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Posted on 11/10/2004 4:07:27 AM PST by Dog
Todays thread post all comments here...tunnels are being found in the southern part of Fallujah....per CNN's embedded reporter on the scene.
We control 70% of Fallujah. Some terrorists came out waving a white flag and when a soldier started talking to them, they shot him.
The terrorist's are faking surrenders to kill US troops...per Fox.
Well that simplifies things.
I say we shoot anyone with a white flag.
Flood the tunnels
Marines just took out a mosque w/ 4 tank shells, according to the Imus show reporter.
Imus seems concerned that damaging the mosque will annoy them. Feh!
Good morning and thanks for the thread. I think we are taking more prisoners than was expected.
The anti-Americanism from this guy is breath taking.
Kevin Sites is making me sick to my stomach. He seems to think Marines should act like MPs.
Weapons were found in that destroyed mosque....Mr. Sites saved that bit of info for last.
Shoot anyone named ABU..
That should encompass about every other male in that city.
The mosques and your local china chow eatery!
You're right. It's past time to stop caring about what annoys them. They're terrorists, for crying out loud.
They annoy us.
I've wondered the same thing! I wouldn't be surprised either.
I 2nd your "say". We don't want any stinkin prisoners anyway.
Happy Birthday Marines
Reporting from the mayoral compound, the BBC's Paul Wood says a battle is still raging in the city centre while US-led forces control the perimeter.
According to US estimates, hundreds of rebels were killed on Wednesday alone and at least one more marine died.
Relief groups say they are deeply worried about the fate of civilians.
Our correspondent said that on Wednesday morning no civilians could be seen on the streets, shops were shuttered and black smoke was rising all around.
Fadhil Badrani, a journalist in Falluja who reports for the BBC World Service in Arabic, says the city now looks like Kabul, the Afghan capital largely reduced to rubble after years of warfare.
One marine officer, Maj Francis Piccoli, said the rebels had been squeezed into a strip of the city bordering the east-west motorway which splits Falluja.
"There's going to be a movement today in those areas," he added.
Marines backed by tanks met little opposition when they blasted their way into the mayor's compound, which also houses a police station, at around 0400 local time (0100 GMT), Paul Wood reports.
However, they came under sustained fire around dawn from the minaret of a mosque, says our correspondent, whose reports are subject to military restrictions.
According to marines, the rebels waved a white flag at one stage but opened fire from three directions when a marine interpreter tried to begin talks. The marines then called in air strikes.
Other marines reported intense exchanges of fire in a north-western district.
One marine was killed and several seriously injured, bringing the death toll to 11 Americans and two Iraqi government soldiers.
"As for casualties on the insurgents' side, I can tell you that they are dying," marine spokesman Lt Lyle Gilbert told AFP news agency.
In other developments:
- Militants launch sustained gun and rocket attacks in Mosul as US aircraft fly low above the northern city
- Militants abduct three relatives of Iraqi interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi in Baghdad and reportedly threaten to kill them unless the Falluja siege is lifted
- Roadside bombs near the northern city of Kirkuk kill six Iraqi national guardsmen
- One US soldier is killed and another wounded by a roadside bomb north of Baghdad
Lt Gen Thomas Metz, the multinational ground force commander in Iraq, warned of "several more days of tough urban fighting" ahead, adding that rebel leaders such as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - America's most wanted man in Iraq - appeared to have fled before the assault began.
In Washington, President George W Bush praised the US-led forces in Falluja for their "hard work... for a free Iraq".
However, Iraq's largest Sunni-led political party, the Iraqi Islamic Party, pulled out of the interim government in protest at the Falluja assault.
The main association of Sunni clerics also voiced its disapproval, calling for a boycott of elections due in January.
Neighbouring Iran also voiced serious concern over Iraqi losses in Falluja.
Aid agencies have highlighted the plight of civilians in Falluja where up to 50,000 people remain out of a pre-war population of 300,000.
The Red Cross has urged all combatants to guarantee passage to those in need of medical care.
Paul Wood notes that despite efforts by US forces to select targets carefully, their use of heavy artillery and tanks is bound to lead to civilian casualties.
An unnamed man claiming to be a rebel fighter told the BBC's Today programme that the destruction in Falluja was "total".
"The Americans are bombing everywhere - everything is destroyed," he said, adding that water and electricity had been cut off."
The assault on Falluja, a hotbed of Sunni resistance, is officially aimed at stabilising Iraq ahead of January's poll.
Here's a link to a LARGE map (4 mb):
Please enunciate "ABU" so as not to be confused with "APU". I thank-you very much, please.
I stand correctly please.
Thank you vewy much.
A required component for this type of thread.
A headline from the Khaleeji Times reads "Fallujah battle: US muscle and fire-breathing Iraqi PM in front"
I could like this Allawi guy - shame about his relatives kidnapped - think you could count them "gone"
From wretchard's Belmont Club
Hell in a Very Small Place
The Bakersfield Californian reports that US forces have reached the major east-west highway that runs through Fallujah.
U.S. Marines said American forces had taken control Wednesday of 70 percent of Fallujah in the third day of a major offensive to retake the insurgent stronghold. Major Francis Piccoli, of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, said enemy fighters were bottled up in a strip of the city flanking the major east-west highway that splits Fallujah. Army and Marine units had pushed south to the highway overnight, Piccoli said.
... As the American forces crossed the highway that split Fallujah, armored Army units stayed behind to guard the thoroughfare.
To realize the significance of this, refer to this map from Global Security, which shows the start lines of the participating American units: USMC 3/1, USMC 3/5, Army 2/7 Cavalry, USMC 1/8, USMC 1/3 and Army 2/2 Infantry. These units were attacking north to south, down towards the highway. The east-west highway referred to in the paragraph above is the bright green line running horizontally across the map. US Army armor is now on that highway, after advancing south and probably swinging west. US forces are probably waiting across the highway. We are fairly sure of this because the London Telegraph recounted how a US Army Cavalry Unit was moving through the industrial area which is located in the southeast corner of the city, below the green line which represents the highway which US armor is now patrolling going north to south; that is up towards the highway. We know it is cavalry because they call their companies "troops".
The flimsy metal door was ripped off its hinges as a hefty boot from a Legion platoon soldier made decisive contact. Inside the small room lay an AK-47 rifle, alarm clock parts and a handwritten notebook in Farsi. Moments earlier, the gunman, thought to be Iranian, had fled as Legion, Hunter and Outlaw platoons of the US army's Task Force 2-2 undertook one of the more dangerous tasks of the battle for Fallujah. Clearing buildings door to door in a guerrilla stronghold is risky at any time. Into the bargain this time, the platoons from Phantom troop had been ordered to sweep Fallujah's industrial zone, a haven for foreign fighters.
Simply reading the map shows that the enemy is pinned in a strip north of the highway, which is now a barrier to further escape south. As Major Piccoli put it, the "enemy fighters were bottled up in a strip of the city flanking the major east-west highway that splits Fallujah". Pressing them against the highway are four US battalions from the north and two from the east. Two days ago, the Telegraph carried an interview with Captain Natalie Friel, which eerily anticipated this very outcome.
"They're probably thinking that we'll come in from the east," said Capt Natalie Friel, an intelligence officer with task force, before the battle. But the actual plan involves penetrating the city from the north and sweeping south. "I don't think they know what's coming. They have no idea of the magnitude," she said. "But their defences are pretty circular. They're prepared for any kind of direction. They've got strong points on all four corners of the city." The aim was to push the insurgents south, killing as many as possible, before swinging west. They would then be driven into the Euphrates.
The reader is invited to draw his own conclusions about the enemy's prospects in this position. They are pinned against the highway, with no exit north, east or south.
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PS - Happy Birthday, Marines!
I see your already lit your own birthday candles. Now make a wish & blow them out.
Isn't an "annoyance" something like a "nusance"?
Texas size smile here. Truly, what did they expect? They are ignorant as a rock if they didn't realize that America is capable of more - much more than this even. Let Fallujah stand as a monument to this. Thanks for posting this article.
Exactly, one easy way to keep the damned traitorous judiciary out of the war on terror is to summarily execute the muzzies after a brief field interrogation.
No more "rights" for terrorists.
I'll bet there's going to be a lot of "movements" in the bowels of those areas.
Tunnel solution - pour fugas (in other words, napalm) into it, light fuse, stand back. Roasted terrorist...
Report says Falluja now looks like Kabul after years of war,,,,Well it only took us 3 days,,,,,Happy Birthday USMC!
I noticed...They faked surrenders in the drive to Baghdad,too..I hate it.
We really need to announce TAKE NO PRISONERS!
Or a nuisance even!
We just had four incoming nearby...it has been wild and wooly all over Iraq the last few days...
Reminds me of how we use to kill gophers in the yard. Stick a garden hose down the hole. If that doesn't work, get the smoke bombs.
I find it funny how the terrorist leader flees the city before the invasion.
That should be a good example for his supporters who blow themselves up in car bombs for allah.
Almighty and eternal God,
Protect these soldiers as they discharge their duties. Protect them with the shield of your strength and keep them safe from all evil and harm. May the power of your love enable them to return home in safety, that with all who love them, they may ever praise you for your loving care.
For all of you in harms way we pray.