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The article as a whole is about gay marriage, but I thought that what really needs to be called to Freepers' attention is Shuster's condescending attitude towards all conservatives: Disagree with Davis Shuster and you're a racist, sexist Neanderthal.

Remember, this guy is blogging for Hardball on MSNBC's website. And he reports for MSNBC every day.

Bias? What media bias?

(And yes, I know the headline doesn't match, sorry. If I had used the proper headline nobody would have recognized the point of the post, so I changed it. There's only so much you can do with 100 characters.)

1 posted on 11/07/2004 9:52:20 PM PST by Dont Mention the War
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The website gives Shuster's email as DShuster@msnbc.com, but that's the "dump box" for the little people. His true email address, which he actually reads and uses for his daily work, is david.shuster@msnbc.com.


2 posted on 11/07/2004 9:53:40 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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Stoning...

Let's start with him. Smarmy arse snot.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 9:55:22 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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What school of reasoning is this?
4 posted on 11/07/2004 9:56:48 PM PST by elizabetty
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It is a choice, period. Having said that, I will leave them alone with their choice and they should leave me alone with it also.


5 posted on 11/07/2004 9:57:05 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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is something wired into the genes of approximately 3 or 4 percent of the human population in every single culture on the planet

How does this statement keep gettng repeated without any proof to support it? It assumes no difference between those that are supposedly "wired" and those that are led into a bad choice and, of course, does not allow for the reality of so many who have tried homosexuality and then left it behind. The number of those who are "wired" is not established at any such percentage by any proof that anyone ever cites who asserts this claim which proof will stand up to examination.

6 posted on 11/07/2004 9:59:06 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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The basic argument I heard was not about marriage (more on that below) but about being gay. And a majority of voters seem to believe that homosexuality is an "immoral lifestyle choice."

No, the question being addressed is whether a basic building block of society must be fundamentally altered because it is deemed by a few people to be unfair. It has nothing whatsoever to do with hatred toward anyone's lifestyle.

7 posted on 11/07/2004 10:00:47 PM PST by Inyokern
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Dems are historically illiterate. The Republican Party has its roots in the Abolition movement, and the Abolition movement has its roots in the church.

The Dems, on the other hand, historically are the party of slavery, and the Ku Klux Klan, and Jim Crow racial repression, and continue to be the party of ethnic division, while the Republicans continue to be where they always were, the party of color-blind citizenship.


8 posted on 11/07/2004 10:04:00 PM PST by marron
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10 posted on 11/07/2004 10:05:28 PM PST by timestax
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They are called Democrats.


11 posted on 11/07/2004 10:06:18 PM PST by nickcarraway
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"wired into the genes of approximately 3 or 4 percent of the human population "

Okay so that is his first lie. But I will go with it a second. Nature, through evolution, insures that abnormalities that do not support continuation of a species are automatically selected out.

In other words they do not reproduce successfully with others of the same genetic abnormality so that twig on the tree snips itself off in one generation.

Actually it is not as easy as that but that is the basics. Case closed.
12 posted on 11/07/2004 10:06:26 PM PST by JSteff
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Heterosexuals, homosexuals -- Last I checked, there's no sign hanging around their neck. They choose who they wish to have relationships with. That's a choice.

We choose not to legalize their relationships with the term 'marriage.' Life sucks, move on to something else.. The continued whining makes bigger and bigger backlashes.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 10:06:55 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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How many times do we have to hear this claim that the Bible only speaks to homosexuality in the Old Testament? Check out Romans 1.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 10:07:56 PM PST by Binghamton_native
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Hmmmm. The problem is that anybody who has a relative or friend who is gay also knows it is not a "choice."

On the question of choice, it must be noted that all sex but rape is voluntary and thus every sexual act involves a conscious choice. A person's inclination toward a form of sexual conduct may not, for any number of reasons, be consciously chosen, but the mere existence of desire does not justify the act. To accept otherwise would be to validate adultery and pedophilia. Society has the right to require people to suppress harmful desires, even if it is difficult for them to do so.

It is something wired into the genes of approximately 3 or 4 percent of the human population in every single culture on the planet.

There is plenty of evidence that homosexuality is not innate. There is a very considerable body of testimony from tens of thousands of men and women who once lived as homosexuals. These ex-"gays" have renounced their former lifestyles and many have become heterosexual in self-identification and desire, while others have stopped at the point of comfort with their own gender and freedom from same-sex desires.

The "gay" movement's challenge to former homosexuals to, in essence, prove they aren't still innately "gay" is the height of absurdity since homosexual immutability was never proven in the first place.

Why is the question of immutability so important? Because if homosexuality is not innate, it must be acquired. And if it can be acquired, we dare not allow homosexuality to be legitimized to our children. If there remains any shadow of doubt as to the cause of homosexuality, we must err on the side of protecting our children. Indeed we must actively discourage them from viewing homosexuality as safe and normal, when in fact it is demonstrably neither safe nor normal. It bears noting here that normalcy is functioning according to nature or design. Normalcy is not based on popular opinion.

16 posted on 11/07/2004 10:09:20 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (The reason the "youth vote" failed for democrats: 30 years of abortion.)
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Picture perfect example of a specious argument.

But speciousness is the measure of the day and fools people -- tickles their ears.

17 posted on 11/07/2004 10:09:50 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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I have a friend who has counseled hundreds of men and women who are earnestly trying to leave the homosexual lifestyle. He told me that about 98% of them admitted in counseling to having been introduced to homosexuality when they were molested by an older male (i.e, father, brother, neighbor, teacher, etc.). They became confused and began questioning their identity.

Instead of recognizing themselves as the "man" and "woman" that they are, they embraced the labels "gay" and "lesbian" as a false identity based on their imposed or chosen behavior. By embracing the label as a description of themselves they have locked themselves into an identity crisis. "I do this...therefore I must be gay." Which then becomes, "I am gay, therefore I must do this."

By reembracing their God-given identity as a "man" and "woman", forgetting the labels, they become empowered once again to choose their behaviors. They are no longer a slave to a label; they choose their passions and their behaviors. I think Anne Heche proved this was possible.

So, a person who does or receives a homosexual act is no more locked into being "gay" or "lesbian", than a person who drinks too much is locked into being a "drunk". In either case, if a person says, "I am a (gay, lesbian, drunk)," then they have enslaved themselves to a self-fulfilling prophecy, of which they must boast to feel approved. But it does not matter how proud they are to be a "gay" or a "lesbian" or a "drunk"; in the end, their decision to share a bed or take a drink tomorrow night is still a choice.

My friend works at Love In Action if you want to know more about this.

Here's an article from their site:
http://www.loveinaction.org/Resources/Literature/Understanding%20Homosexuality.pdf
18 posted on 11/07/2004 10:10:41 PM PST by grandOPUS
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Didn't he once work for Fox News Channel?

I think he was involved in a "parking lot incident" a few years ago. Might have been covering Florida 2000.

Didn't see him after that.


19 posted on 11/07/2004 10:11:18 PM PST by JohnnyP
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Keep it up, Schuster. Liberals equating butt-piracy with slavery is waking up a whole lot of blacks.


21 posted on 11/07/2004 10:14:17 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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This guy has the Old Testament. If he had considered what is said in the New, he may have been slower to speak. The Bible, in full context, stands alone with no crutch.


23 posted on 11/07/2004 10:16:40 PM PST by classmuse500
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Maybe some Americans want to return to the days of slavery, devout observance to the Sabbath, long hair, all cotton clothes, and stoning people... I would prefer that our society move forward.

i am guessing that this guy hasn't a clue what the difference is between the old testament and the new testament, yet he perseveres in quoting scripture, out of context. i too would like to see society move forward, just as jesus christ moved us from the law of the old testament to the "love thy neighbor as thyself" of the new testament. (note to schuster: the last quote is correct. it does not say, "love thy neighbor by endorsing big gov't" in the bible)

26 posted on 11/07/2004 10:20:57 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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As far as I know we've never stoned people in America.

We've hanged, shot and electrocuted them, not to mention today's lethal injection.

Going back to colonial days, we occasionally burned people alive or and pressed them to death.

But I am unaware of any stonings.


28 posted on 11/07/2004 10:26:30 PM PST by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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