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"The city stole my car"
Chicago Sun-Times ^
| November 10, 2004
| Tim Novak and Steve Warmbir
Posted on 11/13/2004 9:35:52 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
"The owner of the vehicle is still liable for all fines and fees even if the city disposes of the vehicle," Sanchez said. They've deprived me of property far in excess of the amount owed. They've more than been paid-- if they sell the item for a pittance, then that's their own idiocy.
Chicago-- it's technically America.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:22:20 AM PST
by
atomicpossum
(I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
Disgusting scumbags!!! As a new resident to Chicago, I am appalled at the Korrupt Kingdom of Mayor Daley. How much longer will these antics be tolerated? This is organized crime .. a legal syndicate .. pure and simple.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:24:03 AM PST
by
STARWISE
(America has spoken- what part of Bush won AGAIN don't they get? Pray for the troops)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
WHAT!?!?!? I wonder if Chicago has heard of the "takings clause". Althought the takings clause doesn't apply to the state directory it does de facto apply to the state by other means. It applies to the states through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, First English, 482 U.S. at 310 n.4; see also 2 Ronald D. Rotunda & John E. Nowak, Treatise on Constitutional Law: Substance and Procedure 523 (3d ed. 1999).
To: flashbunny; Logical me
The question you need to ask is "who is buying $13,000 cars for $125???"
Government employees? Friends and family of government employees?
If it was anywhere but chicago, there would be an investigation into this.
If that is what is going on, it is a VERY large case for fraud, and not just fraud to the original car owners, but tax fraud as well in that they are paying less than 5% of the true value of cars and thus paying less than 5% in taxes on the cars.
To: MississippiMasterpiece
they are doing something like this in providence, RI
but instead with houses...
some old person is a little late on a bill, or sometimes never gets the bill. their house is auctioned off (to the same real estate co. that gets it all the time.) and the real estate company sells it off for a lot of profit.
they also had the tow trucking problem years ago as well, but that guy and the city mayor went to jail.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:28:18 AM PST
by
atari
To: STARWISE
This is organized crime .. a legal syndicate .. pure and simple. Capone is long dead, but his spirit lives on.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:28:20 AM PST
by
atomicpossum
(I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
The same type of thing goes on all over the country. Cities desperate for funds have set up all kinds of scams to rip off the public, many of them having to do with 'enforcement' of stupid parking laws. To protect and serve. What a joke. Public officials and employees long ago forgot who they work for and who pays them and the citizens have let them get away with it.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:33:57 AM PST
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
This is the level of ethics found in America's blue counties.
They harbor more than one species of rat.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:37:08 AM PST
by
HighWheeler
("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
To: flashbunny
If it was anywhere but chicago, there would be an investigation into this.There wouldn't be any investigation in Russia, or any of Latin America, or....
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:39:30 AM PST
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: Logical me
"....get a group together to sponsor a ballot measure on the next election that would transfer the amount owed to the person that bought the car from the impound yard."
A terrible accident would happen to all these ballat signature collecting people; it would be tragic I tell ya, tragic.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:42:34 AM PST
by
HighWheeler
("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
Corruption in Chicago...who'd a thunk it?
If you visit Los Angeles, don't bring your own car.
Trying to decipher the plethora of signs concerning where and when you can
park is sufficient to overwhelm a PhD in hieroglyphics.
Like lots of DemocRAT rules of governance, it's a system guaranteed to
work for the city machine and screw anyone wishing that's really trying
to get ahead or promote the competition (free enterprise) to the
political ruling class.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:44:00 AM PST
by
VOA
To: atomicpossum
"The owner of the vehicle is still liable for all fines and fees even if the city disposes of the vehicle," Sanchez said. They've deprived me of property far in excess of the amount owed. They've more than been paid-- if they sell the item for a pittance, then that's their own idiocy.
Another article I saw on this subject mentioned a guy whose stolen car was recovered while he was on vacation. He returned a few days before it was sold for scrap, but was unable to scrape up the cash quickly enough to pay the storage fees. Even though the city sold his car for scrap, they've still been billing him for the storage fees.
What does insurance do in a case like that? My personal wish would be that the insurance company would sue the city, since if they paid a theft claim it would be their car. But unfortunately I suspect the crooks running the system know how to protect themselves.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:44:42 AM PST
by
supercat
(If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
To: paul51
Cities desperate for funds have set up all kinds of scams to rip off the public, many of them having to do with 'enforcement' of stupid parking laws. But the irony is that the city isn't getting much of anything for these vehicles--at least not "officially". Indeed, in a sane world taxpayers ought to be able to file a lawsuit on the basis that the city is acting against people in a manner which diminishes revenues (if someone owes $500 of parking tickets on a car worth $5,000 and the city sells the car for $250, the city will sacrifice $250 by stealing the person's car).
Of course, it may be that city officials get an undocumented 'cut' of the cars' resale value, but that wouldn't help the city's budget any.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:49:32 AM PST
by
supercat
(If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
Rev. Calvin Bridges of the Chicago Praise Ministries:
"There's spiritual wickedness in high places."
Allow me to modify your statement there, Rev, "There's spiritual wickedness in blue counties."
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:49:33 AM PST
by
HighWheeler
("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
To: MississippiMasterpiece
This ticketing scam was one of many reasons I was thrilled to leave the windy city after 8 years. Don't get me wrong Chicago has some great features: Museums, Lincoln Park Zoo, Don Wade in the morning.
Once my car was in the garage and I needed to rent one for the day. Because I forgot to place a temp parking permit on the rental I get a ticket for $115. I was steamed. The Alderman was all set to help me 'FIX' it until he discovered we were getting ready to move out of state.
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:50:49 AM PST
by
proudpapa
(of three.)
To: atomicpossum
Just my thoughts, exactly. The city evidently hasn't changed much since the Capone days. I guess it's the Daly days now. That story of absurd corruptness is too, too much. Is that what they call 'mercantilism'?
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posted on
11/13/2004 10:56:48 AM PST
by
izzatzo
To: MississippiMasterpiece
And yet, they keep re-electing the bastards.
To: MississippiMasterpiece
To: TexasCajun
Where's Jesse? I'll answer my own question.
He's busy running the Jackson Budweiser Distributorship he "Stole" from Budweiser!
To: supercat
Of course, it may be that city officials get an undocumented 'cut' of the cars' resale value, but that wouldn't help the city's budget anyNo doubt about what is going on here. The public 'servants' couldn't care less about the city budget. I'm sure the owner of the towing service and some of his contacts at the city are living large.
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posted on
11/13/2004 11:17:56 AM PST
by
paul51
(11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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