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Spanish press mocks Zapatero over US snub
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | November 12, 2004 | By Isambard Wilkinson in Madrid

Posted on 11/11/2004 7:55:34 PM PST by aculeus

The Spanish Socialist prime minister, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, yesterday faced a barrage of derision over his government's anti-Americanism following a snub by President George W Bush.

Mr Zapatero was one of the first premiers to send a congratulatory telegram to Mr Bush after his election victory last week.

But, in what was a stinging confirmation of the poor state of relations between Washington and Madrid, he has yet to receive a reply.

Mr Zapatero had also telephoned Mr Bush before the election result was made official but was not put through to the president.

Spain's newspaper columnists, the opposition People's Party and satirists have made much of the silence between Washington and Madrid.

Mr Zapatero wrote himself firmly into the White House's black books by accusing Mr Bush and Tony Blair of lying over the reasons for going to war with Iraq.

In the summer he immediately honoured an election pledge to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq.

He then backed John Kerry in the presidential election and cancelled a standing invitation for US forces to participate in Spain's annual military parade.

Anti-war policies may be popular with the public, but even supportive sections of the media have said that the prime minister's anti-American stance had gone too far.

Most sectors of the Spanish press concluded that the telephone spat was "infantile" but that Mr Zapatero needed to act fast to recover Spain's loss of face abroad.

A columnist for the conservative newspaper ABC, stated bluntly: "Zapatero has put his foot in all of our arses".

White House officials denied there had been a snub and said that Mr Bush had not yet had time to contact Mr Zapatero as he was working his way through a list of calls.

However Mr Bush has already spoken to the French president, Jacques Chirac, and German chancellor Gerhard Schröder, the main critics of the Iraq war.

And to rub Mr Zapatero's nose in the transatlantic mess further, Mr Bush has invited King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia to a supper during their visit later this month.

US diplomatic sources quoted in the newspaper La Vanguardia said the king will serve as a bridge toward restoring dialogue between the two governments.


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KEYWORDS: carlos; iraq; kingcarlos; kingjuancarlos; queensofia; sofia; spain; zapatero
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A columnist for the conservative newspaper ABC, stated bluntly: "Zapatero has put his foot in all of our arses".
1 posted on 11/11/2004 7:55:34 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Yet one more reason why Dubya deserved re-election.


2 posted on 11/11/2004 7:59:51 PM PST by kesg
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To: aculeus
"Zapatero has put his foot in all of our arses".

Let's hope he removes his cranium from that particular orfice belonging to Chirac.

3 posted on 11/11/2004 8:00:43 PM PST by peyton randolph (Time for Bush to pack the U.S. Supremes)
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To: aculeus

4 posted on 11/11/2004 8:01:53 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: peyton randolph

It's worth remembering that not all Europeans are socialist appeasers. Some are just like us, and must be totally ashamed of what their governments have become.


5 posted on 11/11/2004 8:02:20 PM PST by Callahan
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To: aculeus
It's not just a telephone snub. Other stories have pointed out that the US has canceled contracts with Spain's failing shipbuilding yard and refused to enlarge the naval facility at Rota. Big economic kick in the arse.
6 posted on 11/11/2004 8:04:32 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: aculeus
Remember the Maine and to Hell with Spain!
7 posted on 11/11/2004 8:04:57 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: aculeus
Zapatero is as stupid as the french. You don't insult and betray a man and then expect him to act like nothing ever happened.

"Don't pee on my shoe and tell me it's raining."

8 posted on 11/11/2004 8:05:27 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: Callahan

Yes, I think Spain will come around again in due course. But Zapatero deserves no encouragement. He will now proceed to wreck their economy and be voted out when they tire of him.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 8:05:34 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: aculeus
It's even worse, Zapatero's defeated opponent, Aznar, visited the White House a few days ago in a private meeting with President Bush.

Somebody ought to tell these foreign idiots that loyalty runs deep in Texas, we remember friends - and - foes.

10 posted on 11/11/2004 8:05:39 PM PST by xJones
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To: Callahan
Some are just like us, and must be totally ashamed of what their governments have become.

Agreed. Just look at the Dutch backlash to the Islamofascist murder of Van Gogh. The politicians are backpedaling from appeasement in order to maintain power.

11 posted on 11/11/2004 8:05:40 PM PST by peyton randolph (Time for Bush to pack the U.S. Supremes)
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To: aculeus

Zappy the Pinhead?


12 posted on 11/11/2004 8:06:03 PM PST by hnorris (Deserve Victory)
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To: Callahan

Heck, I'm of Spaniard descent (though born an American citizen, no dual loyalty, believe me) and I'm quite ashamed of what the Spaniards did in that election.

But thank you for your post. Remember, they made that decision in the trauma of a very recent terrorist attack, all polls indicate they WERE going to reelect Aznar (sp?), and it seems clear to me from this article that more than a few of them are beginning to regret that choice. I hope Freepers will have enough forgiveness and class in their hearts to welcome Spain as allies again without too much resentment, SHOULD Spain earn it by kicking Zapatero out in the next election.

Yeah, they screwed up, but they -did- hang with us for the first phase of it, their support was considered the 4th most important in the world at the time, and one bad election after a terrorist attack (and who knows that kind of voter fraud the commies over there are capable of, too) shouldn't render them the moral equivalents of the French. They don't deserve that. NO ONE deserves that.

Qwinn


13 posted on 11/11/2004 8:08:37 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: hnorris

Figures. For a guy's name which appears to mean "The Shoe Salesman".


14 posted on 11/11/2004 8:09:18 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Troops! Repudiation of Senator Specter is our remaining "Electoral Vote" outstanding.)
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A columnist for the conservative newspaper ABC, stated bluntly: "Zapatero has put his foot in all of our arses".
15 posted on 11/11/2004 8:10:37 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

BTTT


16 posted on 11/11/2004 8:10:43 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: aculeus
A columnist for the conservative newspaper ABC, stated bluntly: "Zapatero has put his foot in all of our arses".

Uh, no. Zapatero has only done what the Spanish people had mandated him to do. Now Bush is only doing what we, the American people, have mandated him to do.

It's not that Bush has snubbed Zapatero. It's that the American people have snubbed the Spanish people.

17 posted on 11/11/2004 8:10:46 PM PST by Physicist
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To: aculeus
Hey Spain...


18 posted on 11/11/2004 8:11:09 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT- B.F.)
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To: Physicist

bump to your post; I agree....Bush's actions transcends himSELF, as usual.


19 posted on 11/11/2004 8:11:34 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Qwinn
shouldn't render them the moral equivalents of the French. They don't deserve that. NO ONE deserves that.

Hmm...how can the French not be the moral equivalent of the French?

20 posted on 11/11/2004 8:12:23 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Qwinn

Yeah, the Spaniard are close to 50% conservative, much like the US. Don't write those folk off.


21 posted on 11/11/2004 8:12:32 PM PST by expatpat
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To: aculeus
"... columnist for the conservative newspaper ABC, stated bluntly: "Zapatero has put his foot in all of our arses".

Had Kerry been elected his nose would have been up there.

22 posted on 11/11/2004 8:13:01 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: aculeus
White House officials denied there had been a snub and said that Mr Bush had not yet had time to contact Mr Zapatero as he was working his way through a list of calls

zapatero is near the end of the alphabet...

23 posted on 11/11/2004 8:15:56 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: aculeus
White House officials denied there had been a snub and said that Mr Bush had not yet had time to contact Mr Zapatero as he was working his way through a list of calls.

I believe it - after all zapatero does start with a z!!

24 posted on 11/11/2004 8:16:27 PM PST by aquila48
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To: Qwinn
I hope Freepers will have enough forgiveness and class in their hearts to welcome Spain as allies again without too much resentment, SHOULD Spain earn it by kicking Zapatero out in the next election.

our tent is large and we always welcome like-minded souls, even if there is a little bit of disagreement.

25 posted on 11/11/2004 8:17:39 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: aculeus

This is one of things I most like about the Bushies. Why be phony to those who have undermined you in the past? Screw them, and make it public. And make them have to answer for their actions. It's a beautiful thing to see.


26 posted on 11/11/2004 8:18:28 PM PST by raptor29
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To: Physicist

Sorry, the "no one deserves" to be treated like the French should definetly have excepted the French themselves. I figured that was implicit ;) But the French have spent 200 years properly earning our deep scorn and contempt, there's no single or even dozen acts the Spanish are capable of that should equate.

Qwinn


27 posted on 11/11/2004 8:19:06 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: aquila48

[i]"Yeah, the Spaniard are close to 50% conservative, much like the US. Don't write those folk off."[/i]

I agree with this. Only a few percent shifted after the islamic terrorist attacks in Spain.

Spain has had the most incredible anti-terrorism police/intelligence investigative efforts. Their judiciary simply could not be better or stronger on anti-terrorism.
I have hope for the Spanish, they are nowhere near as lost as the French.


28 posted on 11/11/2004 8:21:27 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Qwinn

Spain punked out.


29 posted on 11/11/2004 8:26:21 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Qwinn

When they elected to choose Zapatero as their representative they encouraged terrorists worldwide in the belief they could successfully alter a Government's foreign policy through threat or practice of violence. I put that on par with France's actions throughout the last few years.

However, we're a forgiving people. If they toss him out in the next election, they'll be accepted back on a conditional basis. The condition being they must prove they won't run at the next display of intimidation.

I do note about a third did not vote for Zapatero. I also note the bravery of the troops that did serve, and whatever their views, hold them with respect for that service. And, I remain fond of Aznar.

But I am immensely enjoying G.W.'s treatment of Zapatero. LOL


30 posted on 11/11/2004 8:28:27 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: raptor29

We blamed a lot of Spain's attitude on Zapatero, but consider, the Spanish reacted to the March 11th bombings exactly how al-Qaeda wished them to.

The Arabs slaughtered the Spaniards, and in turn, the Spaniards blamed us and the Brits.

Zapatero's election was the will of the Spanish electorate. They were firmly anti-war. Indeed, they weren't all that hot on the whole idea of the War on Terror. Further, Zapatero ordered an immediate withdraw from Iraq and taunted the U.S. while our forces were in the midst of the first battle of Fallujah and the initial Sadrist uprising.

Bush and his people have long memories. That is good.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

31 posted on 11/11/2004 8:29:04 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Qwinn

Qwinn - Also, the Spainish MEDIA was spinning AGAINST USA/Iraq at the time (pre-election/train bombing)!


32 posted on 11/11/2004 8:29:30 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: Callahan

"It's worth remembering that not all Europeans are socialist appeasers. Some are just like us, and must be totally ashamed of what their governments have become."

Yes, but there's a 90% chance that their children will be full blown socialists.

After one more generation, there will be little common sense left in the European populace. If there is any European populace left after the Islamic maniacs have their blood letting.


33 posted on 11/11/2004 8:30:25 PM PST by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

LOL! I love that side-by-side comparison.

Bring back Aznar.


34 posted on 11/11/2004 8:32:20 PM PST by Rocky
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To: section9

stan alone complex


35 posted on 11/11/2004 8:32:59 PM PST by misusu21
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To: aculeus

Socialists? We don't need no stinkin' Socialists!


36 posted on 11/11/2004 8:34:15 PM PST by elizabetty
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To: Qwinn

Spain is irrelevant!

Podia haber sido, no cera ahora es nada!!!


37 posted on 11/11/2004 8:38:18 PM PST by bubman
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To: aculeus

Throw the bum out and things'll get back to normal!


38 posted on 11/11/2004 8:38:27 PM PST by eagle11
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To: Qwinn

Aznar himself wasn't in the running, IIRC. His party's candidate was defeated by the socialists after the Madrid bombings.

Prairie


39 posted on 11/11/2004 8:57:56 PM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: Qwinn

Sorry, Zapatero dug his own grave. Receiving forgiveness from President Bush would only help Zapatero politically. The rift should remain for as long as Zapatero is in office. President Bush and his supporters have no falling out with the Spanish people.


40 posted on 11/11/2004 9:07:07 PM PST by citizencon
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To: Qwinn

Quinn:

what percentage of the population is MOOOOslim, and what impact do they presently have on politics?


41 posted on 11/11/2004 9:12:27 PM PST by bitt (I miss Teresa already.)
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To: bitt
Spain showed their true colors. Now they have to live with their decisions.

Punks.

42 posted on 11/11/2004 9:17:12 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: aculeus

This communist POS chose unwisely. Suffer sucker!


43 posted on 11/11/2004 9:33:54 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Callahan

Tuff Tukkus!

They need to run those turds out of office. Until they gain some b@lls and take control of the communists in their midst, they'll get absolutely NO respect from me.


44 posted on 11/11/2004 9:35:51 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Qwinn

THIS FReeper will welcome Spain back with open arms; ONCE they kick that communist POS out of office. Until then, Spain will get what it deserves.


46 posted on 11/11/2004 9:38:08 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Bonaparte
"Zapatero is as stupid as the french. You don't insult and betray a man and then expect him to act like nothing ever happened.

Senator Specter....Arlen baby.....pick up the phone.....hello......anyone home...?

"and Don't pee on my shoe and tell me it's raining."

47 posted on 11/11/2004 10:01:32 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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To: wrathof59

What do you think the socialist percentage is in the next U.S. generation? "Only" 60-70%?


48 posted on 11/11/2004 10:24:44 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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To: peyton randolph

Agreed. Just look at the Dutch backlash to the Islamofascist murder of Van Gogh. The politicians are backpedaling from appeasement in order to maintain power.


I got a Swedish absentee ballot for the election of European Parlament. Believe it or not, the information is translated from Swedish to the following languages: Bosnian, Croats, Serbian, English, Estonia, Finnish, French, Dutch, Italian, Polish, Somalia, Spanish, Turkish, German, Hungarian, Russian, Kurdish, Persian, Arabian, wow!!!


49 posted on 11/11/2004 10:43:00 PM PST by danamco
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To: Qwinn

Sheesh people... AZNAR WAS NOT RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION!


50 posted on 11/11/2004 11:01:16 PM PST by ambrose
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