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Operation Phantom Fury Live Thread
msnbc, cnn, various ^ | epluribus_2

Posted on 11/08/2004 8:39:55 AM PST by epluribus_2

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq - More than 4,000 U.S. Marines and Army troops punched their way into northeastern Fallujah on Monday, kicking off a massive assault dubbed Operation Phantom Fury that seeks to put an end to half a year of insurgent control of the Sunni Muslim city.

The prelude to the assault on the Askari neighborhood was a crushing air and artillery bombardment of the city that rose to a crescendo by Monday evening, with U.S. strike jets dropping bombs around the clock and big guns pounding the city every few minutes with high-explosive shells.

Meanwhile, insurgents in Baghdad and nearby Ramadi tried to keep up the pressure on the coalition forces with new attacks, including one on a Catholic church in the capital.

Earlier Monday U.S. troops had fought their way into the city's western outskirts, seizing two bridges over the Euphrates River and helping Iraqi soldiers take the city's main hospital in the first stage of a major assault on the insurgent stronghold.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falluja; fallujah; iraq; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; usmc; wot
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To: Dead Dog

Recall during the March on Baghdad & the first month or so of war, many of us had no sleep.. watching for whatever would be next. Feel some deja vu...


801 posted on 11/08/2004 3:58:47 PM PST by DollyCali (Winning isn't everything. But losing really sucks. Sorry sKerry. You're a loser in all respects.)
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To: No Blue States

Allawi should have actually _itch slapped Annan into a state of reality.


802 posted on 11/08/2004 3:58:56 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: epluribus_2; All
My son was listening to a group today by the name of Pillar. These are young Christian artists and their music is heavy in its sound. I began reading about this group to see where they stand in matters of faith and I came across this information.

The following song, Frontline, was written by the founding member of the band who was recently discharged from military service having served his time. His father is still in the Middle East through 2005. The lyrical content of this song seems aptly fit for this action being taken by our troops. He wrote this song as a tribute of sorts to his brothers in service and as a rally cry for all Christians so I guess I could say it has double meaning. In either case, they rock and if you like that sort of music they are worth taking a look at.

http://www.pillarmusic.com

Frontline

It’s not like I’m walking alone into the valley of the shadow of death
Stand beside one another, ‘cause it ain’t over yet
I’d be willing to bet that if we don’t back down
You and I w
ill be the ones that are holding the Crown in the end When it’s over, we can say, “Well done”
But not yet, ‘cause it’s only begun
So, pick up, and follow me, we’re the only ones
To fight this thing, until we’ve won
We drive on and don’t look back
It doesn’t mean we can’t learn from our past
All the things that we mighta done wrong
We could’ve been doing this all along

Everybody, with your fists raised high
Let me hear your battle cry tonight
Stand beside, or step aside
We’re on the frontline

And we’ll be carrying on, until the day it doesn’t matter anymore
Step aside, you forgot what this is for
We fight to live, we live to fight
And tonight, you’ll hear my battle cry
We live our lives on the frontlines
We’re not afraid of the fast times
These days have opened up my eyes
And now, I see where the threat lies

We’ve got to lead the way

803 posted on 11/08/2004 4:01:09 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: DollyCali
Thanks for that ping on Diogenesis pics, I might have overlooked them. He does excellent work.

Our troops look very tough brave and determined.Thats a must see thread.

804 posted on 11/08/2004 4:07:39 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Wolfstar; Boot Hill; Timeout
Listening to the media tonight come to the conclusion that there are not many terrorists or their leaders(Zarqawi) in Fallujah.......has convinced me that Zarqawi is there and will be found.

The US media always reading it wrong..

805 posted on 11/08/2004 4:07:46 PM PST by Dog
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To: epluribus_2
Operation Phantom Nuisance.
806 posted on 11/08/2004 4:11:36 PM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
No 'nuance' here. Swearing by G-- the threat that follows does not make that a religious statement. These clerics are nothing more than terrorists and need to be hunted down and killed.

You think that that is something.

Saudi Al-Majd TV Host Hisham Khreisat: Ramadan, the Month of Jihad

10/17/2004 Clip No. 290

The following are excerpts from a monologue by Al-Majd TV host Hisham Khreisat on Ramadan:

Hisham Khereisat: This great month (of Ramadan) is a month of fasting, a month of blessings and victory, a month of Jihad and martyrdom. Dear viewers, the battles that took place in Ramadan were decisive ones, which we have discussed and perhaps will discuss further in future programs.

The month of Ramadan has always been the month of Jihad since the Great Battle of Badr in the time of the Prophet and to this day. They have always been battles of victory and liberation. The most decisive battles in the life of the nation were always in Ramadan.

Ramadan isn't a month of negligence, sloth, helplessness, submission and retreat, but it is a month of heroism, work, effort, and sacrifice, a month of martyrdom and martyrs. Thus we have been taught by history, by the Koran, and by this living nation who, Allah willing, will remain alive thanks to the blood of its martyrs, the sweat of its prisoners, the blood of its wounded, and the sacrifice of its sons in the course of time.

807 posted on 11/08/2004 4:13:38 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: epluribus_2

808 posted on 11/08/2004 4:20:48 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Bob Beckel is an IDIOT ....... That is all !)
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To: Dog
..has convinced me that Zarqawi is there and will be found.

I think it may have been hard for him to leave without being caught. In any case shoot any women with beards.

809 posted on 11/08/2004 4:23:06 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: PleaseNoMore

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1272716/posts

Marines turn to God ahead of anticipated Fallujah battle


810 posted on 11/08/2004 4:31:19 PM PST by DollyCali (Winning isn't everything. But losing really sucks. Sorry sKerry. You're a loser in all respects.)
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To: No Blue States
Somebody PLEASE kill Al Sadr. Why is he not considered just another thug preying on Iraqis who needs a lead injection?

Sadr's men to stand for election in Iraq poll

Some followers of radical Shia leader Moqtada al-Sadr will run in Iraq's parliamentary elections scheduled for January as part of an alliance of Shia parties, representatives of the movement said yesterday.

The declaration by Sadr officials coincided with an announcement by representatives of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the senior Iraqi cleric sponsoring the list, that agreement had been reached among Iraq's main Shia parties on how to divide up the seats.

"We achieved a fair share of the list. We will participate in the elections," said Mahmoud al-Sudany, a Sadr spokesman in Sadr City, the suburb of north-east Baghdad where the movement commands the loyalty of voters estimated to run into the hundreds of thousands.

Fallujah assault not justified: Sadr

Iran supporting al-Qaida terror

U.S. military, intelligence services now certain Tehran backing Iraq Islamists tied to bin LadenAccording to Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, al-Qaida-linked terrorists have been observed moving supplies and new recruits from Iran to Iraq, say the sources. While it has long been known Iran was backing the uprising led by Moqtada al-Sadr in the southern Shiite region of Iraq, the Iranian ties to Sunni Islamist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a terrorist leader who has pledged his allegiance to Osama bin Laden, has not been certain.

Car bomb wounds security chief of Iraq's Kufa

06 Nov 2004 10:06:17 GMT Source: Reuters

KUFA, Iraq, Nov 6 (Reuters) - A car bomb explosion wounded the head of security in the Shi'ite Muslim shrine town of Kufa in southern Iraq on Saturday, witnesses said.

They said several people were wounded when the bomb went off as a convoy carrying the security chief, Abdel-Aal al-Kufi, passed through the town, 150 km (94 miles) south of Baghdad.

Kufa has been a stronghold for anti-U.S. Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, whose followers left the town in August after he agreed to end a revolt that led to weeks of heavy fighting with U.S.-led troops there and in nearby Najaf.

Iraqi security forces later banned Sadr followers from praying in Kufa, where the young cleric once preached weekly.

811 posted on 11/08/2004 4:35:34 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: unspun
More "negative advertising" --against the terrorists' own cause.

The stupid SOBs love it.

812 posted on 11/08/2004 4:39:12 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Nov 9 2004

Headline: Thousands of troops sweep into Fallujah to start bloody showdown with *fanatics*

By Jim Krane

(excerpted) Zarqawi's *thugs* kidnapped and beheaded British engineer Ken Bigley. They also claimed responsibility for the suicide car bomb last week which killed three Black Watch soldiers.

The asterisks are mine for emphasis. Thugs and Fanatics? Tell it like it is! This article is from the UK but check his wording out. Not "insurgents" or some other BS.

You dont see this often when hunting articles.
There is hope for the UK.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14850282%26method=full%26siteid=89488%26headline=phantom%2dfury%2dunleashed-name_page.html

Meanwhile the lefties came out with half a dozen negative Fallujah articles not even worthy of kindling.


813 posted on 11/08/2004 4:42:11 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: DollyCali
Marines Await Orders to Attack Fallujah

10/29/2004

They are no longer waiting DC.

814 posted on 11/08/2004 4:46:20 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dog
What? You have no faith in the intelligence services of the MSM? Oh, yee of little faith!

--Boot Hill

815 posted on 11/08/2004 4:49:02 PM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Dog
The US media always reading it wrong.

Most of them are a pathetic bunch of over-paid dolts.

816 posted on 11/08/2004 4:50:35 PM PST by Wolfstar (Yippeeeee!!!! A great election victory AND a new puppy in the White House. Life is good.)
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To: TexKat

So was it decided Al Sadr would not be tried for murder afterall, and instead be given a voice in Iraqs politics?

If so, seeing is believing. He has an unhill climb.
I wonder where he is, maybe he will be involved in an accident.


817 posted on 11/08/2004 4:55:25 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: DollyCali

How many of us stayed up that first night watching them race across the desert. Nothing to see in any direction except empty desert?


818 posted on 11/08/2004 4:55:54 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: RobRoy

Where do you get camo pajamas?
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819 posted on 11/08/2004 4:57:20 PM PST by 714thinker
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Kudos to these brave Iraqis for their 2 victories today:

(excerpt)
"Despite the desertions, Iraq's nascent security forces celebrated two apparent victories Monday. In the flash-point town of Iskandariyah, a deadly zone south of Baghdad, Iraqi police disguised as civilians ambushed a rebel checkpoint and killed 25 insurgents, according to Iraqi government officials.

A Babylon province intelligence officer who wouldn't give his name for security reasons told Knight Ridder that 60 officers stormed the checkpoints and sustained no casualties. The all-Iraqi operation came after a string of large-scale attacks on Iraqi security personnel throughout the country.

"They were criminal, armed terrorists and we destroyed them all," the officer said.

The second success was part of the initial push into Fallujah late Sunday night. Men described as elite Iraqi commandos backed by U.S. troops stormed across a bridge and took over Fallujah's main hospital amid enemy fire, according to a news release from the Iraqi government.

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/world/10130991.htm


820 posted on 11/08/2004 4:58:50 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Timeout
Bump

Camp Pendleton Marines represent yourselves

Cee-gar Man US Marine

Pendleton Marines In Fight For Fallujah

IMAGES: Pendleton Marines In Fallujah

821 posted on 11/08/2004 4:59:30 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Wipe them out,all of them.....


822 posted on 11/08/2004 5:03:17 PM PST by Senator_Palpatine
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To: DollyCali
Ask and you shall receive...


823 posted on 11/08/2004 5:09:14 PM PST by NCjim
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To: No Blue States
maybe he will be involved in an accident.

Thats the only way I see Mooky being out of the picture. An unfortunate accident.

Besides this being a war on the battlefield, it is also a political one. President GWB, his administration, and some of the American people versus the Arab islamic clerics and Arab people in power in multiple Arab countries that resist democracy and want to keep their people in the dark ages.

Some of these same islamic clerics and islamic leaders are supporting Mooky behind the scene with money and supplies.

824 posted on 11/08/2004 5:10:49 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: 714thinker
For the French troops
825 posted on 11/08/2004 5:15:17 PM PST by SouthTexas
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To: mystery-ak

I wish they would name it Operation Green Glass...


826 posted on 11/08/2004 5:17:28 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [Clinton/Pelosi in '08!!!})
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To: ken5050

You wrote:

We never did it for the money.....



Tag line material!!!!!


827 posted on 11/08/2004 5:32:10 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [Clinton/Pelosi in '08!!!})
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'Worse to come': Phantom Fury turns to Dawn

The skies above Fallujah burned red overnight as artillery, war planes and tanks pounded the Iraqi rebel bastion and US troops poured in at the start of an operation to retake the city.

Iraq's Defence Minister Sheikh Hazem Shaalan warns that worse is to follow as the US-backed government battles to retake the city, the symbol of a potent insurgency that is bent on undermining its plans to hold elections by January.

"Tomorrow is the large-scale operation to retake the city," he said.

"We've called it Operation Dawn. God willing, it's going to be a new, happy dawn for the people of Fallujah."

Shaalan said some insurgents had already fled and vowed to catch them.

"But our intelligence services are tracking them and we are going to get them and teach them a lesson that they would never forget."

Avenge the victims of terrorists, says Allawi

Just before the official battle started - involving 12,000 US and Iraqi troops, Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi paid a surprise visit to the thousands of Iraqi troops also camped out around Fallujah, poised for action.

"Your job is to arrest the killers but if you kill them then let it be," he said.

"You need to avenge the victims of the terrorists like the 37 children who were killed in Baghdad and the 49 of your colleagues who were slaughtered," he said, referring to two of the deadliest attacks unleashed by insurgents loyal to Iraq's most wanted militant and Al-Qaeda frontman Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

Iraqi and US officials believe that Zarqawi and his followers have turned Fallujah into an operating base. They gave the residents an ultimatum to surrender the militants or face assault, but city leaders insist such people are not there.

Allawi said uprooting extremists from Fallujah is the only way ``to safeguard lives, elections and democracy in Iraq''.

He has rejected UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan's warning against attacking the city, according to a letter obtained today by The Associated Press.

Allawi's diplomatic rebuke was in response to Annan's letter late last week warning the leaders of the United States, Britain and Iraq that an all-out assault on Fallujah could undermine national elections set for January and further alienate Iraqis. Iraq's Defence Minister Sheikh Hazem Shaalan warns that worse is to follow as the US-backed government battles to retake the city, the symbol of a potent insurgency that is bent on undermining its plans to hold elections by January.

"Tomorrow is the large-scale operation to retake the city," he said.

"We've called it Operation Dawn. God willing, it's going to be a new, happy dawn for the people of Fallujah."

Shaalan said some insurgents had already fled and vowed to catch them.

"But our intelligence services are tracking them and we are going to get them and teach them a lesson that they would never forget."

828 posted on 11/08/2004 5:37:25 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

It looks like the worse is to come tomorrow....


829 posted on 11/08/2004 5:41:44 PM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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To: No Blue States; All
'Iraqi police disguised as civilians ambushed a rebel checkpoint and killed 25 insurgents,'

maybe they killed these guys, where this stupid AP photographer managed to take some stunning shots of the "freedom fighters.

here's a pic of them burying 7 insurgents today.

Question:

Why don't they just lay down some sewer pipe while they have the chance?


830 posted on 11/08/2004 5:53:47 PM PST by bitt (I miss Teresa already.)
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To: No Blue States
Falluja Raid Iraq's 'Least Damaging Choice'-Envoy

Mon Nov 8, 2004 06:29 PM ET

By Irwin Arieff

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - An assault on Falluja was Iraq's "least damaging choice" for providing security for civilians in the rebel-held city, Baghdad's U.N. ambassador said he told Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Monday.

Annan had warned the United States, Britain and Iraq that an assault on Falluja risked further dividing the Iraqi people and jeopardizing planned January elections. This drew a rebuttal from Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.

U.N. officials particularly fear a large-scale attack on Falluja could provoke an election boycott by Sunni Muslims and undermine efforts to promote stability in a country already deeply divided along religious and ethnic lines.

But Iraqi Ambassador Samir Sumaidy said he told Annan that Falluja's residents would be "very unlikely to participate in any elections in the current conditions."

"We have very few choices. We have to choose the least damaging, the least dangerous of all the choices ahead of us, and that is to return law and order to Falluja and return some level of security for the civilians, because at the moment they have no security," Sumaidy told reporters.

The two men met shortly after U.S. Marines launched a full-scale assault to retake the city. But Sumaidy said boycott fears were unrelated to the question of a military assault.

"The action in Falluja is directed against terrorists, not against those that want to take part in the election or not take part in the election," he said.

A U.N. spokesman said Annan and Sumaidy had "discussed their differing perspectives" but agreed on the importance of establishing a relationship based on mutual understanding.

The meeting was the first since Allawi sent Annan an angry letter rejecting the U.N. secretary-general's warning that an assault might jeopardize the elections.

"The terrorists and insurgents operating from places like Falluja ... are not looking simply for a delay; they want the whole political process to fail. They would not be appeased by a delay, but rather encouraged by one," Allawi wrote Annan.

In letters to Allawi, President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Annan "was merely warning that use of force could destabilize the country at a critical point in the preparation for the elections," said U.N. chief spokesman Fred Eckhard.

But Allawi said "the same group who murdered so many of your staff in the bombing of the U.N. headquarters last year has since murdered hundreds of innocent Iraqis and committed countless other atrocities." He was referring to the August 2003 bombing of U.N. offices in Baghdad that killed 22 people.

831 posted on 11/08/2004 5:57:54 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: bitt
What a waste that ditch will hold more than 7 terrorists. Im thinking 2 dozen.
832 posted on 11/08/2004 6:00:09 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: DollyCali

833 posted on 11/08/2004 6:03:14 PM PST by bitt (I miss Teresa already.)
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To: mystery-ak
Its already going on mystery. Reminder: the time difference.

Jean Araff(sp?) with CNN is embedded with one of the units. She has reported that our guys have spent an hour or more discharging or blowing up booby traps. Lots and lots of booby traps.

Jean Araff(sp?), I don't see how she does it, she has spent a lot of time in Iraq and has seen numerous bodies blown to bits. I don't know how she can get a good nights sleep.

834 posted on 11/08/2004 6:04:20 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: NCjim

Can you justimagine when she shows that to her grandchildren in 40 years or so?


835 posted on 11/08/2004 6:04:52 PM PST by ken5050
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To: TexKat

>>A U.N. spokesman said Annan and Sumaidy had "discussed their differing perspectives" but agreed on the importance of establishing a relationship based on mutual understanding. <<

i detest this kinda PC cr*p talk.. it says nothing... mumbo jumbo.. so different then how W and Rummy, and Allawi talk - crystal clear and black and white.
maybe it's just because i'm an eegnerant red neck..


836 posted on 11/08/2004 6:06:33 PM PST by sdpatriot
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To: TexKat
In letters to Allawi, President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Annan "was merely warning that use of force could destabilize the country at a critical point in the preparation for the elections," said U.N. chief spokesman Fred Eckhard.

I bet Allawi CC'ed President Bush and PM Blair his response. Bush and Blair had to be chuckling.

"Allawi told Annan, "I was a little surprised by the lack of any mention in your letter of the atrocities which these groups have committed."

837 posted on 11/08/2004 6:06:48 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: All

New left/democrat talking point, "Bush waited for election to attack".


838 posted on 11/08/2004 6:08:43 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: mystery-ak; No Blue States
LOU DOBBS TONIGHT

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JANE ARRAF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're on the outskirts on the northeast side of the city. But other units of task force 22 from the Army's 1st Infantry Division had been moving further in, as far in as 800 meters into the city.

Out here in between, they have been blowing up railroad tracks to allow them to move further. They've also, for more than an hour, been decimating a series of booby traps.

This is what U.S. forces had expected and had feared as they began to move into the city, that there was a series of improvised explosive devices, homemade bombs, laid out in patterns to try to prevent them from moving in. The Army, the units that we're with, have been firing at these with tanks, causing huge explosions.

This is a sector of the city where there are very few civilians. In fact, officials have told us that they believe insurgents have prevented civilians from moving back into this area as they've been rigging up buildings, barriers and almost everything else with these homemade bombs.

They are continuing to detonate them, and they are now detonating -- the Army is blowing up railroad tracks to allow them to go further.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

DOBBS: That Jane Arraf reporting from the outskirts of Falluja, embedded with Task Force 22 of the Army's 1st Infantry Division. If that division slows down enough over the course of the next 45 minutes, and Jane has the opportunity, we'll, of course, be going live to her for the very latest on the -- on the progress of this offensive.

839 posted on 11/08/2004 6:10:49 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sdpatriot
eegnerant red neck

eegnerant red necks need love too.

840 posted on 11/08/2004 6:12:43 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Brave woman...

"the Army is blowing up railroad tracks to allow them to go further."

What cant make it over railroad tracks I wonder.

841 posted on 11/08/2004 6:13:51 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: TexKat

TexKat, or anyone who knows... how are Mr. and Mrs Cee-gar man doing? last i read was the letter posted by Mrs. Cee-gar about his eyes.. Cee-gar has been in my prayers - and his family. i've rarely seen a picture that just makes me smile like this one... handsome handsome... : ) and that grin.. is a killer. i would love to know how he is doing..


842 posted on 11/08/2004 6:14:59 PM PST by sdpatriot
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To: bitt

LMFAO....hilarious.


843 posted on 11/08/2004 6:17:02 PM PST by surfatsixty (Proud Father of a USMC Grunt.)
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To: bitt
Question: Why don't they just lay down some sewer pipe while they have the chance?

That would just be a waste of good sewer pipe. As the bodies decay underneath it over time, the pipe will lose support and be stressed along its length, leading to early failure.

No, far better to douse the dead insurgents in pig fat then set them ablaze. Saves on electricity for streetlights and serves as fuel to keep boilers and generators humming along.

844 posted on 11/08/2004 6:18:49 PM PST by asgardshill (Bad Liberal - No Kool Aid)
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To: bitt
Why don't they just lay down some sewer pipe...?

Isn't that what they're doing?

845 posted on 11/08/2004 6:20:14 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: TexKat

First of all, the UN building was attacked because they foolishly insisted on making themselves a soft target by adamantly refusing to have US military protection placed around their stinkin' building. So the UN damfools were educated about the equal opportunity aspect of murderous puke terrorists.

Secondly, I don't buy that the Sunni's will decide to boycott the elections because of the Fallujah operation, but even if they do, so WHAT!?! Voting is optional in this country too. You don't vote, you have no right whatsoever to complain about the elected officials.

Third, Koffee Annus couldn't care less about any aspect of democratic elections in Iraq. Unless whoever is elected can somehow be made to resume payments and kickbacks to Annan, perhaps. Otherwise all he's concerned with is opposing America at every turn and step in perfect lock-step with his butt-buddy Chirac.

Good article Texkat. (/rant)

Prairie


846 posted on 11/08/2004 6:20:47 PM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: TexKat

You're right, I don't know what I was thinking..they are 9hrs ahead..this was about the time Mike used to e-mail me from Balad..pre-dawn...Who has the best coverage....?


847 posted on 11/08/2004 6:23:55 PM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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To: prairiebreeze

Thats the best Rant of the day imo.


848 posted on 11/08/2004 6:24:22 PM PST by No Blue States ("May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted, and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: TexKat

The first one really bothers you. Then if they quit bothering you it is time to get out.


849 posted on 11/08/2004 6:28:26 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Death waits in the darkness. NSDQ)
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To: sdpatriot

Well, lord love a duck...do you mean to say that Mr Ceegar Guy is a freeper?


850 posted on 11/08/2004 6:29:26 PM PST by Conservababe (Liberal...One whose mind is so open the brains are spilling out.)
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