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On the trail of Kerry's failed dream
The Boston Globe ^ | November 14, 2004 | Nina J. Easton, Michael Kranish, Patrick Healy, Glen Johnson, Anne E. Kornblut, and Brian Mooney

Posted on 11/14/2004 1:08:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: konaice

Quote from the Article: "The campaign collectively underestimated the effect of the swift boats. It was a collective mistake," recalled Michael Whouley, a longtime Kerry operative. "I think the candidate was probably the most concerned about it. It pissed him off, people attacking his Vietnam service."

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I have never understood why he made such a big deal out of 4 months of service. Lots of guys put in 4 years, and even mud marines put in a whole year as the expected tour.


51 posted on 11/14/2004 2:08:23 AM PST by konaice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"to the many veterans still enraged over his 1971 assertions that fellow soldiers participated in mutilations, gang rapes, and the burning of villages...confessed that his accusations had been "a little bit over the top.""

Descriptions of mutilations, gang rapes and burning villages (pretty much brigandige) is a little over the top. Okay. Yet, the frat hazings at Abu Gharib were "atrocities"? This Leftist mindset is confusing...


52 posted on 11/14/2004 2:15:14 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mmmm, now that you mention it, ol' Teddy has been very quiet. The "journalists" responsible for this article are nothing more than Democratic Party hacks.

In a perfect world, the voters of MA would fire Kerry and Kennedy the next time they're up for reelection.


53 posted on 11/14/2004 2:16:45 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: huac
"The room was decorated with Parisian watercolors of ostriches and kittens..."

This is important... I don't know why, but it is...

Perhaps the authors wanted to show that even the Republicans love those Parisian arts...

54 posted on 11/14/2004 2:17:17 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kerry's campaign could compared to his state's "Big Dig" in that it was essentially a con job, was very expensive, was mostly cosmetic with little real value, was built of poor materials, took on water at every opportunity and will continue to be a drain/stain on the state long after it's done.


55 posted on 11/14/2004 2:19:37 AM PST by pt17
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"He is also adept at keeping secrets..."

Refusal to sign the form 180 to clarify his record was many things: duplicitous, dishonest, craven, cowardly. "Adept" he was not...


56 posted on 11/14/2004 2:24:57 AM PST by huac
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To: paudio

No, no, I fear that there is something far more sinister afoot. Perhaps it involves Rove and mind control...those Diebold voting machines...Parisian...Parisian is synonomous with French...Freemasons...chads...Ohio...Provisional...ballots....I'm...getting...dizzy


57 posted on 11/14/2004 2:30:01 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry's answer ricocheted around the political world. Faced with the revelation that almost all the prewar arguments for invading Iraq were wrong -- the existence of weapons of mass destruction, close links to Al Qaeda

WHAT WHAT WHAT???

There was a long list of reasons for invading Iraq, of which WMD and AQ ties were but but, as Bush argued from the get go.

Contrary to the Globe, we now know Iraq had closer ties with AQ then we believed when we invaded. No, Iraq almost certainly was not involved in 9/11, but that isn't the point...This whole distraction of there was no "collaborative relationship on 9/11" is bizaare.

And as for WMDs, we've foud a small number of them, but just as important as finding stockpiles, we've found that Hussein had maintained his WMD infrastructure and research programs. Why it matters, ultimately, if Hussein had stockpiles versus could have recreated his stockpiles in a few months is hard to fathom.
58 posted on 11/14/2004 2:32:33 AM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen so many outright lies in one article in a long time.


59 posted on 11/14/2004 2:34:33 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"The campaign collectively underestimated the effect of the swift boats. It was a collective mistake,"

I sure am glad that the Kerry "Collective" won't be taking over the WH next January.


60 posted on 11/14/2004 2:37:28 AM PST by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: Malleus Dei

You'd probably have to go to Antarctica to find a lower pollen count than at the Grand Canyon in August.


61 posted on 11/14/2004 2:38:56 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: swilhelm73; Malleus Dei; pt17

62 posted on 11/14/2004 2:40:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MARTIAL MONK
You'd probably have to go to Antarctica to find a lower pollen count than at the Grand Canyon in August.

Then it must have been the altitude......

63 posted on 11/14/2004 2:41:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: wildcatf4f3

Plus, Teddy made a royal ass of himself on election night when he was on CNN around 7:00pm, clearly drunk and high on the crooked exit poll numbers, stating this was Kerry's night, and Bush had been routed...


64 posted on 11/14/2004 2:47:01 AM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: huac
Refusal to sign the form 180 to clarify his record was many things: duplicitous, dishonest, craven, cowardly.

He can't ever sign it; his dishonorable discharge is in his files. The MSM wants to know just how many TANG meetings Bush went to, but will they pursue Kerry's Form 180 or his Mystery Discharge? Of course not, they're on his team.

Hey, See-BS! Show us that you aren't just the media arm of the Democratic Party and go chase down Kerry's discharge history.

65 posted on 11/14/2004 2:47:05 AM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats in a hurry.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"In the planning, proposed segments about Kerry's Senate record -- on the environment, on small business, on foreign policy --..."



"In his 20 years in the Senate, John Kerry authored a grand total of five bills that passed both the Senate and House and became law: Just How Many Bills Has Kerry ‘Passed?’ (Hat tip: Paul.)

* S.791: Authorizes $53 million over four years to provide grants to woman-owned small businesses. (1999)

* S.1206: Names a federal building in Waltham, Massachusetts after Frederick C. Murphy, who was killed in action during World War II and awarded (posthumously) the Medal of Honor. (1994)

* S.1636: A save-the-dolphins measure aiming“to improve the program to reduce the incidental taking of marine mammals during the course of commercial fishing operations.” (1994)

* S.1563: Funding the National Sea Grant College Program, which supports university-based research, public education, and other projects “to promote better understanding, conservation and use of America’s coastal resources.” (1991)

* S.423: Granting a visa and admission to the U.S. as a permanent resident to Kil Joon Yu Callahan. (1987)

He was also author of two bills that became law in modified form:

* H.R.1900 (S.300): Awarded a congressional gold medal to Jackie Robinson (posthumously), and called for a national day of recognition. (2003)

* H.R.1860 (S.856): Increased the maximum research grants for small businesses from $500,000 to $750,000 under the Small Business Technology Transfer Program. (2001)

... and co-authored four “joint resolutions” that are not technically “bills:”

* S.J.Res.158: To make the week of Oct. 22 — Oct. 28, 1989 “World Population Awareness Week.” (1989)

* S.J.Res.160: To renew “World Population Awareness Week” for 1991. (1991)

* S.J.Res.318: To make Nov. 13, 1992 “Vietnam Veterans Memorial 10th Anniversary Day.” (1992)

* S.J.Res.337: To make Sept. 18, 1992 “National POW/MIA Recognition Day.” (1992)

That’s it. This is what Kerry has to show for 20 years in the Senate."

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=13189_John_Kerrys_Sad_List_of_Achievements

In his defense, he cares about dolphins...


66 posted on 11/14/2004 2:47:26 AM PST by huac
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To: huac

Pretty darn thin.


67 posted on 11/14/2004 2:54:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One of the biggest mistakes !!! Other than running !!!
Excuses Excuses Excuses ..... Flipped flopped ;-)


68 posted on 11/14/2004 3:00:44 AM PST by Deetes
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To: Malleus Dei
Hey, buddy, are you daring to insinuate that CBS isn't a professional news organization? For your information, they took less than one week to fire that underling who dared interrupt the important broadcast of the important "CSI" episode to announce that some guy who was like the world's greatest terrorist or something died. I guess he killed some real people, but on "CSI" they had a case to solve that was , you know, important to the world, you know? The nerve of that peon, interrupting "CSI". Dammit, CBS is a serious important network, the Tiffany network, and they do serious, important stuff, like fire little people who make ...honest mistakes,... I guess. Wait a sec...well, it doesn't matter. I won't have you besmirching their credibility. They are a serious news makers...I mean agency, and they will eventually prove that someone... you know, Rove or...Cheney, maybe...The Priory of Zion...well, someone slipped Mr Rather those "alleged" forged documents and you know, maybe slipped something in his drink, because those weird sayings he uses about frogs with pockets and guns are kinda confusing...hey, what the hell...am I still posting on the Democratic Underground?
69 posted on 11/14/2004 3:05:17 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Dammit, think of the dolphins. THE DOLPHINS...


70 posted on 11/14/2004 3:07:20 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"His band of brothers stood on stage..."

"Curiously they also seem to overlook the fact that Kerry's crewmen are all now working for the Kerry campaign..."

http://www.poorschmuck.net/archives/008651.html


71 posted on 11/14/2004 3:15:46 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Kerry said he would "never hesitate to use force" and "never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security." "...


“I’m an internationalist,” Kerry told The Crimson in 1970. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9836


72 posted on 11/14/2004 3:19:16 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Only six lines of his acceptance speech were devoted to his 20 years in the Senate..."

And from another angle...
"The other party's nomination battle is still playing out. The candidates are an interesting group with diverse opinions - for tax cuts and against them, for NAFTA and against NAFTA, for the Patriot Act and against the Patriot Act, in favor of the liberation of Iraq and opposed to it.
"And that's just one senator from Massachusetts," Bush said
http://www.balloon-juice.com/archives/003730.html


73 posted on 11/14/2004 3:22:57 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think his hearing was damaged by blasts from Teresa......


74 posted on 11/14/2004 3:26:36 AM PST by Route101
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To: huac

Source

75 posted on 11/14/2004 3:27:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

""Unfit for Command" used mostly unsupported allegations to label Kerry a liar who didn't deserve some or all of his combat medals..."

Of course, these spurious allegations were summarily disproved when jfk signed form 180...


76 posted on 11/14/2004 3:27:32 AM PST by huac
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To: Route101
I wonder, how are things are going with the love birds?

Nah, I really don't care.


77 posted on 11/14/2004 3:30:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cutterjohnmhb
...the election won by a bit of pollen and a puff of wind

Maybe the song lyrics should be changed:
"The QUESTION my son is blowing in the wind,
the QUESTION is blowing in the wind!"

No, I don't think so, it was just another flip-flop.

78 posted on 11/14/2004 3:31:25 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"But this time, there was no prison scandal, or anything else, to swallow the swift boat veterans' crusade..."

or, more accurately: But this time, there was no prison scandal, or anything else, to distract the public from the truth...


79 posted on 11/14/2004 3:32:28 AM PST by huac
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To: huac

"It pissed him off, people attacking his Vietnam service."

I know what he means. He must have felt kinda like the million or so vets who he off handidly compared to "Jen-Jiss Khan's hordes". You know, the rape and mutilation stuff...just a "little over top"...


80 posted on 11/14/2004 3:37:08 AM PST by huac
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To: GeronL

And none of those books, if they hope at all to be taken seriously, can possibly be written without mentioning the SwiftVets - SWEET!


81 posted on 11/14/2004 3:38:14 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats now talk about reaching out more to Christians and all that - but there is no way Christians are going to vote for pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-atheist, anti-prayer liberals.


82 posted on 11/14/2004 3:39:20 AM PST by SeniorMoment
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...underestimated the effect of the swift boats... It pissed him off, people attacking his Vietnam service."

Another urinalist's slanted interpretation: "people" ???????
"people"?, these are by no means just "people", these are over 270 men who served with him or his unit.

83 posted on 11/14/2004 3:46:08 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"the White House wasn't about to let Kerry use faith to his advantage, and portrayed him as out of step with the Catholic Church..."

In all fairness, the Catholic Church also had an opinion in this matter:
SEN. JOHN KERRY “EXCOMMUNICATED,” ACCORDING TO VATICAN RESPONSE
http://www.defide.com/news.html


84 posted on 11/14/2004 3:57:01 AM PST by huac
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"attacking Kerry's record on issues of special interest to Catholics"...

I guess "attacking" is one way to phrase it...another might be "presenting facts, with corroborating evidence provided by THE VATICAN"


85 posted on 11/14/2004 4:04:27 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh flipping hell - will they not get over themselves: they've lost and it's their own bloody fault - they have no method by which they can connect with the majority of America, as was made crystal clear by the election - all they can depend on are the coastal and urban areas where Francophilia and minority politics combine substantially to put them over the top.

America's heart essentially beats on the right - until the Democrats understand that, they will continue their decline.

Regards, Ivan


86 posted on 11/14/2004 4:10:25 AM PST by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"by naming Vice President Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter to show "we're all God's children."

Nice spin Globe. Definately sounds better than: "I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian...", or Edwards'subtle as a flying mallet comment, "And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter". Helps deflect the fact that these slurs were part of a orchestrated campaign by Kerry-Edwards in order to attempt alienate Bush-Cheney supporters.


87 posted on 11/14/2004 4:16:35 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The only thing wrong with Kerry's hearing is, all he hears is himself. Or maybe it was Theresa yelling at him for being a loser.

Trivia: Did you know that the anagram for "John Kerry" is "horny jerk"
88 posted on 11/14/2004 4:21:27 AM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Kerry, whose hearing was damaged by gun blasts in Vietnam


89 posted on 11/14/2004 4:22:26 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"cold eyes, the stony mien...he places his hands on your shoulder...". The "Lurch" analogy never really caught me until just now...I can almost hear that guttural growl he used to do when he would put his hand on the shoulder of some poor, confused visitor to the Addam's estate ...


90 posted on 11/14/2004 4:33:48 AM PST by huac
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump


91 posted on 11/14/2004 4:42:54 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hmm-mm. The Teddy Kennedy link becomes very clear now. As
if he couldn't do it for himself, so he would "sponsor"
someone else. It goes way back, to state the obvious.


92 posted on 11/14/2004 4:54:02 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hi, CW:

I just finished the Newsweek Super-Duper-Tell-All about Kerry. I could have sworn that the author(s) mentioned that Kerry was suffering from "Walking Pneumonia" in August, 2004.


Jack.


93 posted on 11/14/2004 5:12:57 AM PST by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The senator explained to aides that part of the question had been lost in the wind; . . .

Only kerry could blame the WIND when he makes a mistake!

94 posted on 11/14/2004 5:17:19 AM PST by mombonn ( íViva Bush/Cheney! Dukakis and Kerry are the matching bookends of the Bush era.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"whose hearing was damaged by gun blasts in Vietnam"

Apparently,from this photo, it wasn't just his hearing that was damaged.This is 'coyote ugly' territory........fenway
95 posted on 11/14/2004 5:29:41 AM PST by fenway
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I actually read the entire article. One word for Kerry: Loser!


96 posted on 11/14/2004 5:40:58 AM PST by MoodyBlu (Still searching for the elusive tagline...)
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To: skaterboy
Took 6 to write this crap?

Mosh pit journalism. It is the Boston Globe after all.

The Globe had a hand in training Jayson Blair in the tradition of such plagiarists as Mike Barnicle and Patricia Smith.

97 posted on 11/14/2004 5:42:00 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

98 posted on 11/14/2004 5:47:15 AM PST by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: huac

Excellent point.

The selfishness of Kerry and his concern about himself is off the charts.


99 posted on 11/14/2004 5:48:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sweetliberty

These writers are looking for that pony too.


100 posted on 11/14/2004 5:48:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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