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To: TexKat

So was it decided Al Sadr would not be tried for murder afterall, and instead be given a voice in Iraqs politics?

If so, seeing is believing. He has an unhill climb.
I wonder where he is, maybe he will be involved in an accident.


817 posted on 11/08/2004 4:55:25 PM PST by No Blue States
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Kudos to these brave Iraqis for their 2 victories today:

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"Despite the desertions, Iraq's nascent security forces celebrated two apparent victories Monday. In the flash-point town of Iskandariyah, a deadly zone south of Baghdad, Iraqi police disguised as civilians ambushed a rebel checkpoint and killed 25 insurgents, according to Iraqi government officials.

A Babylon province intelligence officer who wouldn't give his name for security reasons told Knight Ridder that 60 officers stormed the checkpoints and sustained no casualties. The all-Iraqi operation came after a string of large-scale attacks on Iraqi security personnel throughout the country.

"They were criminal, armed terrorists and we destroyed them all," the officer said.

The second success was part of the initial push into Fallujah late Sunday night. Men described as elite Iraqi commandos backed by U.S. troops stormed across a bridge and took over Fallujah's main hospital amid enemy fire, according to a news release from the Iraqi government.

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/world/10130991.htm


820 posted on 11/08/2004 4:58:50 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
maybe he will be involved in an accident.

Thats the only way I see Mooky being out of the picture. An unfortunate accident.

Besides this being a war on the battlefield, it is also a political one. President GWB, his administration, and some of the American people versus the Arab islamic clerics and Arab people in power in multiple Arab countries that resist democracy and want to keep their people in the dark ages.

Some of these same islamic clerics and islamic leaders are supporting Mooky behind the scene with money and supplies.

824 posted on 11/08/2004 5:10:49 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: No Blue States
Falluja Raid Iraq's 'Least Damaging Choice'-Envoy

Mon Nov 8, 2004 06:29 PM ET

By Irwin Arieff

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - An assault on Falluja was Iraq's "least damaging choice" for providing security for civilians in the rebel-held city, Baghdad's U.N. ambassador said he told Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Monday.

Annan had warned the United States, Britain and Iraq that an assault on Falluja risked further dividing the Iraqi people and jeopardizing planned January elections. This drew a rebuttal from Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.

U.N. officials particularly fear a large-scale attack on Falluja could provoke an election boycott by Sunni Muslims and undermine efforts to promote stability in a country already deeply divided along religious and ethnic lines.

But Iraqi Ambassador Samir Sumaidy said he told Annan that Falluja's residents would be "very unlikely to participate in any elections in the current conditions."

"We have very few choices. We have to choose the least damaging, the least dangerous of all the choices ahead of us, and that is to return law and order to Falluja and return some level of security for the civilians, because at the moment they have no security," Sumaidy told reporters.

The two men met shortly after U.S. Marines launched a full-scale assault to retake the city. But Sumaidy said boycott fears were unrelated to the question of a military assault.

"The action in Falluja is directed against terrorists, not against those that want to take part in the election or not take part in the election," he said.

A U.N. spokesman said Annan and Sumaidy had "discussed their differing perspectives" but agreed on the importance of establishing a relationship based on mutual understanding.

The meeting was the first since Allawi sent Annan an angry letter rejecting the U.N. secretary-general's warning that an assault might jeopardize the elections.

"The terrorists and insurgents operating from places like Falluja ... are not looking simply for a delay; they want the whole political process to fail. They would not be appeased by a delay, but rather encouraged by one," Allawi wrote Annan.

In letters to Allawi, President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, Annan "was merely warning that use of force could destabilize the country at a critical point in the preparation for the elections," said U.N. chief spokesman Fred Eckhard.

But Allawi said "the same group who murdered so many of your staff in the bombing of the U.N. headquarters last year has since murdered hundreds of innocent Iraqis and committed countless other atrocities." He was referring to the August 2003 bombing of U.N. offices in Baghdad that killed 22 people.

831 posted on 11/08/2004 5:57:54 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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