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The Killers - The Dutch Hit Crisis Point
National Review Online ^ | 11/10/2004 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 11/10/2004 2:14:55 PM PST by Syco

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To: Syco
There's and intense Dutch-9/11-America link, the people there are aware of it.

Know the story of that Islamic calendar which shows not Sept. 11 but something pretty close?

21 posted on 11/10/2004 3:14:27 PM PST by txhurl
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To: ladyjane

"What have we done along these lines after 3,000 of us were killed?"

You mean other than throwing several in jail, taking over the country from which they were operating, killing 75% of the leadership, and taking over another country from which the terrorists were receiving training bases and financial support, and generally putting the world on notice we were not going to take any more of this PC crap?

-- well, other than those trifeling matters, we haven't done anything at all... /sarcasm


22 posted on 11/10/2004 3:15:31 PM PST by konaice
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To: Syco

Wow. 'Camp of the Saints' in real life.


23 posted on 11/10/2004 3:16:34 PM PST by Crawdad (Take a camera to the polls.)
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To: Syco

Another neo-con conman, with his policies we will be Mexico within a decade and look at the powerhouse they are. Mr. Ledeen is full of himself if he thinks he can take the future multi-cultural America and dominate the world.


24 posted on 11/10/2004 3:19:20 PM PST by junta
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To: ladyjane

The Dutch were talking about stripping those muslims who hadn't assimilated of their citizenship, before van gogh was murdered. In fact, I believe the law was already passed.


25 posted on 11/10/2004 3:22:09 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: PeterFinn

I strongly disagree. I know muslims and many aren't the evil monsters we are painting them to be. I am not saying there aren't muslims who aren't evil... we all know there are many... but if you say "kill every last man, woman, and child in the Islamic world" then I am 100% against this.

That is what the islamofacists want to do to us... not every muslim and not the ones I have known for many years.


26 posted on 11/10/2004 3:25:01 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: PeterFinn
If we have to kill every last man, woman, and child in the Islamic world to assure our children of a safe and free future then that is what we MUST do.

I'm sure there will be some reading your statement and thinking you are a bit extreme. I am not one of those. After 9-11 and reading stories daily of things going on in the world (and knowing the media isn't even reporting a lot of things) I'm in agreement with you. It happened in the Old Testament and looks like it needs to happen again.

I wonder what the U.S. plan for retaliation is if a nuclear or dirty bomb is ever detonated in this country.
27 posted on 11/10/2004 3:37:31 PM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: Syco

YOu forgot to mention that they rode up and down the streets blowing their car horns and banging drums (I read that in an article yesterday). I'm sure it scared the H out of the Muslims.


28 posted on 11/10/2004 3:39:53 PM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: trashcanbred

YOu would be very UNPLEASANTLY SUPRISED to find out what is really in the hearts and minds of your muslim "friends."


29 posted on 11/10/2004 3:41:30 PM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: Muzzle_em

Actually... the ones I do know are very moderate. One muslim woman I know actually married a Jewish man. Her family and his were uneasy about it but they have been married for about 8 years now at least.

If you guys really believe in the "killing them all" mentallity you would not only be making a big mistake but I would reckon you would not be making it anywhere pleasant in the after life.


30 posted on 11/10/2004 3:50:38 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: trashcanbred

"If we have to"

This would be called a 'qualifying phrase'.

If we have to kill all of them to ensure our safety I'm okay with that.

So your position is that you will accept letting the Muslims slaughter you and your sons as they enslave your wife and daughters? (As is accepted under Sharia Law in handling conquered infidels).

Seriously, if the mullahs and other paragons of personal hygiene suddenly declare peace and hold your hand and sing 'Kumbaya' with you I'd be a happy guy.

I just don't see this happening.

Islam is on the march and picking up speed. When they come to your town and impose Sharia they will not treat with you or discuss your ideas. They will cut your head off (legal under Sharia since you'd be an unabsolved infidel) and then they'll rape your daughters (Mohammed had sex with a nine-year old girl he called his 'wife').

Again, *if we have to* to kill all of them to make our children safe then what choice do we have?

We didn't ask for this war. We didn't ask for WW2 either. But in WW2 we killed one hell of a lot of Japanese, Italian, German, and even French non-combatants to protect our families. Our choices then were to kill their families or have them kill ours. The choices were imposed on us no differently than choices are being imposed on us now.

The ball is in the court of the mullahs. They are the ones who can stop the killing. They can declare peace.

Or we will have to surrender or fight.

As for myself, I'll fight.


31 posted on 11/10/2004 4:03:40 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: trashcanbred

Well, is OK to kill the ones who consider us infidels who must be killed?


32 posted on 11/10/2004 4:04:32 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Syco

Jay Severin said on his radio show this afternoon that America has a universal religion every citizen believes in besides theological beliefs:the US Constitution. And that no politician can transgress the Constitution and remain in office or get elected/reelected. A little outside the box thinking, but he's exactly right.


33 posted on 11/10/2004 4:15:18 PM PST by hershey
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To: PeterFinn
If we have to kill every last man, woman, and child in the Islamic world to assure our children of a safe and free future then that is what we MUST do.

I, for one, have no qualms or complaints about your statement.

As I've said, I'd rather see the Earth burnt to a cinder than for my (yet unborn) grandchildren to live under the yoke of tyranny, be it religious or secular.

34 posted on 11/10/2004 7:22:43 PM PST by FierceDraka ("Megatons Make It Fun!")
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To: riri

bkmk


35 posted on 11/10/2004 7:24:12 PM PST by riri
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To: Taylor42

Europe is lost to Islam...get used to it.


36 posted on 11/10/2004 7:29:20 PM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: hershey

"Jay Severin said on his radio show this afternoon that America has a universal religion every citizen believes in besides theological beliefs:the US Constitution."

If Jay Severin believes this("every citizen") he was AWOL during the last campaign. Half the electorate, more or less, is quite content to let a bunch of judges burn the Constitution and make it up as they go along(as anyone in Massachusetts knows from close-up observation.)


37 posted on 11/10/2004 7:41:31 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (I, the Jury)
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To: FierceDraka

Neither do I. Them or us. I choose us.


38 posted on 11/10/2004 8:10:12 PM PST by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: Syco

The USA needs another Senator McCarthy to wipe out the Jihadists amoung us. After 3,000 dead, do we have the backbone for that? No.


39 posted on 11/10/2004 8:17:50 PM PST by rageaholic
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To: Brilliant

I dunno, churches getting torched, the boiling point is up there.

Everyone, I heard this discussed on Prager this afternoon, now Savage is on it. Of course, as pointed out, churches getting molotov cocktails thrown at them is not reported by Tom Brokaw.


40 posted on 11/10/2004 8:20:30 PM PST by roadrunner96 (Don't sleep at dawn!)
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