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An open letter to Europe. Hi. Are you nuts?
HERBERT E. MEYER ^ | November 11, 2004 | HERBERT E. MEYER

Posted on 11/12/2004 8:18:37 AM PST by Tolik

Herbert E. Meyer served during the Reagan administration as special assistant to the director of Central Intelligence and vice chairman of the CIA's National Intelligence Council. His new video is The Siege of Western Civilization.

Hi.  Are you nuts?

Forgive me for being so blunt, but your reaction to our reelection of President Bush has been so outrageous that I’m wondering if you have quite literally lost your minds.  One of Britain’s largest newspapers ran a headline asking “How Can 59 Million Americans Be So Dumb?”, and commentators in France all seemed to use the same word – bizarre -- to explain the election’s outcome to their readers.  In Germany the editors of Die Tageszeitung responded to our vote by writing that “Bush belongs at a war tribunal – not in the White House.”  And on a London radio talk show last week one Jeremy Hardy described our President and those of us who voted for him as “stupid, crazy, ignorant, bellicose Christian fundamentalists.”

Of course, you are entitled to whatever views about us that you care to hold.  (And lucky for you we Americans aren’t like so many of the Muslims on your own continent; as the late Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh just discovered, make one nasty crack about them and you’re likely to get six bullets pumped into your head and a knife plunged into your chest.)  But before you write us off as just a bunch of sweaty, hairy-chested, Bible-thumping morons who are more likely to break their fast by dipping a Krispy Kreme into a diet cola than a biscotti into an espresso –  and who inexplicably have won more Nobel prizes than all other countries combined, host 25 or 30 of the world’s finest universities and five or six of the world’s best symphonies, produce wines that win prizes at your own tasting competitions, have built the world’s most vibrant economy, are the world’s only military superpower and, so to speak in our spare time, have landed on the moon and sent our robots to Mars – may I suggest you stop frothing at the mouth long enough to consider just what are these ideas we hold that you find so silly and repugnant?

We believe that church and state should be separate, but that religion should remain at the center of life.  We are a Judeo-Christian culture, which means we consider those ten things on a tablet to be commandments, not suggestions. We believe that individuals are more important than groups, that families are more important than governments, that children should be raised by their parents rather than by the State, and that marriage should take place only between a man and a woman.  We believe that rights must be balanced by responsibilities, that personal freedom is a privilege we must be careful not to abuse, and that the rule of law cannot be set aside when it becomes inconvenient.  We believe in economic liberty, and in the right of purposeful and industrious entrepreneurs to run their businesses – and thus create jobs – with a minimum of government interference.  We recognize that other people see things differently, and we are tolerant of their views.  But we believe that our country is worth defending, and if anyone decides that killing us is an okay thing to do we will go after them with everything we’ve got.

If these beliefs seem strange to you, they shouldn’t.  For these are precisely the beliefs that powered Western Europe – you -- from the Middle Ages into the Renaissance, on to the Enlightenment, and forward into the modern world.  They are the beliefs that made Europe itself the glory of Western civilization and – not coincidentally – ignited the greatest outpouring of art, literature, music and scientific discovery the world has ever known including Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Shakespeare, Bach, Isaac Newton and Descartes.

Europe is Dying

It is your abandonment of these beliefs that has created the gap between Europe and the United States.  You have ceased to be a Judeo-Christian culture, and have become instead a secular culture.  And a secular culture quickly goes from being “un-religious” to anti-religious.  Indeed, your hostility to the basic concepts of Judaism and Christianity has literally been written into your new European Union constitution, despite the Pope’s heroic efforts to the contrary. 

Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high.  Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today.  Europe is literally dying.  And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households. 

Your economy is stagnant because your government regulators make it just about impossible for your entrepreneurs to succeed – except by fleeing to the United States, where we welcome them and celebrate their success.  

And your armed forces are a joke.  With the notable exception of Great Britain, you no longer have the military strength to defend yourselves.  Alas, you no longer have the will to defend yourselves.

What worries me even more than all this is your willful blindness.   You refuse to see that it is you, not we Americans, who have abandoned Western Civilization.  It’s worrisome because, to tell you the truth, we need each other.  Western Civilization today is under siege, from radical Islam on the outside and from our own selfish hedonism within.  It’s going to take all of our effort, our talent, our creativity and, above all, our will to pull through.  So take a good, hard look at yourselves and see what your own future will be if you don’t change course.  And please, stop sneering at America long enough to understand it.  After all, Western Civilization was your gift to us, and you ought to be proud of what we Americans have made of it.


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1 posted on 11/12/2004 8:18:37 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


Nailed It!

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2 posted on 11/12/2004 8:20:27 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

*** YES ***

Aren't the results of SOCIALISM impressive????


3 posted on 11/12/2004 8:20:28 AM PST by EagleUSA (W)
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To: Tolik
But before you write us off as just a bunch of sweaty, hairy-chested, Bible-thumping morons who are more likely to break their fast by dipping a Krispy Kreme into a diet cola ...

I KNEW someone was watching me....!!

4 posted on 11/12/2004 8:22:08 AM PST by wizardoz (straight, sedentary, and average)
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To: Tolik

Excellent Post, THANKS!


5 posted on 11/12/2004 8:22:32 AM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: Tolik

Well said! Bookmarking those additional articles for perusal.


6 posted on 11/12/2004 8:24:27 AM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: Tolik

BUMP


7 posted on 11/12/2004 8:24:31 AM PST by NetSurfer (All your provisional ballots are belong to us.)
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To: Tolik

bmp


8 posted on 11/12/2004 8:26:20 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Tolik

Wow. Powerful and right on!


9 posted on 11/12/2004 8:26:24 AM PST by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Tolik

Yes, Europe is nuts. But about 20% are considered true conservatives, with strong Judean-Christian morals and support for the US.
Unfortunately we 20% can never deteremine the government, so usually the socialists win.
Plus: Most Media, TV and Radio are run by socialists.


10 posted on 11/12/2004 8:27:07 AM PST by seppel
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To: Tolik; rmlew
Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households.

Seventy million is a devastating number. I'd like to see a source for that.

11 posted on 11/12/2004 8:27:57 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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To: Tolik

Great find! Thanks for posting!!!


12 posted on 11/12/2004 8:28:11 AM PST by cweese
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To: Tolik

Wow, but that was a good one...


13 posted on 11/12/2004 8:29:44 AM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Tolik

This should be posted in every publication across Europe. It won't, but it should.


14 posted on 11/12/2004 8:30:20 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Tolik

ping


15 posted on 11/12/2004 8:31:34 AM PST by Wonderama ("America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy"....John Updike)
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To: Paleo Conservative

go to the UN statistics. Europe has become too lazy to breed.
Even Russia is expected to decline from their present 125 million to 75 million by 2050


16 posted on 11/12/2004 8:32:54 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: Tolik

EXCELLENT!!!!!


17 posted on 11/12/2004 8:33:40 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Tolik

Please add me to your "nailed it" list. Thanks


18 posted on 11/12/2004 8:34:13 AM PST by Slicksadick (He's French. His hairdresser also grooms poodles. He's a rich woman's pet. That cover's it)
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To: Tolik
You have ceased to be a Judeo-Christian culture, and have become instead a secular culture. And a secular culture quickly goes from being “un-religious” to anti-religious

There is no such thing as a "secular culture", at least not one that exists for any extended period of time (greater than two generations).

The alternative to Christendom is not the EU-it is Islam.

One or the other. The Europeans have chosen suicide, the survivors will be Moslems or dhimmi.

19 posted on 11/12/2004 8:37:06 AM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: Slicksadick

Sure thing. Done


20 posted on 11/12/2004 8:38:18 AM PST by Tolik
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To: wizardoz

Great post and well said!!! Unfortunatly, the majority of Europeans who read this are so conceited they will sneer at this piece too, like they sneer at America in general. Good thing they gave us the gift of Western civilization, someone is going to have to bail thier sorry butts out...


21 posted on 11/12/2004 8:38:28 AM PST by quant5
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To: Tolik

This is absolutely marvelous!


22 posted on 11/12/2004 8:40:42 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: seppel

***" But about 20% are considered true conservatives, with strong Judean-Christian morals and support for the US."***


So how do we lend our support/encoragement to that 20%?
Do they have websites, forums, etc...


23 posted on 11/12/2004 8:43:26 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: Tolik
There is a grievous (and clearly deliberate) omission in this article:

Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today...

...but for the Muslims that are replacing them from within, who, someday, will have their way with your decadent culture.

After a long, slow, decline will come the coup de gras. It won't be pretty. I give it about twenty years.

24 posted on 11/12/2004 8:44:37 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Tolik
Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today. Europe is literally dying. And of the children you do manage to produce, all too few will be raised in stable, two-parent households.

Of course, your ever-increasing Muslim population are breeding at a much higher rate, and by the middle of the century will probably have grown to a large enough population that the cradle of western civilization and the renaissance will be living under a dark-ages system of Sharia law.

25 posted on 11/12/2004 8:45:05 AM PST by kevkrom (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too.)
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To: Tolik
Excellent post.

Your rate of marriage is at an all-time low, and the number of abortions in Europe is at an all-time high. Indeed, your birth rates are so far below replacement levels that in 30 years or so there will be 70 million fewer Europeans alive than are alive today.

Not to worry. Muslim immigrants are more than happy to make up the difference.

27 posted on 11/12/2004 8:50:10 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Tolik

bump to myself


28 posted on 11/12/2004 8:50:17 AM PST by Smogger
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
29 posted on 11/12/2004 8:51:52 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Tolik

Bump for later.

Can't wait...


30 posted on 11/12/2004 8:53:18 AM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: seppel

I wish you 20% would just COME HERE! And we'll send an equivalent number of lefties there. Population swap. Then... well... we'll just let the chips fall where they may. I think we all know how it would turn out.


31 posted on 11/12/2004 8:53:42 AM PST by wizardoz (straight, sedentary, and average)
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To: Tolik

I love that graphic!


32 posted on 11/12/2004 8:54:32 AM PST by RockinRight (I think, therefore I am a conservative.)
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To: seppel

What country are you in?

Glad to see at least some in Europe still have some brains!


33 posted on 11/12/2004 8:55:26 AM PST by RockinRight (I think, therefore I am a conservative.)
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To: wizardoz

those euros better start a humpin
they'll need youngins to pay for all that wonderfull socialist programs.

on the same note with whites becoming the minority in 2050 here in america...you too :)


34 posted on 11/12/2004 9:01:28 AM PST by Casaubon (huh??)
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To: Paleo Conservative; americanbychoice2
2002 United Nations World Population Prospects

http://www.gov.on.ca/FIN/english/demographics/dtr0303e.htm

A bar chart showing continental populations for 2003 and 2050.  The continents listed are North America, Europe, Latin America and the Caribbean, Asia, Africa and Oceania.
 

35 posted on 11/12/2004 9:02:32 AM PST by Tolik
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To: RockinRight

Found on the Internet and adopted it. Nobody complained yet.

:^)


36 posted on 11/12/2004 9:04:08 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Excellent.


37 posted on 11/12/2004 9:07:23 AM PST by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Tolik

Herb Meyer nails it, bigtime! i've bookmarked the article links, and will some some time there and at his website. Good on ya, Herb!


38 posted on 11/12/2004 9:08:57 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Tolik

bttt


39 posted on 11/12/2004 9:21:31 AM PST by ShowMeMom (On to 06)
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To: Tolik

Thanks, I do believe Russia is included in the "European numbers. That decline even anticipates the incredible growth of Muslim families there. It is still declining. Poor working environments, high taxes, strict Government regulations will also result in a massive "Brain drain".
Their Social/Health services are already broke and declining further. I just don't see a recovery. Let's face it, other than procreation, Muslims on average, are not the most productive people.


40 posted on 11/12/2004 9:27:20 AM PST by americanbychoice2
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To: Tolik

Wonderful post.

They lay down for they have no higher cause-no calling beyond them. In the USA we have a hope in tomorrow and God to embrace. We have a life we can pass down with hope and prayer. I have been to Europe and met some wonderful people there. I pray Europe awakens before it is too late.


41 posted on 11/12/2004 9:27:48 AM PST by American Vet Repairman (The enemy from whithin is far more deadly.)
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To: Tolik

Bumping To The Top


42 posted on 11/12/2004 9:31:17 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Casaubon

Could your name possibly be a Middlemarch reference??


43 posted on 11/12/2004 9:50:07 AM PST by wizardoz (straight, sedentary, and average)
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To: Tolik

What a spot on article, take heed Europe!


44 posted on 11/12/2004 10:05:43 AM PST by MontanaBeth (NEVER FORGET)
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To: Tolik; cowboy_code

ping....

FABULOUS article.


45 posted on 11/12/2004 10:07:12 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: Tolik

Is nihilism a product of the culture, or is the culture a product of nihilism?


46 posted on 11/12/2004 10:07:54 AM PST by IStillBelieve (G.W. Bush '04: Biggest popular-vote victory in history, and first popular-vote majority in 16 years!)
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To: Tolik; All

47 posted on 11/12/2004 10:09:23 AM PST by AllTheRage (Put yer dukes up)
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To: SolutionsOnly

Web tech such as FreeRepublic is not popular here. But they may be worth starting. Population is too apolitical.
I hope the friction with islam will wake young people up. The surge in Rightwing parties indicates that people are fed up. Rightwing parties are not the answer, but it is an indicator.


48 posted on 11/12/2004 10:23:05 AM PST by seppel
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To: LogicalMs

THanks for encouragement.


49 posted on 11/12/2004 10:24:04 AM PST by seppel
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To: wizardoz

Good point. In fact many have gone to the US. Unfortunately though a few I know were libs.
But I'm seriously considering.


50 posted on 11/12/2004 10:24:58 AM PST by seppel
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