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Islam versus Holland- Red Cresent Rising?
various FR links | 11-13-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 11/13/2004 4:29:55 PM PST by backhoe

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 Netherlands mulling anti-terror laws
 Portuguese Police Deport Dutch Islamic Radicals

51 posted on 11/15/2004 12:18:43 PM PST by backhoe ("We met at Dawn- and destiny Prevailed...")
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 Tolerance Harder to Come By in Netherlands
 Dutch religious violence alarms Germany
 Dutch raid 'terror' camps
 Theodore Dalrymple: Why Theo Van Gogh Was Murdered
 Journalistic Enabler
 
 Education by Murder  It's time for the rest of the world to recognize Islam for what it really is: the enemy.
 

52 posted on 11/16/2004 3:48:55 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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How did the Netherlands let this mess happen??...There will be street fighting soon. This is a good example of what happens when Liberalism runs amok.....


53 posted on 11/16/2004 3:50:44 AM PST by Route101
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How did the Netherlands let this mess happen?

Short answer? Too much "tolerance, liberalism, and multiculturalism."

Longer answer? I'm about 1/3rd Dutch... and real easy to get along with, unless you push a little too far. Then it's Berserker Time.

We'll see!

54 posted on 11/16/2004 3:56:18 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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 [Theo van Gogh and] "Education By Murder" in Holland
 

55 posted on 11/16/2004 11:51:57 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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MORAL BREAKDOWN HAS LEFT HOLLAND OPEN TO ISLAMIC TAKEOVER
Schroeder calls on Muslims to better integrate in Germany -- First the Netherlands, then Spain, now Germany.
 (Milwaukee) Islamic Center sets first open house
 Death threats force controversial Dutch MP underground  I had thought that Europe had about another 20 years or so before the "counterrevolution" would begin. If the Dutch are this fed up, one shudders at what the Germans will do once the breaking point is reached there.
 Dutch member of parliament calls for five-year halt of non-Western immigration  And here is the rest of the story.

56 posted on 11/20/2004 2:16:24 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: jb6; backhoe
Today's tolerant dutch have the potential of turning very savage. Remember, muslims are 1/16th their population.

I was surprised to hear this statistic because I've read so many places that Muslims keep a very low profile until they reach what they regard as critical mass--about 20% or 1/5 IIRC.

Looks to me like a few somebodies jumped the gun so to speak, and thank God they did. It sounded the alarm bell earlier than they may have intended.

OTOH from other accounts it sounds like they've all but taken over the big cities. Perhaps they have critical mass there and forgot all about the "red" areas.

I do hope the Dutch respond in time and in sufficient force to repel this invasion. I think it's too late for France, and Spain will have to get up off their bellies and stop groveling if they hope to stay Spain and not Andalusia.

57 posted on 11/20/2004 6:29:06 AM PST by Sal
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Wilders said he is not opposed to mainstream Islam but is concerned by studies saying 10 percent of the Dutch Muslim population -- or about 100,000 people -- support radical Islamic views.

Another interesting statistic from your "rest of the story" link. I wonder if Wilders is right that it's only 10%.

That would leave 90% of Dutch muslims who are not terrs. If so, one would expect them to start turning in the terrorists in their midst and to speak out against such criminals loudly and publically.

If they don't, a person could figure maybe a whole lot of them are terrorists even if only in sympathies.

58 posted on 11/20/2004 6:40:20 AM PST by Sal
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If they don't, a person could figure maybe a whole lot of them are terrorists even if only in sympathies.

After 9-11, I waited for the condemnation from "moderates..."

I found their silence damning, and I suspect it is no different in Holland.

59 posted on 11/20/2004 6:46:10 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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I wonder if Wilders is right that it's only 10%.

I suspect that it depends greatly on how one defines the term "radical islamic views".

Such as, would the destruction of Israel be a radical islamic view or a mainstream one?

60 posted on 11/20/2004 7:10:41 AM PST by Freebird Forever (Next time shoot the cameramen first.)
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 Ultra-Radical Muslims Draw Scrutiny
 
 Popular Dutch lawmaker urges halt to non-Western immigrants, shutting down radical mosques
 
 LEARNING LESSONS FROM THE DUTCH

61 posted on 11/20/2004 5:03:25 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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bump


62 posted on 11/20/2004 5:42:45 PM PST by Museum Twenty (Proud supporter of President George W. Bush)
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 EUROPE'S CIVIL WAR?

63 posted on 11/21/2004 6:23:30 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Defeating the woman-haters -- I saw Theo Van Gogh's video on this topic called "Submission", that got him butchered on a street in Amsterdam in broad daylight by a "suspected radical Islamist with alleged terrorist links"
64 posted on 01/18/2005 9:45:01 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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 Most Dutch see Muslims as a threat -- My friends there tell me Moslems there hate the Dutch and everything about them . They simply USE them and their beautiful country .They have totally hijacked Belgium these days .Belguim is a MOSLEM country , I was amazed when I visited last year .
 Germany to Deport Hundreds of Islamists - Magazine

65 posted on 01/22/2005 12:00:06 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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I was shocked that he was so serious about it, and with his clarity on the idea that the Islamists "hate American freedom."

Why would they hate us. After all, we cherish liberty, adore women, let our critics live, suffer gladly people who convert from one religion to another. Oh, that's right, they don't believe in that!

66 posted on 02/12/2005 1:21:44 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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Bookmarked.

IF THE MUSLIMS TRY TO DISPOSE OF US, WE MUST DISPOSE OF THEM!


67 posted on 02/12/2005 1:23:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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When they are on their last gasp, will then then cry "Uncle?".....and will we go spill American blood again, for the 3rd time in less than 100 years, on behalf of a stupid, ungrateful "old Europe?"

Forget it. Once they come after us, however, we will take care of them.

68 posted on 02/12/2005 1:25:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks, and I agree. I don't want their Medieval garbage culture imported into my fair country, or imposed on my women.


69 posted on 02/12/2005 5:01:31 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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70 posted on 03/17/2005 10:47:20 PM PST by nopardons
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Suspected Van Gogh killer "had help"

71 posted on 04/13/2005 12:28:13 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Undocumented Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Open letter warns of Blood & Revenge (Van Gogh Case)
-- "The question is do the people of the US realize that we have a similar problem and the Muslims organizations openly discuss destroying us."
Muslims know our laws better than we. At a zoning meeting last Monday, for the building of an Islamic center, the head of the Muslims told how they were kind loving people, then sat down and let his lawyer tell us all the laws that keep us from stopping them. We're being taken over little by little.

72 posted on 05/04/2005 1:56:35 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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So much to do so little time, congratulations and thanks to you backhoe.


73 posted on 05/04/2005 3:04:27 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Islam. Understand Evil. Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD link My Page.)
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74 posted on 05/04/2005 3:06:48 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Two Chechens held in Van Gogh murder inquiries (Van Gogh Murder Update

75 posted on 05/27/2005 4:23:01 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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 Murdering Islamist Terrorist Goes on Trial for Theo van Gogh Killing In Amsterdam

76 posted on 07/11/2005 3:11:13 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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The muslim idea of taking over now is to breed like roaches. It does fit their beliefs,

There needs to be a serious reduction in the muslim population.

77 posted on 07/11/2005 3:30:40 AM PDT by SledgeCS (Islam is the true path to be one with SATAN aka allah.....)
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 I feel no sympathy for you, killer tells van Gogh family -- Some spectators rose to their feet, visibly stunned by his comments. The confession and lack of remorse highlight the worst fears haunting mainstream Dutch society about the seemingly unbridgeable gap between them and some of the alienated Muslim youths growing up in the country.


78 posted on 07/13/2005 3:10:14 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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79 posted on 08/02/2005 3:50:16 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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 Dutch virtue of tolerance under strain -- Today, there are about 1.7 million "non-Western" immigrants or their children in the Netherlands, more than 10 percent of a population of 16.3 million. Close to one million are Muslims. 10% seems to be the "point of no return."
80 posted on 11/16/2005 1:51:53 PM PST by backhoe
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http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

Dutch Terrorists Convicted

Nine of the Islamic terrorists in the infamous “Hofstad group,” who plotted to murder filmmaker Theo Van Gogh and others, have been convicted in the Netherlandslink: 25 comments


81 posted on 03/10/2006 1:35:21 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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