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Presidential Candidates To Demand Ohio Recount
Sierra Times ^ | 11/11

Posted on 11/11/2004 10:48:55 AM PST by ambrose

Presidential Candidates To Demand Ohio Recount

Press Release

David Cobb and Michael Badnarik, the 2004 Green and Libertarian presidential candidates, today announced their joint intent to secure a recount of presidential ballots cast in Ohio.

"Due to widespread reports of irregularities in Ohio's voting process, we are compelled to demand a recount of the Ohio presidential vote," the two candidates said in a joint statement. "Voting is at the heart of the American political process and its integrity must be preserved. When Americans stand in line for hours to exercise their right to vote, they need to know that their votes will be counted fairly and accurately. We are acting to protect the rights of the people of Ohio, and the rights of all Americans. Public trust in the democratic process is at stake."

The candidates also demanded that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who chaired the Ohio Bush campaign, recuse himself from the recount process.

Ohio's election proceedings were marred by numerous press and independent reports of voter intimidation, mis-marked and discarded ballots, problems with electronic voting machines and disenfranchisement -- apparently by design -- of African-American voters. A number of citizen and voting rights organizations will hold hearings this Saturday in Columbus, Ohio to give an airing to, and investigate, these claims. The hearings will be held from 1-4 p.m. at the New Faith Baptist Church, 955 Oak Street. Voters, poll workers, journalists and voting experts are invited to testify. A second hearing will be held on Monday at a location to be announced, from 6-9 p.m.

The Badnarik and Cobb campaigns are in the process of raising the required fee, estimated at $110,000, for securing a complete recount. The campaigns are accepting contributions through their web sites. The Badnarik-Campagna website is http://www.badnarik.org. The Cobb-LaMarche website is http://www.votecobb.org.

Throughout this election cycle, the Cobb and Badnarik campaigns have worked together in a spirit of cooperation and civility rarely found in electoral politics. The campaigns jointly participated in and/or sponsored a series of independent debates, and the two candidates were arrested together in St. Louis protesting their exclusion from the restricted, two-party corporate-sponsored "debates." Now, as the election results remain in question, Michael Badnarik and David Cobb are proud to once again act together on behalf of the rights and interests of the American people in reaching the truth.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: badnarik; libertarianparty; thirdparty
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1 posted on 11/11/2004 10:48:55 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Torie; LS
The Badnarik and Cobb campaigns are in the process of raising the required fee, estimated at $110,000, for securing a complete recount. The campaigns are accepting contributions through their web sites. The Badnarik-Campagna website is http://www.badnarik.org. The Cobb-LaMarche website is http://www.votecobb.org.

A fool and his money...

2 posted on 11/11/2004 10:49:16 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Oh joy. Here we go again. What a striking pair of loosing bookends.


3 posted on 11/11/2004 10:50:31 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: ambrose

SOB's.


4 posted on 11/11/2004 10:50:53 AM PST by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: ambrose

You know, before they demand a recount, they might want to wait till there is, in fact, a count.


5 posted on 11/11/2004 10:51:30 AM PST by Moral Hazard
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To: rwfromkansas

It's over fellas. Give it up. There is NO WAY Kerry could garner enough votes in order to gain the lead in OH.

No way.


6 posted on 11/11/2004 10:51:51 AM PST by blakep
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To: ambrose; All

Ah jeez not this sh*t again...


8 posted on 11/11/2004 10:52:17 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Moral Hazard

Hi hi hiii They already know to have lost.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 10:52:54 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: ambrose

Ok, Cobb...instead of six votes, you got five.


10 posted on 11/11/2004 10:52:56 AM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: ambrose

The fact that the count hasn't been finished yet will diminish the likelyhood of them getting a re-count anytime soon.


11 posted on 11/11/2004 10:53:17 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: ambrose
Ohio's election proceedings were marred by numerous press and independent reports of voter intimidation, mis-marked and discarded ballots, problems with electronic voting machines and disenfranchisement -- apparently by design -- of African-American voters.
When?

Where?

How?

First-hand or documented examples only, please.

-Eric

12 posted on 11/11/2004 10:53:49 AM PST by E Rocc (Four More Years - Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue)
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To: ambrose

Doesn't the margin of loss have to be wi/ about .5%
in OH in order to demand a recount? Sorry, clambrains.
I think you two guys collectively accounted for
less than 1% of the vote in OH.

Get over it and date someone else.

MV


13 posted on 11/11/2004 10:55:09 AM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: WKUHilltopper
Perhaps she could win after a recount. Those awful (Black-well) Republicans... [/sarcasm]
14 posted on 11/11/2004 10:55:27 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: Bikers4Bush

I propose a NEW RULE on Free Republic.Libertarians are automaticly zotted like DU scum.


15 posted on 11/11/2004 10:55:39 AM PST by Blessed
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To: ambrose

I do not understand the Green party. They watched while the Dems blocked their former leader Nader from all the ballots, winning in many states. He sure wasn't on our Arizona ballot. They still want the Democrats to prevail and will pull this crap to try to do it, and Nader is right in there with them with N.H. Will this election drag on until January 20th?


16 posted on 11/11/2004 10:55:47 AM PST by BonnieJ
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To: ambrose

Truly pathetic. I don't like this though. I don't trust the RATS.


17 posted on 11/11/2004 10:55:47 AM PST by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: madvlad

You know ... they will be represented by Edwards in Court!


18 posted on 11/11/2004 10:57:03 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: ambrose

Yeah, exactly how much did they lose by? Better be sure.

:-P


19 posted on 11/11/2004 10:57:27 AM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: E Rocc

Isn't it a COINCIDENCE that the only states that will make or break it for the Dims are the ones with "voter irregularities." The other 49 states are just fine.


20 posted on 11/11/2004 10:57:39 AM PST by freepertoo
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To: Blessed
I propose a NEW RULE on Free Republic.Libertarians are automaticly zotted like DU scum.

I've got a proposal - UP YOURS.

21 posted on 11/11/2004 10:58:14 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (DECISION 2004: IT'S THE SPITBALLS, STUPID)
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To: Bikers4Bush

If their desire is to manufacture votes for Kerry by examining "spoiled" ballots, a recount won't do that. All a recount does is... well, recount the votes. I believe that is already being done in the official canvassing process.


22 posted on 11/11/2004 10:58:26 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Go ahead, recount the votes. Bush will still win and the left will still be a bunch of pathetic losers.


23 posted on 11/11/2004 11:00:13 AM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: ambrose; MeekOneGOP; OrthodoxPresbyterian
The candidates also demanded that Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican who chaired the Ohio Bush campaign, recuse himself from the recount process.

He was elected to be the Secretary of State -- the guy who handles voting. It's his job. Also, he ran as a Republican. AND HE WON.

That's like asking the president to recuse himself from being commander in chief in a controversial war.

GIMMEABREAK! Are these people stupid!

24 posted on 11/11/2004 11:00:24 AM PST by xzins ((Now that the election's over; I need a new tagline...))
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To: All

Isn't is strange they don't want to investigate the vote totals in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin...?! Or Michigan!


25 posted on 11/11/2004 11:00:39 AM PST by BonnieJ
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To: KevinDavis
Here's yer sign...


26 posted on 11/11/2004 11:00:49 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: ambrose

Doesn't the vote count in Ohio have to be within 0.25% in order for there to be a recount?


27 posted on 11/11/2004 11:03:25 AM PST by MichelleWSC
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To: BonnieJ

or New Mexico ?


28 posted on 11/11/2004 11:04:44 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: ambrose

FINE...Let's start with Cuyahoga County that reported some 150% voter turnout in favor of KERRY.


29 posted on 11/11/2004 11:05:46 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: E Rocc
Ohio's election proceedings were marred by numerous press and independent reports of voter intimidation, mis-marked and discarded ballots, problems with electronic voting machines and disenfranchisement -- apparently by design -- of African-American voters.

This can't be from a legitimate news service (assuming there are any left).

The bias in this sentence is flashing in red.

30 posted on 11/11/2004 11:06:06 AM PST by skip_intro
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To: ambrose

And to think some folks on this very web site voted for these losers.


31 posted on 11/11/2004 11:06:23 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: Blessed

Yep, we sure don't want anyone who actually supports a free republic on a forum named Freerepublic.
The new motto: "Freerepublic.com, where expedience trumps principle."


32 posted on 11/11/2004 11:06:51 AM PST by flada (At current rates, we can be in Iraq for 118 years to lose the number of troops lost in 'Nam.)
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To: MichelleWSC

That's for an automatic recount. They're free to demand a recount - if they pay for the cost of doing it.

A recount, by itself, doesn't change anything. They just stick the ballots back in the machines and run the numbers again.

The hand recount fiasco in Florida 2000 came as a result of election lawsuits by Gore.


33 posted on 11/11/2004 11:06:52 AM PST by ambrose
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To: xzins

What embezzles! What Ultra-Maroons!


34 posted on 11/11/2004 11:07:04 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: ambrose

Losertarians hard at work


35 posted on 11/11/2004 11:07:23 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: ambrose

move on, borg.


36 posted on 11/11/2004 11:08:40 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

LOL!


37 posted on 11/11/2004 11:09:45 AM PST by xzins ((Now that the election's over; I need a new tagline...))
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To: All

38 posted on 11/11/2004 11:11:56 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: finnman69

Hey, Don King said Bush won fair and square, he lives in Ashtabula and he wasn't dis-enfranchised. So that does it for me.

:O)

P


39 posted on 11/11/2004 11:12:41 AM PST by papasmurf (Kerry..." What are you gonna' believe, me, or your own 2 eyes?"..(Groucho Marx))
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To: ambrose

They had visions of there NEVER being a Republican as
President again, and promises of Bill Clintonesque
escapades in the White House once more, the aura of the
"rich" Teresa as - finally - a First Lady who was
classy - total freedom so that Hollywood could pursue
the goal of making every production a tour through the
DU Language Encyclopedia - Nirvana - and they are sad
because they are puzzled their knight in shining armor,
Kerry, has not once again "rup-ported fer dooty" to
forcibly remove the evil * from the job.

What is that noise I hear, the sound of harmonizing - - -
THUMB SUCKING?!! Is that what it is?!


40 posted on 11/11/2004 11:15:41 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: ambrose
Follow the money:

The Badnarik and Cobb campaigns are in the process of raising the required fee, estimated at $110,000, for securing a complete recount. The campaigns are accepting contributions through their web sites. The Badnarik-Campagna website is http://www.badnarik.org. The Cobb-LaMarche website is http://www.votecobb.org

Reminds me of that Harris woman who's talking about recounts...donate to her website so she can investigate.

The first line of the article mentioned "intent"...my guess is they collect some money, but don't follow through because they won't get "enough".

Reminds me of Kerry soliciting money for his 10,000 lawyers, and it turns out there are not 10,000, only 3,500 lawyers.

But if Dems want to donate to Nader, more power to them.

If I were a dem I'd be suspicious. Seems to me that Nader was the one who told Kerry, "You haven't heard the last from me" (because of the Kerry campaigns tactics of keeping him off the ballots). Perhaps Nader wants to expose Dem fraud with Dem donated money. That would be sweet.

41 posted on 11/11/2004 11:28:36 AM PST by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Perhaps Nader wants to expose Dem fraud with Dem donated money.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the Libertarians joined in on this- I can't imagine them wanting to put Kerry in office.

42 posted on 11/11/2004 11:39:13 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Earth first! We can mine the other planets later.)
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To: ambrose

A Loser-Green Alliance with Nader support. I'm surprised Pat Buchanan hasn't joined in!!


43 posted on 11/11/2004 11:48:34 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
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To: ambrose

“Not Gonna Do It
Would'nt be Prudent.”


44 posted on 11/11/2004 12:02:40 PM PST by Highway55
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To: Jenya

What the ef?


45 posted on 11/11/2004 12:04:58 PM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: blakep

Let them spend their money! The fraud, if there is any, will be in Cuyahoga County...Kerry's county...and Bush will win by even a larger margin.


46 posted on 11/11/2004 12:29:47 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Ciexyz

What the ef what?


47 posted on 11/11/2004 12:34:49 PM PST by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: ambrose

They want Blackwell to recuse himself? Blackwell is one of the few honest politicians in the State. If they want an accurate count, they'd want him kept in place.

If they want to pay the entire costs of a recount, including paying for the time of the elections officials that are doing the recount, then let them. I don't have a problem with some Ohioans making some money.

I still haven't seen any credible accounts of voting irregularities other than the one case where the card used to transfer the votes from the voting machine was faulty and recorded too many votes for Bush.

That problem was obvious, and was caught by the elections officials. Such things are why the vote counts aren't official yet.

We don't even count the overseas absentee ballots or examine the provisional ballots until tomorrow.

I'm all for accurate elections and transparency in the elections process. I just don't want to see my tax dollars being wasted on a pointless recount.

If they want to spend the money, let them. It won't change anything.


48 posted on 11/11/2004 12:39:44 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: ambrose
I think the results of the 2004 election are pretty clear.

That said, I support anybody who might become a big enough PITA to force the politicians to PUT A DAMN PAPER TRAIL ON ALL BALLOTS, ALREADY!!!

49 posted on 11/12/2004 10:19:21 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: ambrose

As the Libertarian Party leadership takes the party further and further from relevence. They are a disgrace to libertarians.


50 posted on 11/12/2004 10:22:30 AM PST by Protagoras (A new day has dawned, FR is now a forum for liberal views.)
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