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The Plots Thicken "The most trusted man in America" becomes a conspiracy theorist.
OpinionJournal ^ | 11/12/2004

Posted on 11/12/2004 6:21:17 AM PST by StoneGiant

When Walter Cronkite talked on CNN last month about Osama bin Laden's scary pre-election video, yet another cat leapt out of the conspiracy-theory bag. "I'm a little inclined to think," Mr. Cronkite told host Larry King, "that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing."

It's not clear whether this was a tasteless joke or a stray filament of wishful thinking; Mr. King probed no further. Yet the comment was a reminder that conspiracy theorizing--formerly confined to the realms of alien abduction kooks and grassy-knoll debaters--is edging ever closer to the mainstream. Like it or not.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; cronkite; media; politics

1 posted on 11/12/2004 6:21:17 AM PST by StoneGiant
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To: StoneGiant

"Most Trusted Man in America" and "Conspiracy Theorist" are mutually exclusive titles.


2 posted on 11/12/2004 6:24:48 AM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: StoneGiant

Thank God that the new media is loosening the grip that these whackjob communists' had on all the so called "news" outlets.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 6:27:04 AM PST by zygoat
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To: The_Victor

""I'm a little inclined to think," Mr. Cronkite told host Larry King...

Unfortunately, Cronkite has never been inclined to think well.

Cronkite never has been very bright. He was an announcer -- a very overpaid one. A reasonant voice sounds authoritative and reassuring to people, but audiences should listen well to the message.


4 posted on 11/12/2004 6:29:35 AM PST by docbnj
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To: StoneGiant

Cronkite and Kerry ...Soulmates to the end...


5 posted on 11/12/2004 6:29:40 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: The_Victor

The word "Senile" come to mind


6 posted on 11/12/2004 6:29:54 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: StoneGiant; risk; PhilDragoo; reformjoy; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; conservogirl; ...

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NEVER FORGET


In the year 2000...

HILLARY's No. 1 Media Defensive Linebacker & Anti-U.S. Internationalist WALTER CRONKITE went to a London World Conference and called for our all our Southern States to secede from our Union in violation of our U.S. Constitution. AP fully reported this to the World at the time.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.


NEVER FORGET

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7 posted on 11/12/2004 6:31:37 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: zygoat; risk

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CRONKITE II = DAN RATHER

"Your" Los Angeles Times says...


DAVID SHAW: DAN RATHER's work 'Shoddy, Slipshod' not LIBERAL

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227809/posts

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8 posted on 11/12/2004 6:35:55 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: docbnj

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CRONKITE was spawned by DON HEWITT
RATHER was spawned by DON HEWITT
'60 Mins was spawned by DON HEWITT


...on purpose.


The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

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9 posted on 11/12/2004 6:39:56 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Martins kid; docbnj
It's much worse than him being senile or just a news media "mouthpiece". He was an intelligence specialist in WW II in RUSSIA where he apparently hooked up with the Communists - most likely an agent of some sort.

In recent years, Cronkite has spent spouting off at the mouth in speeches like this to the "World Federalists Association" about the formulation for a global government (I.e. the US subjugating its sovereignty to the likes of UN or something similar).

And Hillary Clinton was in on it too!

A speech by Walter Cronkite - United Nations, national sovereignty and the future of the world
upon receiving the Norman Cousins Global Governance Award, on October 19, 1999, at the UN Delegates Dining Room

" I am greatly honored to receive this Norman Cousins Global Governance Award for two reasons:

First, I believe as Norman Cousins did that the first priority of humankind in this era is to establish an effective system of world law that will assure peace with justice among the peoples of the world.

Second, I feel sentimental about this award because half a century ago Norman offered me a job as spokesman and Washington lobbyist for the World Federalist organization, which was then in its infancy.

I chose instead to continue in the world of journalism. For many years, I did my best to report on the issues of the day in as objective a manner as possible. When I had my own strong opinions, as I often did, I tried not to communicate them to my audience.

Now, however, my circumstances are different. I am in a position to speak my mind. And that is what I propose to do. Those of us who are living today can influence the future of civilization. We can influence whether our planet will drift into chaos and violence, or whether through a monumental educational and political effort we will achieve a world of peace under a system of law where individual violators of the law are brought to justice.

For most of this fairly long life I have been an optimist harboring a belief that as our globe shrank, as our communication miracles brought us closer together, we would begin to appreciate the commonality of our universal desire to live in peace and that we would do something to satisfy that yearning of all peoples. Today I find it harder to cling to that hope.

For how many thousands of years now have we humans been what we insist on calling "civilized?" And yet, in total contradiction, we also persist in the savage belief that we must occasionally, at least, settle our arguments by killing one another.

While we spend much of our time and a great deal of our treasure in preparing for war, we see no comparable effort to establish a lasting peace. Meanwhile, emphasizing the sloth in this regard, those advocates who work for world peace by urging a system of world government are called impractical dreamers. Those impractical dreamers are entitled to ask their critics what is so practical about war.

It seems to many of us that if we are to avoid the eventual catastrophic world conflict we must strengthen the United Nations as a first step toward a world government patterned after our own government with a legislature, executive and judiciary, and police to enforce its international laws and keep the peace.

To do that, of course, we Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill. It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith in the new order.

But the American colonies did it once and brought forth one of the most nearly perfect unions the world has ever seen. The circumstances were vastly different, obviously. While the colonies differed on many questions, at least the people of the colonies were of the same Anglo-Saxon stock. Yet just because the task appears forbiddingly hard, we should not shirk it.

We cannot defer this responsibility to posterity. Time will not wait. Democracy, civilization itself, is at stake. Within the next few years we must change the basic structure of our global community from the present anarchic system of war and ever more destructive weaponry to a new system governed by a democratic UN federation.

I suppose I'm preaching to the choir here. So let's not talk generalities but focus tonight on a few specifics of what the leadership of the World Federalist Movement believe must be done now to advance the rule of world law.

For starters, we can draw on the wisdom of the framers of the US Constitution in 1787. The differences among the American states then were as bitter as differences among the nation-states in the world today.

In their almost miraculous insight, the founders of our country invented "federalism," a concept that is rooted in the rights of the individual. Our federal system guarantees a maximum of freedom but provides it in a framework of law and justice.

Our forefathers believed that the closer the laws are to the people, the better. Cities legislate on local matters; states make decisions on matters within their borders; and the national government deals with issues that transcend the states, such as interstate commerce and foreign relations. That is federalism.

Today we must develop federal structures on a global level. We need a system of enforceable world law-- a democratic federal world government--to deal with world problems. What Alexander Hamilton wrote about the need for law among the 13 states applies today to the approximately 200 sovereignties in our global village: "To look for a continuation of harmony between a number of independent, unconnected sovereignties in the same neighborhood, would be to disregard the uniform course of human events, and to set at defiance the accumulated experience of ages."

Today the notion of unlimited national sovereignty means international anarchy. We must replace the anarchic law of force with a civilized force of law.

Ours will neither be a perfect world, nor a world without disagreement and occasional violence. But it will be a world where the overwhelming majority of national leaders will consistently abide by the rule of world law, and those who won't will be dealt with effectively and with due process by the structures of that same world law. We will never have a city without crime, but we would never want to live in a city that had no system of law to deal with the criminals who will always be with us.

Let me make three suggestions for immediate action that would move us in a direction firmly in the American tradition of law and democracy.
1. Keep our promises: We helped create the UN and to develop the UN assessment formula. Americans overwhelmingly want us to pay our UN dues, with no crippling limitations. We owe it to the world. In fact, we owe it as well to our national self-esteem.
2. Ratify the Treaty to Ban Land Mines, the Law of the Sea Treaty, the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, the Convention to Eliminate All forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Most important, we should sign and ratify the Treaty for a Permanent International Criminal Court. That Court will enable the world to hold individuals accountable for crimes against humanity.
3. Consider, after 55 years, the possibility of a more representative and democratic system of decision making at the UN. This should include both revision of the Veto in the Security Council and adoption of a weighted voting system for the General Assembly. The World Federalists have endorsed Richard Hudson's Binding Triad proposal. George Soros, in his recent book, "The Crisis of Global Capitalism" has given serious attention to this concept which would be based upon not only one-nation-one-vote but also, on population and contributions to the UN budget.

Resolutions adopted by majorities in each of these three areas would be binding, enforceable law. Within the powers given to it in the Charter, the UN could then deal with matters of reliable financing, a standing UN Peace force, development, the environment and human rights.

Some of you may ask why the Senate is not ratifying these important treaties and why the Congress is not paying our UN dues. Even as with the American rejection of the League of Nations, our failure to live up to our obligations to the United Nations is led by a handful of willful senators who choose to pursue their narrow, selfish political objectives at the cost of our nation's conscience.

They pander to and are supported by the Christian Coalition and the rest of the religious right wing. Their leader, Pat Robertson, has written that we should have a world government but only when the messiah arrives. Any attempt to achieve world order before that time must be the work of the Devil!

This small but well-organized group, has intimidated both the Republican Party and the Clinton administration. It has attacked each of our Presidents since FDR for supporting the United Nations. Robertson explains that these Presidents were and are the unwitting agents of Lucifer.

The only way we who believe in the vision of a democratic world federal government can effectively overcome this reactionary movement is to organize a strong educational counteroffensive stretching from the most publicly visible people in all fields to the humblest individuals in every community. That is the vision and the program of the World Federalist Association.

The strength of the World Federalist program would serve an important auxiliary purpose at this particular point in our history. There would be immediate diplomatic advantages in just the world knowledge that this country was even beginning to explore the prospect of strengthening the UN.

We would appear before the peoples of the world as the champion of peace for all by the equitable sharing of power. This in sharp contrast to the growing concern that we intend to use our current dominant military power to enforce a sort of pax Americana.

Our country today is at a stage in our foreign policy similar to that crucial point in our nation's early history when our Constitution was produced in Philadelphia. Let us hear the peal of a new international liberty bell that calls us all to the creation of a system of enforceable world law in which the universal desire for peace can place its hope and prayers.

As Carl Van Doren has written, "History is now choosing the founders of the World Federation. Any person who can be among that number and fails to do so has lost the noblest opportunity of a lifetime.""

10 posted on 11/12/2004 6:40:16 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace (Michael <a href = "http://www.michaelmoore.com/" title="Miserable Failure">"Miserable Failure"</a>)
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To: docbnj

Kronkite lied to the American people 5 nights a week for 25 years!!


11 posted on 11/12/2004 6:41:53 AM PST by international american (GOD BLESS OUR VETERANS! LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!!)
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To: StoneGiant
The "most trusted man" mass mind control operation was a conspiracy theory in itself.

It had to be the result of some cooked poll and pollsters are a wing of the media.

There was a time when the answer "Walter Cronkite" to the question "Who is the most trusted man" wasn't even an opinion, it was the "correct answer" and a different answer was the "wrong answer".

12 posted on 11/12/2004 6:42:26 AM PST by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: StoneGiant
"Most Trusted Man in America" in the end turned out to be an open socialist/communist and supporter of a New World Order!
13 posted on 11/12/2004 6:44:47 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: StoneGiant; ModernDayHeroes.com

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Check out how Enemy Within WALTER CRONKITE helped deny the once Free People of South Vietnam their Freedom thru "Free" American TV:


'WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE..& YOUNG'..4 FREEDOM

http://www.Freerepublic.com/forum/a39626542519c.htm




Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDEIRS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965, Landing Zone Falcon

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Photos)

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14 posted on 11/12/2004 6:49:01 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I didn't read your post before I posted #13.

Uncle Walt's own words reveal his true beliefs and feelings!

15 posted on 11/12/2004 6:49:50 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
In the 1950s, Walter Cronkite hosted a CBS-TV program that used real network correspondents to report events from days well before radio or TV in the style of "live" television news. Called You Are There,* the program taught history -- and had a secret history of its own. All the writers were victims of the McCarthy-era blacklist. They used the tales of Joan of Arc, Galileo and other historical figures to make thinly disguised points about contemporary witch hunts. -- From [a] March 19 [NPR] Cronkite Essay: In March 1954, Edward R. Murrow, pictured here, and producer Fred Friendly aired on their show See It Now an attack on Sen. Joseph McCarthy. They took a big risk, but today the broadcast is considered one of the most influential in television history.


Communists are not conspiring to manipulate the media! (spoof of Eric Sevareid)

16 posted on 11/12/2004 6:50:49 AM PST by risk
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To: StoneGiant
Thank God, the Old Media is dying. Sorry Walter, we are not your puppets any longer. You and your network have been found out, for what you are. And now we actually have a FREE Press, the Internet.
18 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:17 AM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: StoneGiant

Cronkite is an old 1930s Stalinist. And, like many of his ilk, he has not allowed reality to change that.


19 posted on 11/12/2004 7:17:59 AM PST by Skooz (Kerry Voters = Parasites of Freedom)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
It's much worse than him being senile or just a news media "mouthpiece". He was an intelligence specialist in WW II in RUSSIA where he apparently hooked up with the Communists - most likely an agent of some sort.

No. Cronkite was a war correspondant who dropped with the US Airborne during Operation Market-Garden.

20 posted on 11/12/2004 7:20:34 AM PST by Skooz (Kerry Voters = Parasites of Freedom)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 11/12/2004 8:00:09 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: risk

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"A Day like all days,

...except You Are There"

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22 posted on 11/12/2004 8:52:00 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: StoneGiant

I found some of the examples interesting:



While the most notable examples now appear to be election-inspired and coming from the left, the direction may not be that significant. Experts who study conspiracy phenomena tend to agree on one thing: that at any given time people whose party is out of power are the most receptive to theories -- about computer hackers in Florida, mind-controlling pro-Bush psychics, Osama "October Surprises" -- that address their frustrations. In fact, the majority of all conspiracy theories seem to grow out of a sense of helplessness. The particular impulse that gave birth to a Web article like "Royal Conspiracy: Princess Diana Names Her Killer" by Uri Dowbenko may be wacko. Yet who can fault ordinary people who would prefer an explanation featuring palace assassins over a verdict that underlined the randomness of cruel fate?

Yasser Arafat probably wasn't poisoned, but it's no surprise if perpetually discombobulated Palestinians want to think he was. The otherwise lucid actor Will Smith has espoused the belief that AIDS is part of a plot to strike down black people. That's a classic example, says Tim Melley, the University of Miami (Ohio) professor who wrote "Empire of Conspiracy: The Culture of Paranoia in Postwar America." Many conspiracists function like sociologists at first, he notes, "identifying patterns of inequity...that have effects on society" -- and then they jump to blame everything on a deliberate plan. "It's comforting. It provides an explanation that explains why your group is down and out."

Mr. Melley suspects that whatever form conspiracy theories take, they'll be intruding more into our consciousness in the future. For better or worse, he says, the major media are losing their authority as arbiters of the truth. The proliferation of alternative news sources on the Web and talk radio, for instance, reflects and feeds the notion that what the media powers-that-be are telling us is not the real story. Add to that the bombardments of ubiquitous advertising, and you get what Mr. Melley calls "agency panic," where "people are worried about their own ability to control themselves, worried that someone has gotten into their head and manipulated their desire."

So far, most Americans still have an internal meter that instantly registers the difference between questions worth exploring and questions, like Mr. Cronkite's, that are coming from places they definitely don't need to visit. University of Florida law professor Mark Fenster, the author of "Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture," has detected almost no belief in various 9/11 conspiracy scenarios. And many of the election-period charges, he says, can be attributed to normal "partisan political rhetoric."


23 posted on 11/12/2004 9:29:38 AM PST by OESY
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