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Kerry comes out fighting despite loss
The Age (Australia) ^ | November 10, 2004 | By Mike Allen

Posted on 11/09/2004 9:07:00 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Former US presidential challenger John Kerry plans to use his Senate seat and Democrat supporters to remain a major voice in American politics despite his election loss.

Friends and aides said he was assessing the feasibility of trying again for the presidency in 2008.

But in a glum post-mortem to the presidential campaign, Senator Kerry's senior advisers said he lost the election because he had failed to turn it into a referendum on the economy.

A pollster for Mr Kerry, Stanley Greenberg, said the campaign saw evidence that its position was slightly deteriorating among white rural voters 10 days before election day and that the erosion began "cascading from group to group".

Mr Greenberg said voters had been open to backing Senator Kerry but pulled back after he failed to persuade them to make their decision based on economic issues.

"Voters were very concerned about the economy," Mr Greenberg said, "but in the end, they did not respond to John Kerry on the economy. And after that, they voted their values. And that produced a cultural polarisation of the electorate."

Senator Kerry will attend a post-election lame-duck Senate session next week and aides said he was relishing the prospect of renewed combat with President George Bush, fighting such measures as Mr Bush's proposal to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling.

Senator Kerry has spent the better part of the past two years on the campaign trail, meaning his return to Capitol Hill will be something of a reintroduction to colleagues.

His plans contrast starkly with the approach taken by former vice-president Al Gore, who all but disappeared from the political scene after losing to Mr Bush in the disputed 2000 presidential election.

Senator Kerry fuelled talk about a 2008 bid at a Washington restaurant at the weekend. He provoked a thunderous reception by reminding about 400 campaign aides and volunteers that Ronald Reagan twice sought the Republican nomination for president before winning it in 1980.

"Sometimes God tests you," Senator Kerry told the crowd. "I'm a fighter, and I've come back before."

Bob Shrum, Kerry's chief campaign consultant, told reporters during a Democratic panel on Monday that Senator Kerry "will not do what Al Gore did after the last election - he will not disappear".

"He will be active and vocal," Mr Shrum said. Several Democrats expressed scepticism about Senator Kerry's plans, saying they believed the party needed a fresh face and must turn a corner.

One well-known Democratic operative who worked with the Kerry campaign said opposition to Mr Bush, not excitement about Senator Kerry, was behind the senator's fund-raising success. "If he thinks he's going to capitalise on that going forward, he's in for a surprise," said the operative, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Senator Kerry has mostly remained at his Boston home since election day and has spent some of that time preparing for his return to the Senate.

In the White House, chief of staff Andrew Card will remain in the job and is expected to play a key role in shaping Mr Bush's cabinet for a second term. Mr Bush has told aides he wants a smooth transition and officials said they expected that any major personnel changes would be made gradually, in order to ensure a measure of stability.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: election2004; fauxhero; hanoijohnny; ichabodcrane; kerry; ketchup; lurch; swiftvetsfortruth
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Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., embraces his wife Teresa Heinz Kerry after delivering his concession speech at Faneuil Hall in Boston Wednesday, Nov. 3, 2004. Kerry must now decide what to do with the rest of his political life. While he relaxed at his Boston home, friends, colleagues and presidential historians said they didn't see the Democrat fading into political obscurity like the last Massachusetts politician who ran and lost. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

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1 posted on 11/09/2004 9:07:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How I hope he is the 2008 Dem candidate.


2 posted on 11/09/2004 9:08:52 AM PST by Maceman (It's no longer a blue world, Max!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What's a Kerri?


3 posted on 11/09/2004 9:08:54 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

"Former US presidential challenger John Kerry plans to use his Senate seat and Democrat supporters to remain a major voice in American politics despite his election loss."

Now, has anybody told the dear old commie that he has to actually SHOW UP in the Senate Chamber to do his job?


4 posted on 11/09/2004 9:09:15 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Who is this Kerry every bodies talking about??????
5 posted on 11/09/2004 9:10:07 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Now, has anybody told the dear old commie that he has to actually SHOW UP in the Senate Chamber to do his job?

And even when he does show up, he sponsors what, one bill every four years? Some fighter.

6 posted on 11/09/2004 9:10:20 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Release your service records, John.


7 posted on 11/09/2004 9:10:27 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That pretentious smile on Kerry's face can't hide his self pity. Looks like the great American 'hero' wants to weep over himself.


8 posted on 11/09/2004 9:11:02 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: All

Never happen, the libs eat their own and hate losers - he'll be as powerful as a post loss Dukakis


9 posted on 11/09/2004 9:11:11 AM PST by michaelbfree
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Translation: four more years of blocked court nominees.


10 posted on 11/09/2004 9:11:36 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Frank_Discussion
OK, rhetorical question, I know...

But to "remain" a force, wouldn't one had to have actually "been" a force before.

Or is it, I was a force before I wasn't a force?

11 posted on 11/09/2004 9:11:45 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (If it talks like a liberal, votes like a liberal and spends like a liberal, it's a liberal.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"I'm a fighter" and "I'm a closer" are the biggest urban myths since the poodle and the microwave. he wasn't a closer, and being untested nationally, it was actually impossible to tell one way or the other. and his "fighting" was perceived as uninformed whining.

"I'm a bleeder; don't sit in the first four rows from ringside" (to pursue the metaphor) would have been much closer to the truth.

12 posted on 11/09/2004 9:11:51 AM PST by smonk
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Obi-Wan, you're our only hope!


13 posted on 11/09/2004 9:12:41 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: pabianice
---Translation: four more years of blocked court nominees.---

we only need five or six converts from across the aisle now, as opposed to 11 or 12.

seems to me I recall that Team Bush was able to muster 55 votes for Estrada . . .

14 posted on 11/09/2004 9:13:35 AM PST by smonk
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To: Frank_Discussion
In Kerry's case it is...

May the farce be with you (or not).

15 posted on 11/09/2004 9:14:18 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (If it talks like a liberal, votes like a liberal and spends like a liberal, it's a liberal.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


What an arrogant idiot to even
ponder an '08 run. He was the
DEFAULT candidate, He seems to
have forgotten THAT.


16 posted on 11/09/2004 9:14:40 AM PST by onyx
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To: gov_bean_ counter

*Jedi Hand Motion* "This president George Bush is not the one you're looking for"

The people speak: "Why are you waving your hand around like that? Do you think you're a contender or something? Your tricks only work on the weak-minded!"

[/starwars geek]


17 posted on 11/09/2004 9:17:47 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Kerry comes out? Well, finally!


18 posted on 11/09/2004 9:17:51 AM PST by lsee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Is there anywhere a picture of these two where she doesn't look like she's in pain because he's hugging her?

19 posted on 11/09/2004 9:18:03 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Maceman

Well I think the "Swifties" need to continue with their outing of his discharge... outing the records of sKerry, so all of America can know about this snake!


20 posted on 11/09/2004 9:18:04 AM PST by bullzeye66
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To: Dallas59
Who is this Kerry every bodies talking about??????

It can get confusing at times:

............................... Scary Carrie ........................................................ Fairy Kerry

Hope that helped...

21 posted on 11/09/2004 9:18:47 AM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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To: Maceman

Hillary will steamroller right over him if he gets in her way.


22 posted on 11/09/2004 9:22:51 AM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Senator Kerry has spent the better part of the past two years on the campaign trail, meaning his return to Capitol Hill will be something of a reintroduction to colleagues.

In other words, he hasn't been doing his job for the past couple of years. He should return his paychecks to the taxpayers.

23 posted on 11/09/2004 9:23:40 AM PST by .38sw
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To: Maceman

He'll have to show up in the senate to have an impact and even then, I'm not sure anyone would listen to him.


24 posted on 11/09/2004 9:24:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He should be upbeat - it was a good fight. I wouldn't expect him to give up. Nor will I when I vote against him again.


25 posted on 11/09/2004 9:24:47 AM PST by mudblood
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yawn ...


26 posted on 11/09/2004 9:25:02 AM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

His service records need to be released and he hsould be charged with treason for meeting with VC in France. You can't let slime like this remain in our congress. keep the pressure on.


27 posted on 11/09/2004 9:25:44 AM PST by Retired Navy Chief (muslim extremist scum don't deserve to live)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Former US presidential challenger John Kerry plans to use his Senate seat and Democrat supporters to remain a major voice in American politics despite his election loss.

You mean he's actually going to W-O-R-K?

28 posted on 11/09/2004 9:25:56 AM PST by madison10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sign your SF-180, John


29 posted on 11/09/2004 9:27:22 AM PST by Leofl (Damn Proud to be an American)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who's going to be running in '08?

30 posted on 11/09/2004 9:30:50 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

" . . . the feasibility of trying again for the presidency in 2008."

I'd love to see him slugging it out with Hillary to see who would run.


31 posted on 11/09/2004 9:36:03 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: bullzeye66

Big Swifties ~ Bump!


32 posted on 11/09/2004 9:40:43 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: G.Mason

Like a dog to its vomit...


33 posted on 11/09/2004 9:46:00 AM PST by Greek (WAHT)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who's John Kerry?


34 posted on 11/09/2004 9:46:12 AM PST by citizen (Relax. Terrorism is only a nuisance.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
John Kerry plans to use his Senate seat and Democrat supporters to remain a major voice in American politics

Remain? This guy is the most insignificant Politician in the US Senate

35 posted on 11/09/2004 9:48:18 AM PST by elizabetty
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is GREAT news. Now we'll find out what his secret plans are to save us all...


36 posted on 11/09/2004 9:50:09 AM PST by NCjim
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think that he will find that nothing fades into obscurity faster than a losing presidential candidate.


37 posted on 11/09/2004 9:50:36 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There's a lot to be said about a man who has been humiliated by a national publication, outed as a com-symp, and portrayed as a doting boytoy...and will still have the chutzpah to show up on the floor of the Senate and act as though he is relevant!

Odds are that The French looking candidate will put in a request for yet another purple heart...this time for a bruised ego.

38 posted on 11/09/2004 9:52:29 AM PST by Use It Or Lose It (Welcome Home, Vietnam Veterans. Your worst enemy has been defeated.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

said he was relishing the prospect of renewed combat with President George Bush



If I was advising F'n I'd tell him he would do better by actually being FOR something as opposed to playing Captain Ahab to GWB's Moby Dick. You never heard a soundbite on the campaign trail that didn't include "Bush", George Bush" or "this president" etc. etc. I think that as much as anything, did him in.


39 posted on 11/09/2004 9:53:05 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds good on paper, but most of the people who voted Kerry, were actually voting AGAINST Dubya.


41 posted on 11/09/2004 9:57:26 AM PST by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Gore Kerry in 2008.


42 posted on 11/09/2004 9:58:24 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: mlbford2

My 43 y.o. daughter is named Kerri. She is so happy Kerry is gone and hopefully forgotten forever.


43 posted on 11/09/2004 10:01:21 AM PST by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So what's Kerry going to do? Go back to the US Senate he has been AOL from for the past two years and finally pass a law on his own after 20 years?


44 posted on 11/09/2004 10:01:36 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Only dummies play poker with George W. Bush.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Adams Family?


45 posted on 11/09/2004 10:03:09 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: showme_the_Glory

Now, the good people of Massachusetts should elect a new senator and send this a**hole loser packing.


46 posted on 11/09/2004 10:06:56 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Doctor Raoul; NYC Republican; Howlin; Nick Danger
"Senator Kerry will attend a post-election lame-duck Senate session next week and aides said he was relishing the prospect of renewed combat with President George Bush, fighting such measures as Mr Bush's proposal to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil drilling."

Oh gee, another Kerry lie, another Kerry flip-flop:

Robert B. Bluey, CNSNews.com
Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004
Teamsters union chief Jimmy Hoffa has confused environmentalists and free-market advocates after saying that Democrat front-runner John Kerry, if elected president, would "drill like never before" across the United States.

Hoffa made the comments Feb. 17 during a segment on "Hardball" with Chris Matthews. Matthews had asked Hoffa why the union chose to endorse the U.S. senator even though Kerry opposed drilling for oil in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

"Well, we talked about that," Hoffa responded. "He says, look, I am against ANWR, but I am going to put that pipeline in, and we're going to drill like never before."

The union supports drilling in ANWR and the creation of a natural-gas pipeline that could stretch from Alaska to Chicago. Neither plan draws support from Kerry's environmentalist base, however.

When Matthews pressed Hoffa for details on the promises Kerry made, the Teamsters president offered a vague response.

'Drill All Over'

"Well, they are going to drill all over, according to him," Hoffa said. "And he says, we're going to be drilling all over the United States. And he says that is going to create more jobs."

After the exit of Rep. Dick Gephardt of Missouri from the Democrats' presidential race, Kerry courted unions, including the Teamsters, to support his candidacy. He secured AFL-CIO's endorsement last week.

But Hoffa's comments have left Kerry's largest environmental backer confused about what the union chief meant by Kerry's intentions to "drill like never before."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/125814.shtml


47 posted on 11/09/2004 10:08:56 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Patriotic Bostonian
Out of respect for your daughter I will cease and desist referring to 'Kerry' as 'Kerri'.
48 posted on 11/09/2004 10:23:40 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Southack

bump #47


49 posted on 11/09/2004 10:26:23 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

"I'm a Dumbocrat. I'll never say die."

50 posted on 11/09/2004 2:14:15 PM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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