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MIAMI-DADE POLICE TANSERED TRUANT GIRL, 12
Miami Herald ^ | 11/13/2004 | Susannah A. Nesmith

Posted on 11/13/2004 7:40:53 AM PST by JesseHousman

Miami-Dade police said an officer should not have used a stun gun to stop a 12-year-old girl who was skipping school.

A Miami-Dade police officer used a Taser to stop an unarmed, 12-year-old girl who was running away from him after she was caught skipping school, police acknowledged Friday night.

The incident happened Nov. 5, just over two weeks after other Miami-Dade officers used a stun gun to restrain a first-grader. In that case, police said the 6-year-old boy was holding a shard of glass and threatening to cut himself. Police Director Bobby Parker defended the decision to shock the boy because he could have seriously hurt himself.

But Parker said Friday that he could not defend the decision to shock the fleeing 12-year-old, who was apparently drunk.

''Under the circumstances, we thought that he should not have used the Taser,'' Parker said referring to the officer. ``It's likely that discipline will be forthcoming.''

According to the incident report:

Officer William Nelson responded to an anonymous complaint that some kids were swimming in a West Kendall pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars about 11 a.m.

Nelson said he noticed the girl was intoxicated and told her to get dressed so he could take her back to school.

''While walking [the girl] to the police car, [she] took off running through the parking lot,'' Nelson wrote in his report.

Nelson, 38, a 15-year veteran, said he chased her and yelled several times for her to stop. Nelson said he pulled out the Taser and fired when the girl began to run into traffic.

The electric probes hit the girl in the neck and lower back, immobilizing her with 50,000 volts.

Nelson said he fired ''for my safety along with [the girl's] safety.'' He could not be reached for comment.

Paramedics treated the girl, who went home with her mother.

Parker said department policy permits officers to use the Taser to apprehend someone, but he said he expected his officers to use better judgment -- especially when police had no plans to arrest someone playing hooky.

''If you use it to apprehend an adult, it would be an arrest kind of situation,'' said Parker, adding that the timing of the latest incident couldn't be any worse.

His department is already under fire for using a Taser to subdue the 6-year-old last month. That zapping has made national headlines and prompted calls from child advocates that Miami-Dade review its Taser use.

Parker said Friday night that his department will review its Taser policy. ''That doesn't mean that we're going to change it,'' he said.

County Commissioner Joe Martinez, a former Miami-Dade officer, said the policy needs to be tightened.

''When you have a 6-year-old who is on medication and very disturbed, maybe some of that crisis intervention training would be very handy,'' he said, referring to a program that teaches officers how to deal with the mentally ill. ``Now, when I learn that a 12-year-old girl was running away, truant, and was also Tasered, I think it's time we instruct the county manager to look at that policy.''

Asked if his officers had shocked any other kids, Parker said: ``I asked the same question, are there more of these out there that I'm not aware of? To my knowledge this is the only one.''


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: badcops; delinquency; donutwatch; tansered; truant
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...some kids were swimming in a West Kendall pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars about 11 a.m....

If the little delinquents knew that Kerry had lost they wouldn't be celebrating.

Wonder what punishment their "fathers" meted out?

1 posted on 11/13/2004 7:40:53 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman; TheBigB; Constitution Day; Petronski; dead
MIAMI-DADE POLICE TANSERED TRUANT GIRL, 12

I'm stuned.

2 posted on 11/13/2004 7:43:59 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: JesseHousman
.....kids were swimming in a West Kendall pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars.

What a buzz kill!

3 posted on 11/13/2004 7:44:55 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: JesseHousman
Screw 'Em. If she hadn't been a drunk truant, none of this would've happened. It's her own fault. Her, ahem, "mother" also shares in the responsibility.
The cop did everyone a public service. Perhaps, this moron will think about being tased before she breaks the law again.
4 posted on 11/13/2004 7:46:27 AM PST by Sociopathocracy
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To: martin_fierro
I bet she was stuned! Woudda used a beeber myself...
5 posted on 11/13/2004 7:46:43 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade.)
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To: JesseHousman

They tansered her beeber? Now, that is just SICK.


6 posted on 11/13/2004 7:47:17 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: JesseHousman
Do they have one of these yet?
7 posted on 11/13/2004 7:47:37 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: JesseHousman
Another picture of a Miami truant..


8 posted on 11/13/2004 7:48:12 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: JesseHousman

Nelson said he noticed the girl was intoxicated and told her to get dressed so he could take her back to school."

WHAT!


9 posted on 11/13/2004 7:48:18 AM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: JesseHousman

Drinking alcohol and smoking cigars?!!!

I can't help it-that image has me smiling!


10 posted on 11/13/2004 7:50:04 AM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: Delta 21

That'll really zap the little delinquents.


11 posted on 11/13/2004 7:50:30 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Sociopathocracy

Agree!


12 posted on 11/13/2004 7:51:24 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Delta 21

They're putting them in all the cop cars in Hollywood to quell the entertainment uprising...


13 posted on 11/13/2004 7:52:24 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......it's beginning now...)
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To: All
Sorry about that.

Tansered=Tasered.

Even I have been known to screw up.

14 posted on 11/13/2004 7:52:39 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

Not a big deal. I've been shocked by 10-20KV DC arm to arm. Your body gets used to it once it knows it. Heck, I stick my thumb in light sockets to see if they work. All you feel is a buzz at the end of your thumb. A Kansas farmer showed me that trick!


15 posted on 11/13/2004 7:53:30 AM PST by BobS
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To: Delta 21

They were probably expensive Havana cigars. I don't know where they got them. It's unusual for kids like this to have fathers.


16 posted on 11/13/2004 7:53:37 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: All

"Heck, I stick my thumb in light sockets to see if they work. All you feel is a buzz at the end of your thumb. A Kansas farmer showed me that trick!"

DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME FOLKS!


17 posted on 11/13/2004 7:58:07 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: martin_fierro; JesseHousman
I'm stuned.

Me too. So stuned that I lost my beeber.

5.56mm

18 posted on 11/13/2004 8:00:14 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: JesseHousman


Here, you want some of this little girl!
19 posted on 11/13/2004 8:03:06 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......or something like it....)
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To: JesseHousman

50,000 volts on a 6 year old and again on a 12 year old. And these guys have guns as well.


20 posted on 11/13/2004 8:03:50 AM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: gitmo
It's much better than killing them.

Unfortunately, no number of brushes with the law will straighten these little losers out. They roam the streets and their mothers don't give a damn. Unfortunately, they have no fathers because they've been replaced by a welfare check and food stamps.

21 posted on 11/13/2004 8:07:22 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: martin_fierro

One less Belle tanser,
One less kid to fry...


22 posted on 11/13/2004 8:16:06 AM PST by mikrofon (Take the 5th Dimension)
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To: JesseHousman
Even I have been known to screw up.

It happens to us all, even me! But don't worry, your compassionate fellow Freepers will be here to help.:)

23 posted on 11/13/2004 8:17:55 AM PST by xJones
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To: Sociopathocracy
Perhaps, this moron will think about being tased before she breaks the law again

Yeah..Right...Should have used a 45 magnum on the kid..And she was chewing gum too....the horror...and running away..the brat...just a dangerous psychopathic 12 year old...too bad she didn't have a weak heart. ;(

25 posted on 11/13/2004 8:29:16 AM PST by squirt-gun
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To: JesseHousman

Maybe he should have just used his Glock.
Dang good thing she wasnt a pet dog in Tennessee.

</sarcam


26 posted on 11/13/2004 8:35:52 AM PST by 76834
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To: OwnershipSociety
Drinking alcohol and smoking cigars?!!!

Been known to do the same thing myself...
27 posted on 11/13/2004 8:37:08 AM PST by 76834
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To: 76834

But how about your 12 year old sister while playing hooky? Or nooky.


28 posted on 11/13/2004 8:41:31 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

If the cop had chased her down and grabbed her, we'd have a trial lawyer out here the next day, claiming that the cop grabbed her here, there, or someplace, and it was icky, and they're suing the city for a million bucks. The cops can't win for losing.


29 posted on 11/13/2004 8:42:35 AM PST by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.swiftvetsandpows.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: squirt-gun
If he hadn't tansered her, would is the worst case potential? What would the reaction have been?

"Intoxicated child killed when police chase her into traffic" may have been the alternative headline.

I don't want to second guess a 15 year veteran. I'd hate to see him become a political football for using what may have been excellent judgement.
30 posted on 11/13/2004 8:43:15 AM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: JesseHousman

EVERYONE REMAIN CLAM!


31 posted on 11/13/2004 8:43:48 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (DECISION 2004: IT'S THE SPITBALLS, STUPID)
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To: squirt-gun
You must admit, Squirt, she is a delinquent and will probably remain a delinquent the rest of her life. You never know. It just might have taught her a lesson if the policeman weren't being chastised for stopping her.

Now her lousy friends are laughting at authority...again!

32 posted on 11/13/2004 8:44:05 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman
But how about your 12 year old sister while playing hooky? Or nooky.

Would never happen, first of all I dont have any sisters and was raisied in the 50's.
If I had ever tried anything like this daddy would have wore my a$$ off with a razor strop.
33 posted on 11/13/2004 8:44:09 AM PST by 76834
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To: xJones
May Allah smile on you.

Just think. Yassar has finally been declared dead and didn't get a chance to get blown up so he'll collect his 72 virgins.

He does, however, get a consolation prize: 72 tatooed lesbians from Arkansas.

34 posted on 11/13/2004 8:46:19 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: 76834
I'm just using that as an example of course.

I have several sisters and none would have dreamed of skipping school, getting drunk and smoking cigars.

35 posted on 11/13/2004 8:48:13 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Libertarian4Bush

Of course. The Libertarians are here.


36 posted on 11/13/2004 8:48:39 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Nick Danger

And the cops have been made to look like boobs which causes little rats like these to continue their ways until they do something horrible to themselves or others.


37 posted on 11/13/2004 8:49:55 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman

Exactly the point.

The main ones to blame here are the "parents"
If they had raised their kids properly and instilled dicipline this would never have happened.


38 posted on 11/13/2004 8:51:38 AM PST by 76834
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To: squirt-gun
Perhaps, this moron will think about being tased before she breaks the law again

Yeah..Right...Should have used a 45 magnum on the kid..And she was chewing gum too....the horror...and running away..the brat...just a dangerous psychopathic 12 year old...too bad she didn't have a weak heart. ;(

Clearly, the Miami police are experienced commandos. Perhaps this officer was lured away from Janet Reno's Justice Department.


39 posted on 11/13/2004 8:52:16 AM PST by Racehorse
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To: JesseHousman

These Miami cops need to switch to decaff.


40 posted on 11/13/2004 8:57:15 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: JesseHousman

KEEP YER CLAMPOSURE!


41 posted on 11/13/2004 8:58:37 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (DECISION 2004: IT'S THE SPITBALLS, STUPID)
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To: JesseHousman
Tansered=Tasered.

The police tansered before they tasered.

42 posted on 11/13/2004 8:58:46 AM PST by paws_and_whiskers
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To: JesseHousman
Wonder what punishment their "fathers" meted out?


None, probably, because they don't want to be thrown in jail by the mothers.
43 posted on 11/13/2004 8:59:25 AM PST by Garattler (We warn before we strike---Sometimes.)
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To: JesseHousman

The Chair! The Chair! Give her the chair!
44 posted on 11/13/2004 9:02:04 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: squirt-gun; Sociopathocracy
Yeah..Right...Should have used a 45 magnum on the kid..And she was chewing gum too....the horror...and running away..the brat...just a dangerous psychopathic 12 year old...too bad she didn't have a weak heart. ;(

Agreed. Only, to be consistent with a truly free and humane society, the cop should have called for backup so they all could have taken turns jumping up and down on her head before beheading her and chopping her up into little pieces. After all, truancy by a twelve year old is a very serious crime.

45 posted on 11/13/2004 9:02:29 AM PST by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: 76834

It like a bad episode of the little rascals gone wrong.


46 posted on 11/13/2004 9:03:53 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I got political capital and I intend to spend it!)
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To: JesseHousman

in my neighborhood the deputies are doped up on steroids and quite high strung. but those esteemed public servants in miami make these guys (and those umm women, too) look like choirboys.


47 posted on 11/13/2004 9:06:06 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Racehorse
Perhaps this officer was lured away from Janet Reno's Justice Department.

By Golly I think your on the right track. After all, Janet solved the Waco problem permanetly by not worrying about collateral damage.

Have a nice day.

48 posted on 11/13/2004 9:12:34 AM PST by squirt-gun
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To: JesseHousman
Nelson said he fired ''for my safety along with [the girl's] safety.'' He could not be reached for comment. [ . . . ] ( Police Director Bobby) Parker said Friday night that his department will review its Taser policy. ''That doesn't mean that we're going to change it,'' he said.

I truly support the police, but this is the kind of thing that makes them look bad . . . because, it is bad. The director should have said something like, "Yeah, we're going to review our policy and we're going to change it to make damn sure every officer know when and how to exercise proper judgement. We're done zapping little kids!"

49 posted on 11/13/2004 9:14:14 AM PST by Racehorse
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I would like to know something.

What was her blood alcohol level?
Where did she get the alcohol and are they under arrest?
Cigars, was there pot in the cigars? Let's not be naive!
Who's house pool was it? Are they being questioned?
Why wasn't she cuffed and arrested for underage drinking?
Why wasn't she cuffed and arrested for possession?
Was she the only one drinking there, who else, over 21?
What was the first thing the mother did, smack her a$$ or call a lawyer?

Nope, it was ALL the cops fault. He stopped her. He cut into her "social" thing. Now how is she going to get knocked up and on welfare by age 13? These damn cops. They always are keeping our teens from having babies.


/rant
50 posted on 11/13/2004 9:16:55 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote (Moore, DumbandWhite 9.11)
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