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Prisoners of Capital (Arise, ye zottees of the earth!)
The late RLuxembourg, channeled through Reddy Kilozot.

Posted on 11/10/2004 7:50:14 AM PST by RLuxembourg

Millions of human beings around the world are forcibly detained, their liberties removed by governmental authorities. Anyone who takes seriously the immediate potential for replacing capitalism with a world of real abundance and freedom knows already that the great majority of crimes are either crimes against property or involve the illegal trafficking of property — or are the likely direct result of living the restricted and stressful life of a wage-slave.

While there are those who justify the existence of laws on moral and ideological grounds, the defenders of the status-quo must always argue their case referring to a swashbuckler’s haven of spurious doctrines, some of them philosophical (“free will”), theological (“good and evil”), psychological (“mental illness”) or political (“justice”). And yet the wasting away of countless millions of human lives remains a potent critique of a society of private property, as much as the maltreatment and exploitation of animals or children in our society. The sheer hypocrisy and failure of the law is inevitably the feature subject of this article.

It is illegal to kill one’s fellows in a fit of rage but perfectly legal to kill fellow workers from other countries to satisfy the ruling class’s need to protect or assert its economic or political spheres of influence in another part of the world. One must not steal, say both the law and the Bible, and yet it is perfectly legal and morally acceptable to rob working people every day of the wealth they produce above their wages, distilling the high life for the greedy and lazy few out of the gradated deprivations visited on the majority, stymying people’s efforts to provide enough for themselves and their children. The subject of prisons goes to the very heart of our so-called civil society, putting to shame the naïve suggestion that we live in a democratic society. The truth is that a society of privilege must be protected by the brute powers of the law. We are not allowed to enjoy more wealth than the crumbs we are permitted in our wages or welfare income, and anybody who attempts this in our society will be handcuffed and taken away.

Make no mistake about it, the lack of freedom inside the prison cells directly mirrors the lack of freedom for working people outside them. On the outside you will be forced to work, unless you want to live in a cardboard box and seek food in a garbage can; you will be forced to accept your wages or salary for the work you do, forced to accept the nature of the job, forced to spend vast hours of your life even outside work just preparing for it and getting to and from it. You will be forced to put up with the other side effects of capitalism — its pollution, its stress, its shoddy goods, its wars, and the fact that billions must starve to death, including tens of millions of children each year. Your “free” time itself will be carved up into the various consumer “entertainments” and “pleasures” available for the right price.

What is truly yours in capitalism is debatable. Your fate and that of the prisoners who languish behind bars every day are inseparably intertwined. Indeed, inside or outside prison, we will never be free until we establish a society in which humans come first and the production of wealth is oriented toward meeting our needs and those of our children — one in which we are no longer forced to work in order to be adequately fed, clothed and housed, and in which the economic priorities of the rich no longer send poor and uneducated youth to die abroad, or condemn the planet to a slow death by self-poisoning. When property is owned in common, we will find ways as a community to better meet our needs for wealth, creativity, decisionmaking, love, rest, productivity, and freedom.

We challenge the myth of the present era that some people are good and others evil, or that crime is an entirely moral issue. We maintain that behavior must be understood in its social context: that of a society divided into two classes, one owning the vast proportion of wealth without working for it, and the other producing all the wealth while owning but a miniscule proportion of it.

Until the vast majority of us are liberated from the prison of being workers, we must denounce all the moralistic assumptions and shoddy social analyses of our public behaviors that lead so many of us to be locked away behind bars. We will on such a glorious day liberate our brothers and sisters in jail, and we urge them now to join us in the worldwide project of designing a system that promotes for real the enjoyment of the abundant wealth and freedom that are our birthright.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; anticapitalist; anticonservative; anticonstitution; antidemocracy; antiintelligence; antirepublican; bewaretheredmenace; commie; communist; democraticrepublic; lostthecoldwar; marxist; marxistslaveowner; mccarthywasright; propertyisnothteft; socialist; somethingfornothing; stalinsbuttboy; swashbucklershaven; troll; usefulidiot; zot; zotbait
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1 posted on 11/10/2004 7:50:14 AM PST by RLuxembourg
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To: RLuxembourg
A newbie posting about the evils of capitalism. I smell a ZOT in your future...
2 posted on 11/10/2004 7:53:10 AM PST by Jonah Hex (Free Republic... Afflicting the Media Since 1998)
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To: RLuxembourg

Worker's Paradise Zot


3 posted on 11/10/2004 7:54:10 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: RLuxembourg; Admin Moderator

Smelling ozone here.


4 posted on 11/10/2004 7:54:48 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: RLuxembourg

Wow! What a brilliant and original essay!

"Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!"

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need!"

Have you considered a name for this incredible new philosophy, which has the potential to save the human race?


5 posted on 11/10/2004 7:55:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: RLuxembourg

Marxist troll--ZOT!!!


6 posted on 11/10/2004 7:56:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: RLuxembourg

Go back to DU and post about the joys of Communism, Troll!


7 posted on 11/10/2004 7:57:43 AM PST by RebelBanker (Negotiate? [BANG] Anybody else want to negotiate?)
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To: Travis McGee

You mean, like "Marxism"?

8 posted on 11/10/2004 7:58:09 AM PST by Jonah Hex (Free Republic... Afflicting the Media Since 1998)
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To: RebelBanker

What's that?


9 posted on 11/10/2004 7:58:15 AM PST by RLuxembourg
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To: RLuxembourg; MeekOneGOP

10 posted on 11/10/2004 8:00:16 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: RLuxembourg

Oh, it's even worse than all that, Luxie!

Outside you will not only be forced to work for a living, and to sell your time and be unfree, but then your body will become infested with parasites and bacteria, and you will be wracked with painful illness time and time again.
At some point, the veins in your heart or head will explode, or tumors will devour your body and you will die alone and in terror.
Or even worse, gravity will beat down on you your whole life, chaining you to the Earth as a slave. If you try to defy it, you will painfully jam your toes or, if from a higher height, break bones, or eventually be crushed in a lethal fall. Damned oppressive gravity!
Not only that, there's kinetics. Objects move around on their own energy, out of your control. When they impact you, be they cars or hailstones, the pain is intense and possibly lethal.
And thermodynamics and meteorology! Get too close to the fire, and you will get a painful burn. Move too far away, and you will freeze...and that's if the hurricanes and tornadoes and lightning sweeping out of the sky down fry you or drown you or crush you.
Sooner or later, after having be a slave, a wretched slave your WHOLE LIFE, to all of these insensitive, unfeeling, cruel forces of nature, some one of those forces will reach out and kill you...disease, gravity, kinetics, thermodynamics or water: something is lurking out there with your name on it, coming to KILL you.

Oh God! Oh the inhumanity! Damn the capitalists and their laws of economics! Damn physics! Damn gravity!


11 posted on 11/10/2004 8:00:30 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: Leapfrog

A Marxist kitty bump.

12 posted on 11/10/2004 8:02:10 AM PST by Jonah Hex (Free Republic... Afflicting the Media Since 1998)
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To: Vicomte13

Can I copy that? That was good.


13 posted on 11/10/2004 8:02:21 AM PST by RLuxembourg
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To: Vicomte13

Are you comparing "market forces" to physics?


14 posted on 11/10/2004 8:03:12 AM PST by RLuxembourg
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To: RLuxembourg
Straight from the www.worldsocialism.org website. How lovely.
15 posted on 11/10/2004 8:03:44 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

... and gay


16 posted on 11/10/2004 8:04:06 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

... ok mostly gay.


17 posted on 11/10/2004 8:04:22 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: RLuxembourg; Admin Moderator; MeekOneGOP
Click The Pic
Click the Pic

18 posted on 11/10/2004 8:06:04 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

No different points of view allowed here today I see.

Comfortable world you folks live in.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 8:07:45 AM PST by RLuxembourg
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To: RLuxembourg

Welcome to Free Republic, Red Rosa. Remember how your namesake bought it? Why do you waste your time writing this crap when you should be packing for Canada?


20 posted on 11/10/2004 8:09:16 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey liberals!! Peel your stupid bumperstickers! He lost! BwaaaaaHaaaHaaa!!)
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To: RLuxembourg

Let me guess? You're a fan of Noam Zotsky.

Geez, what is it with you people using 4000 words to make a one sentence point?


21 posted on 11/10/2004 8:09:25 AM PST by najida (I shop for my fillet mignon at Walmart.)
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To: RLuxembourg; MeekOneGOP
In before the zot!!!! Yeee Haaa
 
Hey, Moby, heres your sign.....
 

22 posted on 11/10/2004 8:11:31 AM PST by backinthefold (NaNaNaNa NaNaNaNa NaNaNaNa Hey Hey Hey GoodBy!!)
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To: RLuxembourg

Wow. The jackass is still here. Unbelievable...


23 posted on 11/10/2004 8:12:40 AM PST by telebob
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To: RLuxembourg
I'm too tired this morning to debate the evils of capitalism. Go zot yourself.


24 posted on 11/10/2004 8:13:09 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: RLuxembourg
BTW...in case you didn't know already...

Luxembourg sucks.

25 posted on 11/10/2004 8:14:58 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: RLuxembourg

Human nature is just part of nature.

There is what we might described as "home economics" of shared labor and preparation even among birds.

Certainly many animals, including our cousins the monkeys, form themselves into hierarchical, male-dominated bands and have social rules.

Now, thanks to the spark of God within us, we can rise above being just animals. But we still are animals, bound to the earth for our survival. And with so many of us needing so many resources we have to live, there has got to be a hierarchy, there has to be law and order, and it has to be enforced against those who don't want to follow it.
This is true everywhere on Earth. There are no exceptions, and there never were and never will be.

So yes, I am directly including the economic and hierarchical legal behavior of human beings to the laws of physics, because they are derivates of the same laws of nature. Indeed, the laws of economics and the social order is primarily a reaction to the impositions of nature upon us. Would we spend so much time growing, transporting and preparing food if we really didn't need to eat? Would there be a highly articulated real estate market if we wouldn't freeze to death, or roast in the sun, or get eaten by bugs, by just living naked outside? Would we have any restraints on sexual behavior at all, given how good it feels, if sex didn't come with powerful natural consequences, like pregnancy and the need to support other mouths, and disease?
No, no and no.

So yes: the laws of economics are the human derivative of the laws of physics. The moral laws that are frequently not perfectly in accord with our physical self-interest are a derivate of our minds, which are not physical structures but creations of the divine. The two co-exist only in a guarded truce.


26 posted on 11/10/2004 8:15:02 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: RLuxembourg; MeekOneGOP
"No different points of view allowed here today I see.

Comfortable world you folks live in."

ZOT!!!


27 posted on 11/10/2004 8:19:48 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: RLuxembourg
No different points of view allowed here today I see.

I read Das Kapital many years ago, A**hole. I rejected it back then. I still reject it.

Comfortable world you folks live in.

Yes it is for the most part.
(When we don't have to put up with Commie idiots)

Go Live in Cuba! You'll be a lot happier there!

Be Gone Troll
Goodbye Troll! Click the Pic
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If'n Ya Come Back ta FR I'm a gonna Give Ya a Thumpin' Y'all Ain't Never Gonna Fergit!

28 posted on 11/10/2004 8:20:57 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RLuxembourg
We challenge the myth of the present era that some people are good and others evil

Yeah, that Saddam fella is just misunderstood. His sons, dropping people into plastic shredders feet-first so that their screams could be relished, cannot be given a bad label of some kind! Why, that would be, umm, bad! We're bad because we label others as bad... and since they're bad and we're bad, let's just not label anyone as bad, and everything wil be all better!

ROFL... and you say that we live in a comfortable world (post 19).

or that crime is an entirely moral issue.

Umm, pootie-pie, it is virtually axiomatic that criminal behavior is immoral or a-moral, and that moral behavior is not criminal. You might as well try to assert that speaking is not an entirely verbal issue. There may be miniscule exceptions, but by and large, for the history of mankind and in every culture and society ever to have graced the planet, the axiom has been regarded as foundational...

but that is the entire point for you, isn't it? Anything that can disrupt the foundation of American capitalist society must be undermined, atacked, besmirched, and annihilalted, all so that you can watch yet another fantasy of Communism become a nightmare of oppression, decay, government-sanctioned murder, and starvation. Here's to relishing the fact that you're banging your head in futility against History, logic, human nature, and the overwhelming majority of the American population (I have to estimate that virtually every Marxist-leaning person votes, repeatedly, while most of the non-voting half of Americans know what a joke that philosophy truly is). Cheers!

29 posted on 11/10/2004 8:22:05 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: RLuxembourg

"What is truly yours in capitalism is debatable."

True, but what is truly yours in communism is not - the answer is "nothing."


30 posted on 11/10/2004 8:22:32 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: backinthefold

But I got in the first ZOT, for the very first time!!!

31 posted on 11/10/2004 8:23:19 AM PST by Jonah Hex (Free Republic... Afflicting the Media Since 1998)
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To: RLuxembourg

Look, I'll go ahead and give you a serious, direct answer to the thing you posted.

Why should I care more about workers than capitalists?
What gives the laborer an ounce of greater worth than the oisif?

Marx decided that everything should revolve around the laboring class, that workers, for some reason, have some intrinsic moral value superior to all other economic classes of people.

Why?
Based on WHAT?

Based on his own opinion.
Workers have no more value than anybody else.
And everybody, everybody in this world - capitalists included - suffers. Workers do not suffer more than capitalists, and having to work is not a greater burden or pain than, say, being born blind, or having muscular dystrophy, or being a capitalist who gets his teeth busted out in a car accident.

Marx defined moral worth of human beings based on what they do for a living.
His basis for doing this was??? NOTHING. His own strange opinion. There is no basis for it in physical nature. There is no basis for it the "balance of pain". There is no basis for it in religion, certainly (which is why he hated religion so much, apparently).

So, you've posted a long manifesto about the evils of people who happen to have a little money, and the horrible burden that it is to have to work. What's that based on?
Nothing.
It's a wierd fantasy.
Most laborers are not miserable.
Work is hard, yes. But it's hard for everybody. The curse of Adam. The curse of Eve. Speaking metaphorically anyway.
Work is by no means the most painful thing we face, and Marxists turn labor into some sort of martyrdom. Again, based on WHAT?
Again: nothing.


32 posted on 11/10/2004 8:28:14 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: RLuxembourg

33 posted on 11/10/2004 8:31:56 AM PST by dansangel (Thank You GOD for answering our prayers!)
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To: RLuxembourg

k, here's a question: Why do you people who come here (to FR) to disrupt, ever think that anything is ever changed by all the posts you've had in the past?

1. The ranting, raving, maniacal post. That's probably my fave, I must admit, for reasons of humor alone, but please, do you see ONE person on the thread saying, "hey, that's a good point, I'm gonna be a liberal now!"?

2. The far left post, usually by someone like Noam Chumpski, or some such. Do you honesly think that no one here has read Mr. Chumpski's work before? Do you really think that will do anything to change anyone's mind? Have you seen ONE person on the thread say, "Hey, that's a good point, I'm gonna be a liberal now!"?

3. The incoherent post, usually about "those evil jooos". Do you honestly believe that all conservatives are racists, and are going to join in a Nazi-like chant, calling for the public execution of all the "dirty hook nosed Joos"? Have you seen ONE person on the thread say, "Hey, that's a good point, I'm gonna be a liberal now!"?

RLuxembourg, when you create another nickname (and we all know you're going to), answer these questions please in your next thread. Answer these questions, because I'd really like to understand the mindset here. Please do answer, because it seems like to me, you, and people like you, really do this because you have a strange fetish that demands you hit your head on a brick wall, multiple times, each day. Kind of like a compulsive disorder.


34 posted on 11/10/2004 8:36:53 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: RLuxembourg
Anyone who takes seriously seriesly the immediate potential...

Dagnabbit! Whin are these newbees gonna lern ta spell?

35 posted on 11/10/2004 8:40:38 AM PST by grellis ("If ketchup tasted like chocolate sprinkles, would you put it on ice cream?"--Shryke)
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To: Leapfrog

LOL!


36 posted on 11/10/2004 8:44:53 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: RLuxembourg
Flame on!

Troll, extra crispy, tastes good with ketchup

37 posted on 11/10/2004 8:45:28 AM PST by Godzilla (Ready)
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To: RLuxembourg

All your workers are belong to us.


38 posted on 11/10/2004 8:50:40 AM PST by eyespysomething (7 days out, and the Dems still don't get it.)
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To: RLuxembourg
No different points of view allowed here today I see.

There are many points of view allowed here.

Just not yours. 8^P

39 posted on 11/10/2004 8:51:52 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: RLuxembourg; Fiddlstix; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...
Bye!

He's dead, Jim.
(Click here or on the pic).



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.


40 posted on 11/10/2004 8:51:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: RLuxembourg

Yeah, um, good luck with all that.


41 posted on 11/10/2004 8:52:55 AM PST by TheBigB (Happy Birthday to me! Happy Birthday to me! :))
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To: Admin Moderator
zotees

Okay, this is making my world uncomfortable!

Unless you want us to pronounce this word as "zoatees", I think you need to change the speeling to "zot-ees" or "zottees".

:D

42 posted on 11/10/2004 8:54:23 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: RLuxembourg

To bad your mother didn't decide to abort you in the liberal manner. Of course that is an assumption that you had a mother.


43 posted on 11/10/2004 8:54:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: RLuxembourg

Yew shore use a lot of 5-dollar words to say very little at all, podner.


44 posted on 11/10/2004 8:58:38 AM PST by backhoe ("We met at Dawn- and destiny Prevailed...")
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To: hellinahandcart

Spelling. Spelling! SPELLING!! WAH!!


45 posted on 11/10/2004 8:59:16 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Zavien Doombringer; 4mycountry; Constitution Day; VRWCmember; Poohbah; dighton; Grampa Dave; ...

46 posted on 11/10/2004 8:59:57 AM PST by mhking
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To: RLuxembourg
Comfortable world you folks live in.

Yeah, we like it. :-)

47 posted on 11/10/2004 9:00:44 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Grampa Dave
To bad your mother didn't decide to abort you in the liberal manner. Of course that is an assumption that you had a mother.

LOL!

Or to put it another way.........

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world.
An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.


48 posted on 11/10/2004 9:01:03 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RLuxembourg
how many generations are you and yours going to try to sell Marxist tripe? How many millions have to become enslaved for you to give up on your socialist Utopia?
49 posted on 11/10/2004 9:02:29 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Fiddlstix

That is a great quote.


50 posted on 11/10/2004 9:03:14 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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