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Gingrich Now Seeking a New Contract (with America)
The New York Sun ^ | 11/12/04 | LUIZA Ch. SAVAGE

Posted on 11/13/2004 1:05:45 PM PST by wagglebee

WASHINGTON - Newt Gingrich is preparing to unfurl a new Contract with America.

The last time he did so, the ideas catapulted Republicans to a majority in the House for the first time in a half century. Now the former House speaker is plotting a way to keep conservatives in power "for a generation or more." Yet it is Democrats who are being urged to look to him for inspiration as they contemplate their future in the minority.

"A 21st Century Contract with America" is the subject of a book scheduled for release in January.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; conservativism; contractwithamerica; gingrich; newtgingrich; reagan; republicanmajority; republicans
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The book is to be a blueprint for "Phase Four" of the conservative revolution. The first phase, he said, was Ronald Reagan's "defining" conservatism. The second phase was the original Contract with America a decade ago and the election triumph that "created the majority." The third phase is the George W. Bush presidency, which has "deepened and reaffirmed the majority." The fourth phase of the revolution is to build up the Republican majority.

I personally think that Newt is lousy in a leadership position, but does an incredible job getting the Republican base fired up.

1 posted on 11/13/2004 1:05:45 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

That's what I'm talkin bout.


2 posted on 11/13/2004 1:07:12 PM PST by Texas Eagle ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of what he was never reasoned into." Jonathan Swift)
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To: wagglebee

I think Newt and Cosby are on the same page about the the younger generation, particularly the minorities. They're the future of the country.

I watched Newt's GOPAC speech. He is calling it like it is.

I suggested they team up and get to work. It's the right time.

It would erode some of the, taken for granted base, that the Dem's drag out every 4 years.


3 posted on 11/13/2004 1:15:18 PM PST by capebuffalo
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To: Texas Eagle
While channel hopping this morning, I found a tape of Newt's speech to the GOPAC folks. He laid out the "4 phases" and some unique ideas regarding the failure of "outreach" and the future of "inclusion" as a strategy. In Illinois at least, it would help us to have a nationalized Repub strategy, common targets, common goals, etc. It would help us find local leadership that fits the national - dare I say - MANDATE. Newt is cool. I'd like to get him into Illinois and help clean house.
4 posted on 11/13/2004 1:15:20 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: wagglebee
Newt Gingrich is an opportunistic fraud. He squandered his leadership role in the past; displays irrational judgment under pressure; and is totally unfit to lead ANY sanctioned movement is direct support of the GOP.

And, I have just started on this subject !!
5 posted on 11/13/2004 1:16:57 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: wagglebee

"I personally think that Newt is lousy in a leadership position"
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Do you mean politically? I think he would be great policy wise. I thought his 1994 sweep and subsequent changes was a monumental achievement. I have a lot of admiration for him. The only time I haven't thought highly of him was one time when he appeared on the 'tavis smiley show' and started agreeing with Tavis's criticism of Republicans and talking like a democrat.

I read his first book and will buy this one too. I think he is a great American.


6 posted on 11/13/2004 1:17:22 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm)
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To: wagglebee

Newt is a visionary and much better as a Wizard of Oz type figure. He should never have been at the forefront of our movement.


7 posted on 11/13/2004 1:17:55 PM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: traviskicks

oh and I LOVED his speech against the state department:


http://www.neoperspectives.com/gingrich.htm


8 posted on 11/13/2004 1:19:00 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm)
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To: wagglebee

I'm certainly prepared to have a look at it. Newt was too shrill and negative to be a successful candidate for the presidency, but he certainly fired up the base, brought in the revolution, and prepared the way for the Bush presidency. It cost clinton almost $100 million in PR propaganda to demonize him, and in the end Newt helped out with some unfortunate compromises and behavior lapses.

But who knows, maybe he's back on track again. He deserves a listen.


9 posted on 11/13/2004 1:20:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

I enjoy Speaker Gingrich every time I see him appear to give his opinion on a subject usually to do with politics.

His ability to think in easily understood terms must come from his work teaching students, because he never bores, nor does he pontificate, but tells it like it is and when he is done, there is little to argue with.

I don't know how he was as an active politician, but I would say he has find his "home" as an author and communicator, and an expert in many things political when he passes his information along to the general public in that easy rhythm he adopts.

He is an easy "listen" and I look forward to reading his new advice to the government members.


10 posted on 11/13/2004 1:21:34 PM PST by imintrouble
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To: wagglebee
It's sad to see Newt grovel like this.
Everybody knows that the "third phase" was a complete denunciation of the conservative principles espoused in the much lauded "second phase".
11 posted on 11/13/2004 1:23:20 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: capebuffalo
I watched Newt's GOPAC speech. He is calling it like it is.

That was great, wasn't it??!

J.C. Watts was also brilliant.

12 posted on 11/13/2004 1:25:17 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: dk/coro
Newt Gingrich is an opportunistic fraud. He squandered his leadership role in the past; displays irrational judgment under pressure; and is totally unfit to lead ANY sanctioned movement is direct support of the GOP.

I guess it's true, Opinions really are like a*******.

13 posted on 11/13/2004 1:27:43 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: wagglebee

oh boy. I hope the republicans keep Newt's hands off the levers of power. I think the early '90's movement of the republicans happened at a grassroots level and swept upwards. Newt rode the wave and took too much credit for himself. He is an opportunist.


14 posted on 11/13/2004 1:30:23 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: traviskicks
No, I do not mean politically.

I think that Newt's tone is to abrasive to be in a "front-line" leadership position. Some people are good at that and others aren't, Newt is better behind the scenes. (For what it's worth, I think the 'Rats will eventually find out that Hitlery is the exact same way.) The Speaker of the House NEEDS to have a cordial or at least civil working relationship with the President, regardless of political differences. I think that Newt brought too much of his personal animosity toward Klintoon into the 1995 budget stand-off and it blew up in his face big time.

I think it's better to let Newt "lay the foundation" and advise behind the scenes. He should let someone else be the frontline leader.

15 posted on 11/13/2004 1:31:11 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: dk/coro
Newt Gingrich is an opportunistic fraud. He squandered his leadership role in the past; displays irrational judgment under pressure; and is totally unfit to lead ANY sanctioned movement is direct support of the GOP. And, I have just started on this subject !!

I've heard Republicans trashing the Contract With America which was one of the most inspiring and influential political documents/strategies of the 20th century, and they usually can't tell you why they are trashing it or Gingrich.

I think the media instructed a lot of negativity about Newt on to the masses because they considered him dangerous to liberalism.

16 posted on 11/13/2004 1:33:14 PM PST by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: wagglebee
This news has exciting possibilities of driving some of these lib fruitloops out of mourning and into the final stage of denial where they contemplate either suicide or a mass exodus to Canada & France. Wish I was a travel agent-business should be booming in the next few months.

Enjoy your Thankgiving liberals!

17 posted on 11/13/2004 1:35:09 PM PST by Larry381 (Our long national nightmare is over-Kerry lost.)
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To: wagglebee

Abolish the federal income tax!


18 posted on 11/13/2004 1:35:11 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: dk/coro

The Contract With America was a stroke of political genius. It culminated Newt's 15 year effort, from backbench bomb-throwing radical to architect of the GOP takeover of the Congress. Call Newt whatever you want. The facts speak for themselves. Conservatives have been in some pretty good hands over the last 25 years. It's not been a perfect endeavor, but Reagan, Limbaugh, Gingrich and Bush43 have advanced conservatism like no one else before them.


19 posted on 11/13/2004 1:35:11 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: wagglebee

Can't wait to get the book.

Newt is good.


20 posted on 11/13/2004 1:41:22 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kellynla

Abolish every department of the federal government that did not exist in 1789.


21 posted on 11/13/2004 1:41:51 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee
I love Newt with every fiber in my body...that said... I want to see more of the contract fulfilled. At least try balancing the budget. Please? And while I hate Rats with equal vigor, running the House like they did, makes Pubs look like them.
22 posted on 11/13/2004 1:42:31 PM PST by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: wagglebee


The President is doing a pretty good job with his 'contract'. Tax and social security reform, faith based initiatives. Unfortunately he let Ted Kennedy write the education bill.
I think one of the ways to 'build up' our majority is for the President to make his Opportunity Zones more prominent. I would love to see more African-Americans join the party. Jim


23 posted on 11/13/2004 1:51:28 PM PST by jimfrommaine
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To: wagglebee
I think that Newt's tone is to abrasive to be in a "front-line" leadership position. Some people are good at that and others aren't, Newt is better behind the scenes...

That's the way I see it- Newt was and is a superb tactician- I was present in the early nineties when he was working up to the Contract, and his moves were brilliant. Once in the forefront, however, he did not do well. Some of that was due to the MSM, which, while we knew it was biased, we were blissfully unaware of how pervasive that bias was. But I agree with you- he's best when working in the background and directing.

24 posted on 11/13/2004 1:55:08 PM PST by backhoe ("We met at Dawn- and destiny Prevailed...")
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To: backhoe

And I really think that the 'Rats will find out that they have the same problem with Hitlery.


25 posted on 11/13/2004 1:57:30 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee

What's that saying about pioneers being the ones with all the arrows in their backs?

I was a moderate republican until I heard Newt speak in 1994 about the conservative revolution. His speeches really inspired me and I've been a foot soldier ever since.


26 posted on 11/13/2004 2:05:16 PM PST by MNnice
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To: MNnice

Reagan did the same thing for many people. Newt, in my opinion, lacks the widespread "likability" of Reagan (or even Bill Clinton from what I've been told). Newt was simply unable to work effectively with the Democrats, people have said he took everything too personally.


27 posted on 11/13/2004 2:10:38 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: traviskicks
I thought his 1994 sweep and subsequent changes was a monumental achievement.

I don't think Newt brought about the 94 majorities but he sure saw them coming and got out in front of it. He is very intellegent man, and a lot of fun to watch on Fox.

28 posted on 11/13/2004 2:13:15 PM PST by Once-Ler (God Blessed America Again!)
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To: Jim_Curtis

The media knew the danger of Gingrich and mustered all resources to take him down.


29 posted on 11/13/2004 2:14:39 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: bikepacker67

Very funny! And, so true. I was trying to think of some response to what he said, and you, very concisely, summed it up.


30 posted on 11/13/2004 2:15:19 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has metastasized into a dangerous neurosis which threatens the nation's security)
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To: wagglebee

BTTT


31 posted on 11/13/2004 2:15:26 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: wagglebee

"I think it's better to let Newt "lay the foundation" and advise behind the scenes. He should let someone else be the frontline leader."
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You may be right about this. But I do think as someone previously mentioned, the 94 'coup' is one of the most significant changes in the political landscape in the 20th Century. To what degree Newt was personally responsible for it can be debated, but I do think he is not a 'status quo' type leader and those types of people are the ones that change history in meaningful ways. There is a quote that 'history is a smooth stubborn continuous thing, jerked only by the actions of impeteous men'.

I think it is possible that much of your belief that Newt was 'stubborn and confrontational' may lie in the media's portrayal of him. I think the average person has a negative perception of Newt becasue of media bias. Similar to how the Media portrays the 'neo-conservatives', Rumsfeld, Ashcroft etc...

A few years ago I actually started to believe that the worst the MSM portraryed someone, the more intelligent, brave, principled, and conservative they tended to be. So, I dunno... as of now I would support Newt in a public leadership position, but am open to the possibiltiy that he works best behinds the scene - which is what he is doing now. Especially in Health care.

I was disapointed by his support for this Medicaid monstrosity. He never made the reasons for his support clear (or at least the media didn't give much coverage too them). I think he gained political capital with the Bush admin for his support. But if he sacrificed prinicipal for political capital then he loooses my respect.


32 posted on 11/13/2004 2:18:17 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm)
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To: Willie Green

Last time I saw Newt, mr small government, mr free enterprise, had become a paid lobbyist for one of the groups advocating the medicare drug bill...Big government, No competition. A bombastic phony baloney.


33 posted on 11/13/2004 2:18:52 PM PST by CAPTAIN PHOTON
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To: MNnice
Same here, I listened to a few Newt speeches in the 90's and was sold on his ideas. Anyone bashing him has no idea what they are talking about. The Clintons put Newt on the top of the hit list and with the help of the media and a few PI's they got him. I didn't come around to the media bias until after election 2000, that's when I started to despise democrats and understood how bad I was hoodwinked by the MSM/DNC lies and propaganda. Worse than the lies the MSM told was the cover up of what what really going on in our government.

If you know a reasonable democrat just point them to Alamo Girls: Downside Legacy website and if they don't wake up to what the RATS did to this country in the 90's they are either America haters or flat out dimwits.
34 posted on 11/13/2004 2:21:10 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: traviskicks

I've met Newt and think he's a great guy. However, I've talked to a number of people who saw first-hand how he was when he was Speaker, he was unwilling to compromise and it caused a lot of havoc for all of the Republicans in Congress. The 1995 budget fiasco created the perfect media opportunity to boost Clinton's ratings and propel him to a second term.


35 posted on 11/13/2004 2:26:29 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee
think that Newt brought too much of his personal animosity toward Klintoon into the 1995 budget stand-off and it blew up in his face big time.

It blew up in *Newt's* face, yes, and sure Clinton was reelected (Bob Dole was no threat and we all knew it), impeachment won out but removal failed but the Republicans have maintained or extended their majority except for when that fraud Jimbo Jeffords turned traitor. In terms of domestic policy, Clinton was prohibited from doing any serious damage and, amazingly, there were even a few balanced budgets. Tragically, Clinton was not prevented from undermining our national security (9-11) even though Republicans harped about military cuts, intelligence cuts, over deployments, etc. endlessly.

Further, Bush won in 2000, defied tradition and inceased the majority in 2002, and won *huge* in 2004 despite the Democrat's best efforts. How have the Republicans been hurt in the past 10 years due to that budget stand-off? Thanks to the 1994 Republican sweep, the country was generally hurt by only things that the Executive controlled: national security, foreign policy. Something might be said, however, that Congressional oversight was lacking on intelligence especially since it was so concerned with impeachment.

Clinton was great at winning tactical victories for himself but he ultimately failed to do anything for his party. Now it looks like they're on the verge of moving further left (Howard Dean, Michael Moore).

36 posted on 11/13/2004 2:31:21 PM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: Drango
I want to see more of the contract fulfilled. At least try balancing the budget. Please?

AMEN!

37 posted on 11/13/2004 2:38:19 PM PST by newzjunkey (San Diego, Kleptocrasy by the Sea. -- VOID the Illegal Mayoral "Election")
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To: capebuffalo

I saw Newt's GOPAC speech as well. I thought it was excellent. Every time I hear him speak, he comes across as very knowledgeable, historically rooted due to his education, and highly visionary. He might not have been the greatest tactician when he was in office, but he has always been, and continues to be, one of the greatest Repub thought leaders.


38 posted on 11/13/2004 2:46:29 PM PST by MCH
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To: WildTurkey
The media knew the danger of Gingrich and mustered all resources to take him down.

The Clinton's and the media waited until after the elections of 94 to go after Newt. The Clintons wanted a bogeyman and they got one. Then they killed off the '94 revolution and they go reelected in '96.

39 posted on 11/13/2004 2:47:35 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: wagglebee; cantfindagoodscreenname

IIRC, Gingrich didn't honor his "contract" with his second wife.

Has he done anything about that, as far as you know? Or are we supposed to do like Clinton's enablers did? "It's his personal life, character doesn't count, he did good work for us"?

Dan


40 posted on 11/13/2004 2:50:29 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: capebuffalo

Saw the GOPAC speech. Newt is awesome.


41 posted on 11/13/2004 2:51:02 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: BibChr

No he just divorced his wife and paid her off.


42 posted on 11/13/2004 2:59:12 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only think Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee

I want Newt back in government where he belongs.


43 posted on 11/13/2004 3:08:43 PM PST by montag813
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To: wagglebee

I agree. Newt's a good man, and he can do a lot for us in the position he is in now.


44 posted on 11/13/2004 3:20:12 PM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: dk/coro

Piss off.

Newt's not perfect as a legislator, but he's a brilliant visionary.

And-he nailed the election on the head this past summer. He pretty much called it back in August.


45 posted on 11/13/2004 3:23:16 PM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: wagglebee

After cheating on her. Ugh. So we're just supposed to "move on," let him advise the nation in "family values." Dang, the Donks must laugh at us. I hate when they have a valid reason.

Dan


46 posted on 11/13/2004 3:26:57 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wagglebee

OK!


47 posted on 11/13/2004 3:26:58 PM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: wagglebee
Will there be a clause against adultery with the office help?
48 posted on 11/13/2004 3:27:03 PM PST by Fatalis (John Kyl in 2008)
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To: BibChr

This is one of the reasons I don't want Newt back in office. However, the man's brilliant and a good behind-the-scenes guy. Use him for what he's good for. Marital morality isn't one of them. He's writing a book, not running for President for Pete's sake!


49 posted on 11/13/2004 3:30:04 PM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: nmh
I can't wait to get his next civil war novel. After reading Gettysburg and Grant Comes East I'm dying to find out who wins the Civel War.
50 posted on 11/13/2004 3:39:21 PM PST by Tail Gunner John
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