference—certainly big enough to qualify as the biggest city in Italy before the rise of Rome, which is the reputation that Clusium had.

Such a site has not, of course, completely escaped archaeological attention in the past. A dig in an outlying part of it known as Gonfienti has been under way since 1998. Gabriella Poggesi, the archaeologist in charge of the Gonfienti dig, has unearthed the foundations of what was evidently a wealthy settlement on the banks of the Bisenzio river. She has also found evidence of great damage, probably from a flood that swept through in 480BC, after which the houses were abandoned.

This, Dr Centauro believes, is all grist to his theory. In his view, this riverside settlement was an affluent suburb situated on reclaimed land outside the city walls. He thinks it was built to cope with later expansion, and is younger than the site he now calls Clusium.

The outer walls of the main site are three metres thick, several metres high, uncemented and regular in construction. From the style of the masonry, Dr Centauro is convinced the remains are Etruscan. At corners where they have collapsed, small rooms are visible. These, he thinks, would have accommodated the sentries who manned the watchtowers.

So where is the tomb? And is it unlooted? Sadly for goldbugs, its riches are probably gone. In 89BC Cornelius Sulla, a Roman general, sacked Clusium and razed it to the ground. But if the ancient descriptions of the tomb are even a pale reflection of the truth, that amount of masonry is unlikely to have wandered far. So if Dr Centauro's hunch is right, and this is Clusium, the old king's secret may soon be dug up.


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To: Ptarmigan

bushushaski? Is that the langue from Chechnya/Ingushetia/Dagestan?


41 posted on 11/09/2004 10:42:08 PM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: TheCrusader; VadeRetro
Alexander the Great decided to go around Rome and leave it alone on his conquest of the known world.

huh???? Alex didn't even head west to conquer the Illyrians -- he headed to conquer the civilised states in the East -- Persia in particular. The Persian Empire was ripe for picking -- remember the Persians practically came up with the notion of an Empire, with bureaucracies and administration in place. The Persian Shah was also very weak (just a decade earlier, Macedonian mercenaries had nearly helped a minor son take the throne, so they knew the country) and by just tipping it over, he got a developed Empire falling into his lap

Rome at that time had just been sacked by the Celts (well, around that time).

When Alex reached India, he nearly got routed by a very minor Indian King -- Purva. His soldiers heard of the mighty Magadhan Empire (based in the Gangetic plains) with its gigantic army and basically told Alex to shove it -- they wouldn't head any further east.

Incidently, Greek commanders got Indianized and many settled in northern India, or moved east -- in what is now Kashmir there are folks (hunzas?) who are supposed to be near pure Greeks), while in Bengal tales of demonic figures and the Devi goddess are supposed to be linked to tribals fighting against a force led by Northern Indians with Greek mercenaries.
42 posted on 11/09/2004 10:49:50 PM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: TheCrusader
My personal opinion on why Alexander left the city-state Rome alone was that Rome had already gained a reputation as feirce fighters.

well, I don't think he considered them worthy of being conquered -- just as the Romans decided it was not worth going into Germania in the 1st century
43 posted on 11/09/2004 10:50:55 PM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: TheCrusader

Remember that Rome was sacked by the Gauls at around that time and then slowly rebuilt herself to fight in the Punic wars -- the third Punic war was the catalyst that pushed Rome into superpower status and helped her in her fight against the Alexandrine kingdoms in Greece, Syria and Egypt


44 posted on 11/09/2004 10:52:34 PM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: VadeRetro
Author Robin Lane Fox (The Search for Alexander) seems to think Nanda could have been overcome--it fell within a few years to the upstart Chandragupta--had Alexander not tried to cross the Punjab in the monsoon season.

Well, Chandragupta (the founder of the Mauryan Empire) did lead a gigantic army -- and his grandson Ashoka did rule over an Empire that incorporates most of what is now India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Burma (to some Extent) with vassalages in Central asia and the Tibetan plateau
45 posted on 11/09/2004 10:55:00 PM PST by Cronos (W2K4)
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I was simply reporting Fox, not particularly agreeing with him. That was a very chewed-up Macedonian force by the time it turned around. (And some of its worst traveling lay ahead.)
46 posted on 11/10/2004 7:08:49 AM PST by VadeRetro (A self-reliant conservative citizenry is a better bet than the subjects of an overbearing state. -MS)
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To: Cronos

Maybe. That's anyone's guess? They tried to link with Basque and Ainu.


47 posted on 11/10/2004 6:04:53 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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49 posted on 07/28/2010 4:49:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: blam

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50 posted on 07/28/2010 4:50:33 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: Ptarmigan

Some say Basque is related to Etruscan language.

Naah, they’re just basquing in their glory.


51 posted on 07/28/2010 4:56:24 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"Maybe. That's anyone's guess? They tried to link with Basque and Ainu."

The Relationship Between The Basque And Ainu

52 posted on 07/28/2010 5:15:09 PM PDT by blam
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