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Teresa Heinz Kerry, Unfair Attacks on
MSNBC. MSN ^ | Melinda Henneberger

Posted on 11/12/2004 7:25:25 AM PST by Imnotalib

President Hillary? We’re not even ready for a First Lady who deviates from the script—or, heaven forfend, has a little bit of a mouth on her.

Yet in the main, Heinz Kerry’s remarks were only shocking in contrast to the overprocessed and infantilizing blah-blah that characterize most political speech.

And whatever you think of Kerry’s candidacy, his wife is someone who has undeniably devoted her considerable energies and resources to making this world a better place, using her foundation to fund important research on women’s health, the environment and early-childhood development. As everyone knows, her first husband, Sen. John Heinz, was heir to the Heinz ketchup fortune, and she could have spent her life shoe shopping. That we might have found patriotic.

By the end of the campaign, her approval ratings were in the range normally reserved for the defrocked and the deposed. And why is that? Does America really hate women that much?

I think so, yes. Not all of the criticism was partisan, after all.

We found it odd that she made no attempt to hide the fact that she had a life before John Kerry. (What really grated was not that she thinks “it’s all about her”—but that she doesn’t think it’s all about him.) Then, too, for all of our purported yearning for authenticity, we balked at her refusal to feign complete absorption in whatever phony political moment was at hand.

Perhaps most unforgivably, she is unself-consciously sexy at 66 and not unaware of her power as a woman.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airbag; attacks; drunk; firstlady; heinz; imbecilicdemocrat; kerry; teresa
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Sexy? You have got to be kidding.
1 posted on 11/12/2004 7:25:26 AM PST by Imnotalib
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To: Imnotalib

Dear Melinda Henneberger,

Shove it, Scumbag.


Love,


Teresa


2 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:28 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Imnotalib

We found it odd that she made no attempt to hide the fact that she had a life before John Kerry.

ah yeah, she managed to marry a rich guy just like Kerry managed to marry a rich widow. In the end they were both whores.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:36 AM PST by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Imnotalib
Perhaps most unforgivably, she is unself-consciously sexy at 66 and not unaware of her power as a woman.

Mamma T is no Sophia Loren.

4 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:37 AM PST by rabidralph (Your car's not as cool in person as it is on TV.)
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To: Imnotalib

What about Teresa's unfair attacks on Laura Bush, the President ("4 more years of hell"), journalists and other people about whom she resorted to low and crass name-calling?


5 posted on 11/12/2004 7:27:59 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Imnotalib

She's probably sexy to Melinda.


6 posted on 11/12/2004 7:28:10 AM PST by marvlus
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To: Imnotalib

Sexy maybe for a shrunken head fetishest.


7 posted on 11/12/2004 7:28:48 AM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: Imnotalib
Does America really hate women that much?

Why is it that these clowns are unable to distinguish a disagreement on politics, and a hatred of women speaking out?

8 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:02 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Imnotalib

That hair!


9 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:06 AM PST by BellStar (Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: Imnotalib; mountaineer; BigWaveBetty; Hillary's Lovely Legs; Howlin

Mega barf alert!


10 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:24 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Unam Sanctam

Read the full article to see more criticism of Laura Bush by Melinda.


11 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:38 AM PST by Imnotalib (Kerry-Edwards=Liar-thief)
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To: Imnotalib

Sexy?? No. She is nutzo psychotic,African "scumbag" that married a do nothing, traitorous, lying piece of......


12 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:58 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: Imnotalib

"or, heaven forfend, has a little bit of a mouth on her."

WTF?


13 posted on 11/12/2004 7:30:28 AM PST by zygoat
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To: Imnotalib
Have another hit of breakfast, Melinda.


14 posted on 11/12/2004 7:30:43 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Imnotalib

What an idiotic, incoherent rant.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 7:30:51 AM PST by VRWCmember ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Imnotalib

Uhhh...no thanks.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 7:31:09 AM PST by SAJ
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To: Dr Snide

Birds of a feather flock together


17 posted on 11/12/2004 7:31:10 AM PST by zahal724 (I own a lumber company? Want some wood?)
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To: Imnotalib

I was just think that too?

Teresa SEXY? You've got to be kidding!

She's rude, self centered and self absorbed. The rest of the article gives examples of it. As usual, truth is not a friend of liberals. There's always some paranoid reason why others don't like them - botox treatments or not.


18 posted on 11/12/2004 7:31:28 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: VRWCmember
What an idiotic, incoherent RAT!
19 posted on 11/12/2004 7:31:47 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: Imnotalib

Teresa is not unattractive, but seemed to go out of her way to look like a hag!

Boy is the woman who wrote this carrying some baggage.
Listen dear, it's not that America didn't like Teresa because she had "a bit of a mouth", it's that she was looney. What came out of that mouth was arrogant, condescending, or just plan rude. So this writer can "shove it!"
By the way, it was "all about John Kerry", NOT Teresa! He was running to be the CIC of the most powerful nation in the world. How could it not be all about him?


20 posted on 11/12/2004 7:32:07 AM PST by brownsfan (Moderate Muslim: They will offer to let you convert before they kill you.)
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To: Imnotalib
TahRayZah may be a billionaire but she always reminded me of the drunk broad sitting at the bar at closing time.
21 posted on 11/12/2004 7:32:07 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Imnotalib

22 posted on 11/12/2004 7:32:23 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Imnotalib

The old lady brought every word of criticism upon herself. She's a conceited, rude and egotistical nutjob. She's not First Lady material. She's not even a lady.


23 posted on 11/12/2004 7:32:29 AM PST by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: Imnotalib
"What the crowd got instead, however, was 45 minutes of cogent, even slightly wonky policy discussion...(On early childhood intervention: “Either we do it like a Marshall Plan or let’s not pretend. If we don’t do this it’s not worth doing very much more. Why save? Why invest? If we’re not doing all we can for them, why bother? Why bother with anything else?”)"

This is her example of a "wonky policy discussion???

24 posted on 11/12/2004 7:33:42 AM PST by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: Imnotalib

Someone is either delusional, or a very, very bad judge of character.


25 posted on 11/12/2004 7:34:10 AM PST by independentmind
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To: Imnotalib
Saucy

26 posted on 11/12/2004 7:34:27 AM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: Jenya
Taa-ree-Zah needs to remain herself. NEVER was she First Lady material. Her husband was never First Lady material either.
27 posted on 11/12/2004 7:34:47 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: Imnotalib

I can't honestly think America HATES Theresa... As a sitcom charachter or news anchor, commentator or other public figure, America would love her. It's just that we don't want her as First Lady... The problem is that her "unbridledness" lends her to be more entertaining but less trustworthy.

Nobody has doubted what she's done with her life and America is certainly not ungrateful for her charity. The fact is that she just doesn't exhibit the stoic, sound and ~ahem~ sober qualities required of a First Lady.


28 posted on 11/12/2004 7:35:16 AM PST by TrojanMan
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To: Imnotalib

THK was just white trash.

Crazy, drugged, drunk, ill-mannered white trash with a whole lotta money and cameras following her around.

She was fun though. Maybe we can have reality TV show of her!


29 posted on 11/12/2004 7:36:16 AM PST by najida (Arafat dead- One down, a whole bunch left to go.)
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To: Imnotalib
Does America really hate women that much?

I think so, yes. Not all of the criticism was partisan, after all

What a CROCK. Whenever a Democrat or Liberal woman is criticized, its a sign that "we hate women". Go ahead though and criticize Condi, apparently she is neither female, nor Black.

In the meantime, us "women haters" LOVE Ms. Thatcher and would gladly (if she otherwise qualified) have her as POTUS.. Sheesh, what a bunch of cr*p...

The new logo here at FR:


30 posted on 11/12/2004 7:38:23 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Imnotalib

"By the end of the campaign, her approval ratings were in the range normally reserved for the defrocked and the deposed."

This is the first I've of any approval rating on Ketchup Mouth-another story spiked by the MSM to protect the Kerry candidacy?


31 posted on 11/12/2004 7:38:56 AM PST by Spok
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To: Imnotalib

First off, please forgive me for posting such a long and winding road of an email, but I was suddenly struck that I had already written extensively about my feelings towards Tuhrayzuh. I'm going to post an email here that I wrote a week or so ago and sent to a CC discussion group I had going with a few relatives, one of which asked for comments. Comments? :)


>> Comments?

I'll make one. I keep hearing the talking heads bringing up how such a high percentage of people who voted for Bush say that they did it for moral reasons, and I hear lots of ruminating on that issue, but I have yet to hear a talking head discuss "morals" as if it could be referring to anything other than homosexual marriage and abortion. While those are two important and very highly visible aspects of what I consider to be a part of my "morality", there are other more subtle things that are flying unnoticed over the talking heads on TV which, particulary as a parent, are important to me as well.

A small example.... When Teresa Hines told that reporter to "shove it" she did so because in her words "you said something I didn't say". After looking at a video tape of that event she was clearly incorrect, she obviously "said it", and yet John Kerry's only take on it was that she speaks her mind and "isn't she great" (paraphrased). I for one don't believe that it's OK to act that way towards another person even if they work for the competition newspaper. That man deserves an apology, Teresa Hines and John Kerry KNOW that he deserves an apology, and yet the very idea of him ever getting one from her is so completely preposterous that it's as if we all consider it to be an inside joke that we don't even question. And believe me, if Laura Bush did the same thing I would be just as hard, or harder, on her! There's no excuse for a pompous attitude from the First Family, and every reason for grace and magnanimity.

In case the whole point of this has not been clear, note that this is not just a grievance at that particular incident. There are multiple incidents in John and Teresa's political wake that would fit nicely into this discussion, and frankly, the "shove it" itself is not so much the issue that I'm bringing forward, but a tool for discussing a deeper and much more important underlying issue about honesty. This is me taking issue with a dishonest and elitist attitude..... where we all know that the very thought of Teresa apologizing for her mistreatment of that man is out of the question, and that even if she did apologize it would be done begrudgingly out of political expediency. Now that the political winds have stopped blowing there is no longer a "need" for her to apologize, and it has become clear that, with her, the "need" to apologize to that man would NOT arise from the classic struggle between right and wrong that all of us "Right Wing Conspirators" go through - or *morality*; rather, it arises from Teresa and John's belief that they can manufacture and maintain an image... a purse from a sow's ear, if you will, and that the very *need* for her to be a moral human being is a derivative of their requirement to maintain that image with other people and not from any need to maintain an image with whatever Deity they subscribe to. Ergo, they are amoral. They, each in turn, are their own Deity. In their universe, they themselves are the highest power, above you and I. My recommendation to the Kerrys is to go and read "Johnathan Livingston Seagull" two or three times in a row. They would be much happier spiritually afterwards.

Let it be known also that the absence of religious beliefs in a person is not necessarily a showstopper for me, because I know people who are atheists that I love and completely respect... who would pass my requirements for friendship and leadership. But those atheist friends of mine don't put on a show of religion as a hypocrite. One might ask how I determine if an athiest is worthy. I lieu of writing a book on the subject, let me just say for now that I know it when I see it, but won't attempt to relate a full account in this forum.

Now the thought of John Kerry and Ted Kennedy asking the pardon of that reporter for *their own* comments about how they supported Teresa in "speaking her mind" is just as implausible as Teresa's apology. And I take issue with THAT attitude of pompous superiority, which is so completely self evident that it has become even possible for the left to sweep it under the table in their own minds, because it need not be looked at to be discerned. Amorality is an overhanging pall upon the Democrat party. A "forest for the trees" kind of thing.

A little secret of mine that even my wife has never been told... *Hi Hon!* :) I take the measure of a man or woman based on what I think it would be like to be stranded with them on a life-raft or a deserted island, where I measure my perception of their willingness to share and cooperate, their skills and creativity in helping our group to be rescued, and weather or not they'd take it upon themselves to try and support the positive outlook of the group even when they themselves are feeling put upon. Are they givers or takers? Are they as good a follower as they are a leader? Are they WILLING to follow as well as lead? What about their loyalty to the group? Is their perception of right and wrong based on a power higher than themselves, or are they themselves the highest authority in their universe? The deserted island analogy to the real world is a particularly good one, I believe. Think of yourself in a large corporation where the boss hooks you up with two other employees that you have never met before, and assigns you a substantial project with a six month deadline. You are sitting in a conference room with those two employees. Are they George and Laura Bush or are they John Kerry and Teresa Hines Kerry?


God Bless and Semper Fidelis,


33 posted on 11/12/2004 7:41:52 AM PST by MarineBrat
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To: Imnotalib
"Perhaps most unforgivably, she is unself-consciously sexy at 66 and not unaware of her power as a woman."

Sexy? Well, certainly not in an objective sense. Perhaps it's all in the eye of the Henneburger.

Power "as a woman"? Certainly, she has the power that riches and connections offer. Ironically, the source of most of her juice was effort of men.
34 posted on 11/12/2004 7:43:17 AM PST by Warlord
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To: Imnotalib

We might be ready for a mouthy first lady...if she were actually an American.


35 posted on 11/12/2004 7:44:32 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: najida

All anyone had to do was watch Ms. T the day her husband threw in the towel...Her anger was written all over her face and there wasn't a smile to be seen. She always was and always will be the center of attention, in her world. Thank goodness the election didn't make that our world also!!


36 posted on 11/12/2004 7:44:35 AM PST by cousair
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To: Imnotalib
Before we get to "fair" reporting would it be too much to ask for accurate reporting? John Kerry's wife's name is "Teresa Heinz" period. There is no "Teresa Heinz Kerry," that was just a fiction put on for the election. Check Johnny's tax returns, "Spouse's full legal name:"
37 posted on 11/12/2004 7:44:51 AM PST by whd23
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To: Imnotalib
TERESA AD
38 posted on 11/12/2004 7:48:24 AM PST by montag813
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To: Imnotalib
"Perhaps most unforgivably, she is unself-consciously sexy at 66 and not unaware of her power as a woman."

No. Most unforgivable is the fact that her utter self-absorbtion came shining through each and every time she spoke.

Few people, if any, were even aware of whatever sexual charms she may have. Her power stems from massive wealth, not her womanhood.

39 posted on 11/12/2004 7:52:16 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Melinda= idiot
MSNBC=waste of time
Miss Ketchup...= two-fisted drunk.


40 posted on 11/12/2004 7:54:26 AM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Paradox
Dear Alfalfa, Pickles looks very good for a 66 year old woman, and yes she is sexy and saucy. However, she's extremely loony, and the public knows it. But cut her some slack. She lost the love of her life, a handsome Republican, and she's stuck with Kerry. I actually feel sorry for her. Pickles can do better.
41 posted on 11/12/2004 7:59:33 AM PST by tornado100
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
For me, a person who has true class is a person who is unfailingly polite and courteous to all individuals, regardless of their perceived status. And, "no", Americans do not hate women, but many Americans, both male and female, do detest rudeness, and, that is the crime of which, I belive Theresa is quite quilty.

Since we are speaking of shoes, I'm sure we all know what would have happened if the shoe had been on the other foot and Laura Bush had made any of the same or similar comments, or behaved in such a rude manner.

42 posted on 11/12/2004 8:01:44 AM PST by Sloopy
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To: Imnotalib

No amount of Viagra would make me horny enough to believe she was sexy!


43 posted on 11/12/2004 8:03:04 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: Izzy Dunne

Precisely. Equating dislike of Mama T to some "hatred of women" exposes the intellectual laziness of the writer.


44 posted on 11/12/2004 8:03:48 AM PST by Roberts
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To: Imnotalib
... his wife is someone who has undeniably devoted her considerable energies and resources to making this world a better place...

Her billion only funds leftist, America-hating, communist organizations.

How, pray tell, does this make the world a better place. No mention of the USA here.

45 posted on 11/12/2004 8:06:37 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: montag813

OMG... that is a GEM!


46 posted on 11/12/2004 8:07:30 AM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Liberalism: The haunting fear that someone somewhere might be able to do something for themselves.)
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To: Imnotalib
We found it odd that she made no attempt to hide the fact that she had a life before John Kerry.

Of course a liberal twit like Melinda would find that odd.

Heinz made no bones about it....she really loved her first husband and the Frankenstein creation she's no wedded to takes the back seat in the limo.

47 posted on 11/12/2004 8:08:16 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Roberts

She is not hated. I do not hate women. She is simply a self-imposed object of derision. She brings it on herself. She oozes snobbery and a sense of priviledge the rest of us do not imput to ourselves. This is not meant as criticism.


48 posted on 11/12/2004 8:11:25 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: Imnotalib
This column is the absolute dumbest post-election column I've read--so far. If Americans don't like Al Sharpton--then they hate African Americans? If they cannot stand listening to Allen Dershowitz--they hate Jews? And if they think that Michael Moore is a detestable crank--they hate all pasty-faced, obese wankers from Michigan?

Americans did not like TeRAYza because she is an out-of-touch, hyper-rich, self-obsessed, room-temperature IQ'd, power whore who approached her brush with American First Ladyship with no humility whatsoever.

I believe Kerry lost the election when she spoke at the Dem Convention in prime time. Not a word about this great country or her husband--just her droning on in that annoying voice with that accent of indeterminant origin about...HERSELF. Teresa--you're not that interesting.

This had nothing to do with "America's hatred of women." Henneberger should buy a frickin' clue.

49 posted on 11/12/2004 8:12:32 AM PST by Pharmboy (My tagline has gone fishin')
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To: Imnotalib

What an airhead this Melinda is.

America doesn't "hate" women. They're expecting them to behave with a measure of decorum and civility and in a rational way, like any other adult.

If you don't like that we found Teresa fell short of this reasonable standard too bad.


50 posted on 11/12/2004 8:14:02 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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