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Globes open to 'Passion'; 'Fahrenheit' is out
Hollywood Reporter ^ | 11/08/2004

Posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:42 AM PST by presidio9

Two of this year's most-talked-about films have hit snags on the road to awards season, specifically in their quest to secure nominations for the Golden Globes. Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" is out of the running, while Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" cannot compete in the best-drama category.

"Fahrenheit" (Lions Gate/IFC/Fellowship Adventure Group) will not be eligible in any Globes categories because it is a documentary. The rules of the Hollywood Foreign Press Assn., which administers the Globes, state that docus are ineligible for consideration in the top film award categories; there is not a separate documentary category.

"Passion" (Newmarket) cannot compete for best drama because it is considered a foreign-language film. The HFPA considers any feature with a non-English dialogue track to be a foreign film. The organization's rules reserve the best picture awards for movies in English.

"Passion," in which much of the dialogue is spoken in Aramaic, can be considered for best foreign film and under the rules can compete in all other categories.

Nominations for the 62nd annual Golden Globe Awards will be announced Dec. 13, with the winners revealed in a Jan. 16 ceremony to be telecast live on NBC.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: awards; goldenglobes; thepassion

1 posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:42 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

In your face, Moore. In your fat face.


2 posted on 11/09/2004 6:21:28 AM PST by cwiz24 (Hey Democrats---Now who's ya daddy?)
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To: presidio9

LOL! The bitch slapping has only begun for Michael Mooron.


3 posted on 11/09/2004 6:21:50 AM PST by Trippin
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To: presidio9

Too bad Moores movie is only out of the running because they consider it to be a documentary.


4 posted on 11/09/2004 6:23:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (Greetings from Militiagan.)
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To: presidio9

I'm sure they're preparing a special award for Moore.
(The Golden Glob?)


5 posted on 11/09/2004 6:23:37 AM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: presidio9

Fahrenheit 9/11 is no more a documentary than Dr. Strangelove. Fiction should just be called fiction.


6 posted on 11/09/2004 6:23:40 AM PST by lnbchip
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To: presidio9
"Fahrenheit" (Lions Gate/IFC/Fellowship Adventure Group) will not be eligible in any Globes categories because it is a documentary. lie.

There. Fixed it right up.

7 posted on 11/09/2004 6:24:43 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Gloating? Us? Well, okay.)
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To: presidio9
"Fahrenheit" (Lions Gate/IFC/Fellowship Adventure Group) will not be eligible in any Globes categories because it is a documentary.

Is there an official definition of a documentary? It is that label that causes many people to take the movie seriously.

8 posted on 11/09/2004 6:24:54 AM PST by KJacob (I seem to have lost my tagline.)
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To: presidio9

Is there a category for Socialist Propoganda?


9 posted on 11/09/2004 6:25:57 AM PST by Lasher
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To: lnbchip
Fahrenheit 9/11 is no more a documentary than Dr. Strangelove. Fiction should just be called fiction.

Worth Repeating

Fahrenheit 9/11 is no more a documentary than Dr. Strangelove. Fiction should just be called fiction.

10 posted on 11/09/2004 6:27:03 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Only dummies play poker with George W. Bush.)
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To: presidio9
"Passion" (Newmarket) cannot compete for best drama because it is considered a foreign-language film. The HFPA considers any feature with a non-English dialogue track to be a foreign film. The organization's rules reserve the best picture awards for movies in English.

How stupoid izzat? If it ain't in Anguish It can't be THE BEST?.....

11 posted on 11/09/2004 6:29:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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To: presidio9

Moore's film a documentary? Do theese folks know (or care)the difference between documentary and propaganda?
I guess he will probably have to settle for the Nobel peace prize.


12 posted on 11/09/2004 6:30:29 AM PST by Phrostie
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To: cwiz24
Fahrenheit 9/11 is not a documentary, it's just Moore's manipulation of events to fit the "ideology" of the pimp onto his clients (Brain dead socialist).
13 posted on 11/09/2004 6:30:59 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: presidio9
The HFPA considers any feature with a non-English dialogue track to be a foreign film.

By these rules any silent film made in the US would be considered a foreign film, and any foreign film that was dubbed into English would be considered for the awards.

14 posted on 11/09/2004 6:31:23 AM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: presidio9

Live by the "documentary", Die by the "documentary"


15 posted on 11/09/2004 6:33:15 AM PST by Another Thought
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To: rollo tomasi

Well, it's THEIR HOLLYWOOD! <>g<>

Enjoyed the out and out threat the Bill O'Reilly repeated
to a Hollywoo Democrat last night. "If Moore's movie gets an award, I guarantee you, Hollywood will see such a backlash in this country, it will cripple them financially
because those red states will stay away from the box office for years!" (I paraphrased this, combining several of his statements)


16 posted on 11/09/2004 6:35:38 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: presidio9
Fahrenheit" (Lions Gate/IFC/Fellowship Adventure Group) will not be eligible in any Globes categories because it is a documentary propaganda film.
17 posted on 11/09/2004 6:38:06 AM PST by UsnDadof8 (Proudly defending the Dems right to stupidity since 1987)
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To: presidio9
"Passion" (Newmarket) cannot compete for best drama because it is considered a foreign-language film.

That is the stupidest decision....

18 posted on 11/09/2004 6:47:24 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: presidio9; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
"Passion," in which much of the dialogue is spoken in Aramaic, can be considered for best foreign film and under the rules can compete in all other categories.

Consecration in Aramaic
Byow mo how daq dom ha sho dee leh
ma' bed hy eh
nsa bel lah mo be dow qa dee sho to.
Ou ba rekh
ou qa desh
waq so
ou ya bel tal mee dow kad o mar:
Sab a khool meh neh kul khoon:
Ho no den ee tow faghro deel
day lo fy koun wah lof sagee hey
meh tez seh ou meh tee heb
lhoo so yo dhow beh was ha yeh dal 'o lam
'ol meen.

English Translation
On the day before his life-giving passion,
Jesus took bread in his holy hands.
He blessed,
sanctified,
broke,
and gave it to his disciples, saying:
Take and eat it, all of you:
This is my body
which is broken and delivered for you
and for many,
for the forgiveness of sins and eternal life.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


19 posted on 11/09/2004 6:51:22 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: presidio9

Moore's crockumentary will get the Oscar nod.


20 posted on 11/09/2004 6:54:03 AM PST by sarasota
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To: presidio9

A man who doesn't understand the simple and undeniable facts of caloric intake and caloric burn, or the complex mechanics behind a razor, is the arbitor of truth when it comes to international politics? Please, be serious.


21 posted on 11/09/2004 6:54:35 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Grendel9

I saw that too. The gossip columnist from Hollywood was visibly shaken during the interview, trying her best to stand tall for her minions. OR is right. I started my boycott a year ago. No more liberals in front of my eyes.


22 posted on 11/09/2004 6:55:49 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

I also expect to see Moore's flick win something at the Oscars. You would think "Hollywood" should know better, but they don't. The Cannes Film Festival had no qualms about flushing whatever reputation they had by giving Moore the Golden Palm award (while Quentin Tatantino insisted "This decision isn't political, Michael, it isn't political..")


23 posted on 11/09/2004 7:16:39 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte

Laura Ingram was playing clips from Susan Sarandon/Bill Maher. Susan just live in another world with her Hollywood friends. They will give kudos to Moore as an in-your-face gesture. And they will lose viewership at the theaters as a result.


24 posted on 11/09/2004 7:35:14 AM PST by sarasota
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To: presidio9

Ha ha. Pia Zadora yes, Michael Moore, no. I'd like to see Mel Gibson kick Michael Moore's ass. I wonder if that can be arranged.


25 posted on 11/09/2004 7:36:48 AM PST by veronica (Savor the victory!)
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To: sarasota

I thought "Meet The Parents" was one of the funniest films I have ever seen, and it annoys the crap out of me that I will have to skip the sequel because Ben Stiller was dumb enough to cast Babs as his mother. I understand the rationale (who could possibly be a more annoying in-law), but I think this is going to effect box office returns a lot more severely then he suspects.


26 posted on 11/09/2004 7:45:05 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Red Badger

Actually they have it right in a roundabout way. The Passion is a foreign film in sensibilty to those in movie industry.


27 posted on 11/09/2004 8:04:56 AM PST by xp38
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To: kstewskis; Raquel; Victoria Delsoul; GirlShortstop
Thought you'd like to see...

Not a drama because there were subtitles?

How backwards is that?

Didn't Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon win awards as a drama, and didn't it have subtitles?

28 posted on 11/09/2004 8:26:28 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: presidio9

Moore and his compatriots will use this to bully the Oscars into declaring his film a genuine documentary.


29 posted on 11/09/2004 8:55:51 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: presidio9

I hope you're right and I know that I won't be viewing it either. We need to keep the pressure on!


30 posted on 11/09/2004 9:17:42 AM PST by sarasota
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To: presidio9
The Passion is an American film with sub-titles, not a foreign film. What makes a film foreign is that it is made by a company in a foreign land. And Fahrenheit 911 is a mockumentary not a documentary. Boycott these ridiculous actors/musicians. They follow the New York Times/L.A. Times like it's the Bible. I haven't been to the movies in years (except to see the Passion). And I've discarded almost half my CD's. Give it to them where it hurts, their pocketbooks.
31 posted on 11/09/2004 10:25:52 AM PST by Raquel (Bush by Mandate.)
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To: presidio9

I thought a "foreign film" was one produced by foreigners. Silly me.


32 posted on 11/09/2004 10:27:36 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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To: Northern Yankee
"Passion," in which much of the dialogue is spoken in Aramaic, can be considered for best foreign film and under the rules can compete in all other categories.

Wow, this is great! Glad the fat pig is out. I hope this trend continues, lol.

33 posted on 11/09/2004 4:38:34 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul; GirlShortstop
Not a drama because there were subtitles? How backwards is that?

I find it ironic (moronic?) that with an award named "Golden Globe," a "foreign" film is not eligible if the dialog is not in English.

Goes to show how pointless these "awards" are. Mel has a bigger award waiting for him someday.

34 posted on 11/09/2004 7:05:18 PM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: presidio9

Documentary? That piece of trash? Oh well, since that is the reason for excluding it, fine. But let's not repeat it anywhere else.


35 posted on 11/09/2004 7:10:02 PM PST by Rocky
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To: kstewskis

I like the fact that Michael Moore is out. :-)


36 posted on 11/09/2004 7:53:35 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Raquel

Michael Moore is a "filmmaker?" I've seen better film on teeth.


37 posted on 11/09/2004 7:56:43 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: BlessedBeGod

isn't Mel Gibson a foreigner being that he is Australian, I know he was born here in the U.S and was living here until he was 12, but he has been an Australian citizen for most of his life, that makes Passion a foreign film because it was made by a foreigner and it has subtitles, but I believe come Oscar time it will not only win allthe foreign film awards, it will also win best drama, best director, best screenplay and best movie awards as well and most possibly Jim Caveiisil, (forgive me if I mispelled his name, I'm blind I'm sounding his name out) as best actor for playing our Lord and Savior, Michael Moore will be condemned by our Lord by losing at the Oscars for Fahrenheit 9/11 and lose to a much better and more adept documentary film maker, if he does win or if his farce of a crappy movie even pops out of the documentary realm and into the fictional movie realms and wins best movie, I will be very wary of listening to another movie again!!, God bless


38 posted on 11/09/2004 9:04:54 PM PST by BlindedByTruth (Say it loud and say it proud, I'm Conservative and I'm proud!)
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To: BlindedByTruth

Gibson was born in the USA.


39 posted on 11/09/2004 9:10:07 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; kstewskis; Raquel
I like the fact that Michael Moore is out. :-)

I second that one...

A month ago he came to our local University. It created quite a firestorm within the community, as many saw the University paying Moore thousands to create an anti-Bush political advertisement, with no balance to the other side.

Happy to say that only half the tickets were sold. And in a community that is very democratic, that says something!

40 posted on 11/10/2004 3:46:57 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Uncle Vlad

"Michael Moore is a "filmmaker?" I've seen better film on teeth."

LOL (maybe that's why the Brits like him so much)



41 posted on 11/10/2004 4:56:08 AM PST by Raquel (Bush by Mandate.)
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To: BlindedByTruth
but he has been an Australian citizen for most of his life,

Nope, he never gave up his American citizenship. Been one all his life.

42 posted on 11/10/2004 6:25:49 AM PST by kstewskis (Political correctness is intellectual terrorism.......M Gibson)
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To: Raquel

Half of the Best Picture "Dances With Wolves" was in Sioux with subtitles. Was it a foreign film?


43 posted on 11/10/2004 7:20:49 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

"Dances with Wolves" can still be considered for best picture because of it's anti-American overtones. When it comes to Hollywood, the more anti-American you are, the better.


44 posted on 11/12/2004 5:49:40 PM PST by Raquel (Bush by Mandate.)
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