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'Groundhog Day' in Iraq (WARNING: Reading article may cause IBS)
New York Times ^ | November 11, 2004 | Thomas L. Friedman

Posted on 11/13/2004 7:15:24 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker

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1 posted on 11/13/2004 7:15:24 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

This article appeared in the New York Times, our premier newspaper. But I gotta say, OC, as wonderful as the article is, I enjoyed your entry ten times more!!!


2 posted on 11/13/2004 7:21:10 PM PST by guitarist (commonsense)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker
This is actually the third war in Iraq.

1) Bush41 - Desert Storm

2) Bush43 - Cowboys vs. Iraq Army, Navy & Air Force

3) Bush43 - Cowboys vs. Islamists & Bathists

3 posted on 11/13/2004 7:21:31 PM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Does anyone think she looks like the Penguin in Batman Returns???


4 posted on 11/13/2004 7:23:01 PM PST by Grn_Lantern
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To: guitarist

Friedman has become nearly as shrill as his colleague, Maureen Dowd.


5 posted on 11/13/2004 7:25:41 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

1) Those construction workers he's so worried about are Halliburton workers. Thats their job, rebuild a city in a warzone.
2) We do have enough soldiers. Liberals think that brute force is necessary. They are still stuck in the mindset of the British redcoats fighting us. They thought walking in a line using brute force would do it, and guess what? WE WON! NOT THEM! hehe. Also, Rumsfeld wants to use technology and soldiers. That way, 1 soldier can do the work of 2 or 3, or whatever number.
3) What an idiot! We have a power struggle here between Republicans and Asses. We have different religions and races and everything, we have more differences here than over there. How do we do it? Mindset, something liberals think Arabs arent capable of.
4) If we write a GOOD constitution modeled like ours, then we shouldnt worry. Also, Saddam was "elected" and we didnt like him, so we got rid of him. If we dont like the result, we occupy a bit longer and remove their president.
5) Again, liberal elitists think two things: one is Arabs cant govern themselves, and two is the Muslims fighting us arent the normal Iraqi citizens. They are terrorists killing us and Iraqis. Iraqis may or may not like us, but they know we are helping them.
6) WHAT! Control borders?! Geeze, they want to ruin another country as well as ours?! typical liberal.


6 posted on 11/13/2004 7:28:05 PM PST by zahal724 (I own a lumber company? Want some wood?)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

This columnist wouldn't want to hear the answer that would be the solution to most of his questions: bring down holy hell on all the Sunni population. They only number about 5 million yet they are making our war effort look like Vietnam, a much bigger country.

There is a communal guilt shared by those 5 million. They either help, or pay the price. Our PC "war" that puts on on the defensive is a crime.


7 posted on 11/13/2004 7:30:08 PM PST by Elvis van Foster
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To: Grn_Lantern
Check out this link to another Helen Thomas thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1261949/posts?page=63#63

8 posted on 11/13/2004 7:37:12 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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9 posted on 11/13/2004 7:40:40 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Elvis van Foster

I agree 100%

Grab them by the balls and their hearts will follow

WE are talking about the survival of this nation and we need to BE FEARED not loved

Unfortunately I don't know if the Military is large enough or whether we can bear the$$$$$ cost Creeping socialism may have sapped our treasury too much already

I fear this establishing a democracy in Iraq and letting them run the country will not succeed unless the enemy is totally devasted like Germany and Japan in WWII


10 posted on 11/13/2004 7:48:07 PM PST by uncbob
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

IBS?


11 posted on 11/13/2004 7:54:11 PM PST by perfect stranger
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My guess is irritated bowl syndrome.


12 posted on 11/13/2004 7:58:24 PM PST by TBall
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

As much as I hate the NY Slimes, I stil wonder that once Fallujah is cleared of terrorists, how long will it stay cleared? Once we pull back and the rebuliding begins, will the terrorists move right back in?


13 posted on 11/13/2004 8:21:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Please, we can do without the photo.


14 posted on 11/13/2004 8:27:52 PM PST by 4NUQ8R
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So we kill them until they don't want to return. We did it to the Germans and Japanese. They got tired of dying.


15 posted on 11/13/2004 8:28:15 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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a fervent hope that victory in Falluja will start to tip Iraq in the right direction

Start to tip in the right direction? Why do these people have such disdain for our fighters?

Here is the mission: take control of Falluja. When it is done, why not let them report mission accomplished? It is good human resource management to say "thank you boys, job well done."


16 posted on 11/13/2004 8:30:50 PM PST by ragnarocker (psalm 68:24)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Question 7) Did you vote for John Kerry?
Question 8) Do you write for a Liberal newspaper?
Question 9) Do you have patience?


17 posted on 11/13/2004 8:38:45 PM PST by katdawg
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

YUCK!!!!!

18 posted on 11/13/2004 9:34:14 PM PST by punster
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

Now there's a picture. Helen Thomas...only a face that Janet Reno could love.


19 posted on 11/13/2004 11:27:42 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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"Can the Bush team mend fences with Iran?" - Did the Bush team take the American emabassy in Tehran by force and hold American citizens hostage? When are we going to make peace with Iran who did all of the above and does not think they did anything wrong? Never! At least as long as the mullahs plan to kill instead of practicing their religon in peace.


20 posted on 11/14/2004 4:32:51 AM PST by q_an_a
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