I'll probably be pulled for this or considered a troll, but I'm actually willing to listen. If everyone wants to insult me, so be it, but it's sincere. I'm a liberal, and I know you guys don't like that.
I feel that I was lied to about this war. I feel that UBL hated Saddam (yes, I am familiar with the fact that both were mass murderers). And I think this war was a victory for UBL, because it distracted from the WOT.
Give me links to websites if you need to; just tell me why my country has not lost its mind. I'll probably still disagree, and that's OK. I just don't want to think we've gone mad. I usually go on left-wing sites, so maybe there's something I don't know.
Who lied to you? I do not understand why it is so difficult for some people to judge character. Bush does not lie for sport like his predecessor did. Nor is he totally deceptive. It is not his nature!
RELAX! The country has not lost it's mind. It's just going through withdrawl from socialism, globalism and amorality.
(This capitalist, free-market, superpower, self-reliant America First stuff really works, you know!)
The war in Iraq did not distract from the WOT.John sKerry distracted the war on terror.We could go into 30+ more countries and not distract from the war.You still haven't answered the question.
I'll try and do my best to address your concerns.
Bush Lied:
Why is it so hard for liberals to see the difference between an intentional lie (such as "I did not have sexual relations with that woman") and making a decision based on bad information? The CIA told Bush that they had a "slam dunk" against Saddam that proved he was developing WMD. British, Russian, and French intelligence all said the same thing. Also, the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee warned Bush that Saddam not only had WMDs, but was an imminent threat that needed to be dealt with. Who was the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee? None other than John F'n Kerry himself.
We already know that Saddam was a tyrant of the worst kind. Since the press has been too focused on bringing down Bush, they don't report the horrors that have been found in Saddam's mass graves. Women who were lined up and executed while still holding their children (yes - the children were executed too), and much worse. So far, we've found over 400,000 innocent Iraqis buried in these mass graves. Most of them were Kurdish, a group that Saddam hated, so he just killed as many of them as he could.
We already know for a fact that Saddam had "tested" chemical weapons on the Kurdish people and it seemed perfectly reasonable to assume that he was still developing these weapons.
Saddam had to go, and the CIA saying it was a "slam dunk" that Saddam was developing WMDs was just the icing on the cake. Bush's only fault was believing the intelligence reports. It's disappointing that we haven't found any WMDs, but the world is MUCH better off without Saddam Hussein in power.
We, Red State, people will do the fighting for you. Or not for you. You go ahead and live your life. Sleep well, eat a big breakfast. Drive your Honda. Read Mother Jones by the fire. Feed the squirrels. Somewhere your betters, real men and women, are on patrol in Falooja, standing midnight watch far to Sea, flying with the moon and stars seven miles high, or resting in a hero's grave in a small town in America.
Oh, yeah, did I mention that Saddam Hussein was the ONLY leader in the world who openly praised the 9/11 attack against the U.S.
But if you really want to believe that Bush is the bad guy, then go right ahead. Poor Saddam... getting picked on by that evil Bush guy who lied to Americans about WMD.
Give me a freakin' break!
Do you think Clinton, Gore, Kerry, et. al. were lying to you when they said virtually the same thing that Bush did or are you simply another hack partisan who can't think/reason for him/herself?
Can you not see the strategic advantage of establishing a beachhead in the war on terror at the epicenter of its roots? Did you fail to notice how Libya and other Aftican nations started to cooperate after we invaded Iraq? Do you not understand that the terrorists are after control of mideast oil our would you have preferred that we let them have it? Did you miss the part where many/most intelligence offices think Saddam moved his WMD into Syria? Did you not ever understand what the Salmon Pak complex was for?
One last point. Remember the tape released by bin Laden 4 days before the election? Did you take the time to read the transcript? It sounds just like a Kerry campaign speech. Seriously. Does that not make you look in the mirror and wonder why the world's most evil man is saying the exact same things as your party's leaders? What happened to the old Democratic party that was willing to stand up for America and didn't blame it for all the world's problems? You guys need to get away from the far-left America-hating loonies like Michael Moore, or you'll never win another election again.
Have you read this book by Laurie Mylroie called The War Against America?
She makes the case that Saddam was involved in 9-11.
I am not sure she is right, but she has some interesting information.
Also, after 9-11 how can we let someone like Saddam be sponsoring terrorists and giving them money and weapons?
He had biological and chemical weapons. If he got rid of them, he knew how to make more fast enough.
Even of OBL and Saddam hated each other, theat doesn't mean they won't cooperate against an enemy. We didn't love Stalin, but he was our ally to beat the NAZIS.
The French, Russians, Arabs and others were getting bribes from Saddam to promote his policies in the UN. He was very corrupting. I think this war is worth it.
Feelings...nothing more then feelings....
That must have been why they were having talks in the nineties about Saddam giving UBL refuge in Iraq, because they hated each other.
Whatever. Go forth and read some of the reports from back then.
You still have time to come over from the Dark side......
Don't live up to your name do you....
If you do usually go to left-wing sites, then there's no "maybe" about it.