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ACLU: Hijack Prevention Measures Are Unconstitutional
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/13/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/13/2004 10:13:38 AM PST by kattracks

Not everyone is happy that tighter airport security has managed to prevent a rerun of the 9/11 attacks.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is suing Boston's Logan Airport, the very facility used by Osama bin Laden's suicide hijackers, claiming that its security measures led to the illegal detainment of one of its officials. In a press release issued last week, the left-wing group says that Logan's behavior pattern recognition program "effectively condones and encourages" racial and ethnic profiling and is therefore unconstitutional.

The lawsuit claims that King Downing, the ACLU's national coordinator for racial profiling, alleges that he was harassed by state police last year while he was on his way to attend a meeting on racial profiling.

Downing says he was making a telephone call when airport officials stopped him and "demanded that he produce some identification,” according to an ACLU press release.

Downing declined to give his information and was arrested on the spot. He was released a short time later, however, after producing identification along with his travel documents. No charges were filed.

"This program is another unfortunate example of the extent to which we are being asked to surrender basic freedoms in the name of security," said John Reinstein, the Massachusetts Legal Director of the ACLU. "This allows the police to stop anyone, any time, for any reason."

The Massachusetts Port Authority strongly denies the racial profiling charge, arguing that its program protects civil rights and that there are no racial factors in behavior pattern recognition.

Joseph Taranto contributed to this report.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; airlinesecurity; bos; lawsuit; losers; privacy
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1 posted on 11/13/2004 10:13:38 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

The only real hijack prevention measure is National Air Travel Concealed Carry.


2 posted on 11/13/2004 10:16:02 AM PST by B Knotts (Karl Rove: genius. Period.)
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To: kattracks
The lawsuit claims that King Downing, the ACLU's national coordinator for racial profiling, alleges that he was harassed by state police last year while he was on his way to attend a meeting on racial profiling.

Gee, how coincidental.

3 posted on 11/13/2004 10:16:33 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: kattracks

Are these people ever on the correct side? I'm convinced they're a crazed band of renegade lawyers.


4 posted on 11/13/2004 10:17:43 AM PST by ward_of_the_state
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To: kattracks
This is unreal. At the airport that launched the bombs of all places. Jeez. Maybe we all should sue the ACLU for aiding and abetting terrorism in the time of war.
5 posted on 11/13/2004 10:18:55 AM PST by leadpencil1 (GW+4 HA HA HA)
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To: ward_of_the_state

They are exactly that! The American UNcivil and Nonexistant Liberties Union.


6 posted on 11/13/2004 10:21:10 AM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: kattracks
""effectively condones and encourages" racial and ethnic profiling and is therefore unconstitutional."

Evidently, I missed that clause in the Constitution that says "thou shalt no profile."

7 posted on 11/13/2004 10:22:10 AM PST by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: kattracks

Boo frickity hoo, ACLU. Too bad we don't have the same civil rights afforded to the citizens of Islamic countries...


8 posted on 11/13/2004 10:23:34 AM PST by Pharmboy (My tagline has gone fishin')
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To: leadpencil1

John Kerry was also alerted, PERSONALY of security concerns by Logan airport officials months before the 911 attacks, (as the Senator from that area) He ignored them completely, did nothing. A member of the Intellegence Commission no less!


9 posted on 11/13/2004 10:23:39 AM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: gidget7

It's either the beauty or the downfall of America that groups like these can just do their thing with total disregard for the implications or ramifications of how the country will be affected by their actions. </headshaking off>.


10 posted on 11/13/2004 10:23:52 AM PST by ward_of_the_state
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To: leadpencil1
"Maybe we all should sue the ACLU for aiding and abetting terrorism in the time of war."

Works for me.

11 posted on 11/13/2004 10:24:25 AM PST by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: B Knotts

This ass---e has to identify himself anyway to get on a plane. What's the problem?


12 posted on 11/13/2004 10:24:40 AM PST by Big Digger (If you can keep your head when others are losing theirs, you must be a Republican)
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To: ward_of_the_state

They always try to bend being on the correct side to further some mischief, but its hard to be on the wrong side versus the highly competent TSA.


13 posted on 11/13/2004 10:25:57 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Big Digger

He is the ACLU LOL

There is no problem, but they invent intimidation, where none exists. Hmmmm Sounds familiar, somehow


14 posted on 11/13/2004 10:26:31 AM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: kattracks

Since the election has ended the ACLU has been grabbing a lot of headlines.

I appears the have started getting a lot of funding.


15 posted on 11/13/2004 10:27:12 AM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Big Digger

The question you should be asking is "Why?"

It didn'y used to be that way.

IDs didn't stop 9/11.

People give their lives for freedom.

I'd give you a buck for Freedom Lite(tm) - if I'd still have enough pocket money for a beer left.


16 posted on 11/13/2004 10:28:48 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: kattracks
In case anyone was wondering . . .


17 posted on 11/13/2004 10:29:51 AM PST by An.American.Expatriate ((This space for let))
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To: eno_

Yah, isn't that just great? The libs know they can't get this crazy stuff done the "honest and above board" way by getting the will of the people, so they have to resort to legislation from the judicial branch. Grrrr....


19 posted on 11/13/2004 10:32:29 AM PST by ward_of_the_state
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To: kattracks

Since the IRS investigated NAACP, why not the ACLU.


20 posted on 11/13/2004 10:41:41 AM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: John Thornton
..."denies the racial profiling charge..."

I did a Google search. This case is about "behavioral profiling" not racial... I also researched a little about the "victim". He is appears to be a "Marxist-Leninist Torte Reformer"... in other words a classic "Cop- Baiter".

21 posted on 11/13/2004 10:44:06 AM PST by lawdog
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To: kattracks

The ACLU and its cronies should be tried for sedition.


22 posted on 11/13/2004 10:52:33 AM PST by WhosJohnGalt
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To: kattracks
"King Downing"

What a name, what an ego, what a DORK!

23 posted on 11/13/2004 10:53:20 AM PST by NoClones
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To: WhosJohnGalt

New Profiling should place all ACLU members in custody.


24 posted on 11/13/2004 10:54:41 AM PST by G Larry (Time to update my "Support John Thune!" tagline. Thanks to all who did!)
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To: kattracks
Airport security could be totally achieved in two steps.

Require passengers to either and or
1. Eat a piece of bacon before boarding
2. Tear a page out of the Queeran and wipe their backside.

This would prevent any further Mooslime hijackers from boarding. It would also mean the civil liberties(ie the right to live and breathe) of AMERICANS would not be violated for the sake of the aclu!

Shut down the Alphabet Channels (ABJazerra & Her Sister Stations)!
Vote with your Remote!

But, I Have A Plan
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25 posted on 11/13/2004 10:58:55 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: kattracks
Phooey!

It's the

That's UNCONSTITUTIONAL!


26 posted on 11/13/2004 11:04:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: kattracks

So the high school dropouts in the airport gestapo managed to arrest one of Americas biggest terrorists. This is news. I guess even a blind sow finds an acorn once in a while.


27 posted on 11/13/2004 11:13:50 AM PST by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: kattracks

Wanna bet there's a whooooole lot more to the story.

Some people just LOOK like they could be a problem, and you can be sure this guy did not cooperate at all and most likely made a scene before he was cuffed.


28 posted on 11/13/2004 11:16:12 AM PST by digger48
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To: kattracks
Since I was a child I am familiar with the Communists' mantra the we would sell them the rope with which to hang us. This was meant metaphorically and actually.

What an irony that now we are willing not to sell the rope, but to give it away, and to go through all sorts of Politically Correct mental, logic and common sense gymnastics to justify it.

The negatives of the ACLU (originally created to defend Communists) far outweight their accidental "positives".

29 posted on 11/13/2004 11:17:44 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: kattracks

WHY DO GOVERNMENTS EVEN BOTHER TO REPLY TO THESE STUPID ACLU LAWSUITS? LET THEM WIN A JUDGEMENT AND COLLECT OR ENFORCE ON IT AGAINST LOGAN AIRPORT...GOOD LUCK!


30 posted on 11/13/2004 11:24:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: JustAnotherOkie
Since the election has ended the ACLU has been grabbing a lot of headlines. I appears the have started getting a lot of funding.

Reminds me of what was going on in 2001, before 911. Hillary was gearing up then, too. The ACLU will be a big part of it.

31 posted on 11/13/2004 11:44:42 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: eno_
The question you should be asking is "Why?" It didn'y used to be that way. IDs didn't stop 9/11. People give their lives for freedom.

The unalienable right to board an airplane that is not yours?

32 posted on 11/13/2004 11:48:53 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: kattracks
Downing says he was making a telephone call when airport officials stopped him and "demanded that he produce some identification," according to an ACLU press release.

Downing declined to give his information and was arrested on the spot. He was released a short time later, however, after producing identification along with his travel documents. No charges were filed.

When security personnel in our post-9/11 airports make a simple and unobtrusive request like producing identification, it seems to me that an obstinate refusal is either based in lawsuit-bating or actual participation in illegal activities. Either way, the authorities must act on behalf of our security, rather than fear of a frivolous lawsuit.

33 posted on 11/13/2004 11:55:35 AM PST by Ryan Spock
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To: FreeReign

No, of course, not.

You are setting up a straw man.

I should be free to fly No-towelheads/RKBA Air if I want to.

YOU can continue to fly NannyAir.

Instead, the Government Nanny wants to give you the anal probe uniformly, just so nobody gets the idea they are free or anything.


34 posted on 11/13/2004 12:04:30 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Ryan Spock

Mmmmmm tasty jackboots! Lick! Lick!

If you tell a cop to stick it, you MUST be up to no good.

After all, the cops are supreme in their rights over yours.


35 posted on 11/13/2004 12:06:13 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: leadpencil1
Maybe we all should sue the ACLU for aiding and abetting terrorism in the time of war.

Are they *ever* on the correct side of anything?

36 posted on 11/13/2004 12:06:47 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: kattracks

Can't believe some of the ex-republican politicians that have joined this organization.


37 posted on 11/13/2004 12:25:23 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: eno_
I should be free to fly No-towelheads/RKBA Air if I want to. YOU can continue to fly NannyAir.

So then, you should also be free to fly "towelhead" air without interference from the feds?

38 posted on 11/13/2004 12:26:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: MissAmericanPie
Can't believe some of the ex-republican politicians that have joined this organization.

I agree with you MissPie. Barr and Armey are two.

39 posted on 11/13/2004 12:28:52 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

So who would you rather stand with?

Bob Dole?

or Bob Barr and Dick Armey?

The latter two are worth 100 Bob Doles.


40 posted on 11/13/2004 12:46:47 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: eno_
So who would you rather stand with? Bob Dole? or Bob Barr and Dick Armey? The latter two are worth 100 Bob Doles.

Nowadays, Bob Barr and Dick Armey apparently stand with the left infested ACLU. I assign that a negative worth.

41 posted on 11/13/2004 12:56:14 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
I should be free to fly No-towelheads/RKBA Air if I want to. YOU can continue to fly NannyAir.

So then, you should also be free to fly "towelhead" air without interference from the feds?

The question remains unanswered by you(See Bold).

42 posted on 11/13/2004 12:57:56 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: eno_
I should be free to fly No-towelheads/RKBA Air if I want to. YOU can continue to fly NannyAir.

So then, you should also be free to fly "towelhead" air without interference from the feds?

The question remains unanswered by you(See Bold).

43 posted on 11/13/2004 12:58:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Sure, YOU should have that choice.

SUBMIT to teh JBTs, or SUBMIT it Islam, as you please.

As for me, I'd rather fly a free man.


44 posted on 11/13/2004 1:03:05 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: eno_

So, don't fly. Nobody gives a damn.


45 posted on 11/13/2004 1:08:54 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
That link is dead.


46 posted on 11/13/2004 1:21:41 PM PST by raybbr
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To: eno_
So then, you should also be free to fly "towelhead" air without interference from the feds?

Sure, YOU should have that choice.

You don't think that a "towelhead" air would be a risk to the defense of our country?

I do. Thus the feds. Because air travel has become a risk -- to those of us on the ground. I've got 3K dead neighbors to prove it.

47 posted on 11/13/2004 1:24:58 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Big Digger

He is an activist for the ACLU. He was probably causing a minor ruckus, just enough to get their attention, so they would stop him and ask him for ID. I bet he was yelling and screaming on the phone - just loud enough to be noticed - on purpose.


48 posted on 11/13/2004 1:25:31 PM PST by raybbr
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To: kattracks
Downing says he was making a telephone call when airport officials stopped him

Hmmm.....

I wonder what he was actually doing.

49 posted on 11/13/2004 1:28:19 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: kattracks
Not surprising. The ACLU came out and chose the terrorists over their patron foundations October 19, 2004.

Excerpt: The American Civil Liberties Union has rejected $1.15 million from the Ford and Rockefeller foundations, saying their effort to ensure that none of their money inadvertently underwrites terrorism or other unacceptable activities is a threat to civil liberties....
"Ford's grant agreement, which governs the use of the money it gives to more than 4,000 organizations it supports, says, "By signing this grant letter, you (the ACLU) agree that your organization will not promote or engage in violence, terrorism, bigotry or the destruction of any state, nor will it make subgrants to any entity that engages in these activities."
A.C.L.U. Rejects Foundation Grants Over Terror Language

50 posted on 11/13/2004 1:33:58 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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