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Effect of DHEA on Abdominal Fat and Insulin Action in Elderly Women and Men
JAMA ^ | 10 November 2004 | DT Villareal, M.D. et al

Posted on 11/10/2004 4:28:05 PM PST by shrinkermd

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To: Stellar Dendrite

Do you use ALA and ALCOR to lose weight, or for what purpose?

I find that even small amounts of ALA turn my urine really nasty smelling. I know it's supposed to be great as an anti-aging antioxident, but 1000 mg a day? Are you serious?


21 posted on 11/10/2004 7:25:42 PM PST by japaneseghost
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To: leadhead

BWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHA - good one!


22 posted on 11/10/2004 9:26:19 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: japaneseghost

I don't take it for weightloss (don't need to take anything).
I do not take 1000mg a day, although some do. You may have misread what I stated, the ALA in powder form that I suggested is a 100 grams. 1000 milligrams is = to 1 gram, so this bottle would give you 100 1 gram doses if you chose to take that much per day. I take 250mg twice a day. I believe the reason why your urine stinks is due to the high sulfur content.




Here's a description of ALA:
"LIPOIC ACID, ALPHA. ALA is a supernutrient that enables the cells to provide quick bursts of energy for intense exercise, reduces lactic acid buildup, and helps produce sustained energy without increasing fat production. ALA is a powerful water and fat soluble antioxidant that protects all areas of the body, including cell membranes and mitochondrial DNA when used with acetyl L-carnitine. It has insulin mimicking properties which lower blood sugar and protect from aging by glycation (cross-linking protein molecules by sugar); and acts to speed creatine to muscle cells. For fat loss some are suggesting 100mg ALA for each 40 grams of carbs in a meal. Note: This ALA is the 50:50 mix of the R and S isomers. Usual dose: 100-300 mg; diabetics: 300-600mg. Some suggest taking 1mg biotin per 100mg ALA. Especially effective with CoQ10, ALCAR, & carnosine"


Acetyl L Carnitine (ALCAR):
"Similar properties to carnitine, and shown by studies to protect vital organs from oxidative damage while increasing brain levels of choline acetyltransferase, improving cognitive function. It has been used with some success with Alzheimer’s patients. There are claims that testosterone production may be increased with a 1-2 gram dose before breakfast, and that it may trigger a GH release with a protocol of 500mg with 30-100mg ornithine HCl at bedtime. One study showed 2g each per day of L-carnitine & ALCAR beat testosterone in increasing erections and orgasms in men over 60. ALCAR is not as effective as regular carnitine for fat burning, but latest research suggests that it may be used with lipoic acid (ALA) to protect mitochondria and dopamine cells from damage"


23 posted on 11/10/2004 10:21:43 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Halliburton razed the rainforests in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan -John Kerry '04 /Sarcasm)
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To: z3n

"It can also affect certain hormone levels (as a precursor) and either related or un-related to that, affect mood."

It also helps suppress cortisol.


24 posted on 11/10/2004 10:23:30 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Halliburton razed the rainforests in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan -John Kerry '04 /Sarcasm)
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