Posted on 11/12/2004 7:23:18 AM PST by kcvl
Per Fox News...
Office bound, please update as available. Thanks.
Remember the Mog.
There is nothing else on it yet. I'll keep looking and listening.
Fox just now talking about it.
Shot down north of Bagdad. Three U.S. crew members were injured but are expected to fully recover.
Fox just reported that they are in our hands.
Thank God!
and that didn't happen last time
Great news that crew is in safe hands - prayers offered up.
Did they really call them "TERRORISTS"??? That would be a major MSM shift. I thought these guys were all "insurgents" and "rebels" and "gunmen".
Some minor differences here.
We have tanks, brads, Apaches, Cobras, M113s, Artillery, and nearly 10,000 of our troops alone. In Somalia our guys were left light and by themselves.
Red6
You forgot, Sweethearts!
We didn't have armor on the scene last time. Clinton and Albright refused the request of the commanders on the ground, saying it would be too "provacative" for there to be armor present. And Les Aspin, the SecDef, didn't have the integrity to resign noisily when this went down. Several Rangers likely died because of this.
The terrorists crap? Or ours? Hoping for the former. Crispy critters.
The Blackhawk is a piece of crap
Yes, they called them TERRORISTS. It was Fox News, of course.
Army Blackhawk helicopter shot down
11/12/2004, 10:29 a.m. ET
The Associated Press
NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) — A U.S. helicopter was shot down Friday north of Baghdad, and its three crew members were wounded, the U.S military said.
The UH-60 Black Hawk was hit by anti-aircraft fire in Taji, 12 miles north of the capital, the military said.
Three of the four crew members were injured in the attack, but are expected to recover, the U.S. military said. The crew was rescued and the helicopter was recovered.
drop the G DAMN MOABS!!!!!! WHose running that show? Drop 100 MOABs..then go forward.
Thank you God and thanks for the post
So I've heard and why my heart stays in my throat
But then later....Les Aspin died.
The majority of the Task Force boys died because of Clinton and Aspin. The Little Birds did a fantastic job, but they were too few in number. Had they allowed a pair of AC130 Spectres aloft, and perhaps some Bradleys and M1s on the ground, things would have been different. It likely would not have been casualty-free, but maybe a kill ratio of 1000-1. As it was, the kill ratio was about 90-100 to 1, but one American was too much in trade for 100 somalis, at least IMHO.
Nonsense. It is a machine of enormously higher capability than the hueys it replaced. It is particularly superior in survivability in general, and survivability for aircrew in the event of a shootdown or crash. It has twin engines, protective armour and energy-absorbing seats, and a transmission armoured against 23mm hits.
Yes, there is a process of designing a successor, but it is just getting underway. The Army would have been stuck flying the Hueys alongside the hawks until 2037 to 2040 under Shinseki's transformation plan -- thank God for President Bush and General Schoomaker. The Hueys are museum-bound in honourable retirement -- now.
The enemy gets a move in this chess game, too, you know; he is not universally retarded, he is quite brave, and he is armed to the teeth. He's going to get the occaisional helicopter. He's got a couple of recon copters, too. No biggie: Sikorsky and Bell have the jigs to build more, and so far all the crews I've heard about have been rescued. We can't rebuild them.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
Well put.
Luck takes no sides. The death-worshippers got lucky this time. They won't the next time - and I'm certain that that next time will be very soon indeed.
Have any names been released? I know a couple of guys out there flying Blackhawks with the MO National Guard.
No. But if it helps they are going to be just fine. They are in the hands of the U. S. Military and will make a full recovery.
Fallujah ? I hear near the Taji .
Yeah, it was one of mine. Neither (my copilot)or myself were on it, but we were involved in the aftermath. One pilot was uninjured, the crewchief got a bullet in the leg, the gunner got shrapnel/bullet (I'm not sure which) in the ass, and the other pilot (a female staff officer from our battalion) was more seriously injured. Not a fun day for us here.
Well, he died quietly, shortly thereafter. That should count for something. Shame on Wisconsin ....
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